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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Worrying Increase in Transphobia

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PorcelinaV · 10/09/2023 04:01

https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/09/09/transphobia-uk-press-media-negative-coverage/

An increase in transphobic sentiment among the British public has been fuelled by hostile coverage of trans people from the right-wing press, argues data journalist Ell Folan....

Unfortunately, newspapers still have a great deal of influence on the public and political agenda in Britain, and nowhere is this more obvious than in how perceptions of trans rights have changed.

As recently as Feburary 2021, an absolute majority of British voters (51 per cent) agreed with the statement “a transgender woman is a woman”, including 6 in 10 women. Just 34 per cent disagreed. But after years of negative coverage from the press, those numbers have changed.

In April this year, only 33 per cent of voters agreed that trans women are women, with 47 per cent disagreeing....

It is clear that the media plays an important role in shaping public perceptions, and unless their negative coverage is corrected and refuted, public opinion will continue to worsen.

Transphobia is on the rise – and the press is to blame

An increase in public anti-trans sentiment has been fuelled by hostile coverage of trans issues by right-wing newspapers, argues Ell Folan.

https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/09/09/transphobia-uk-press-media-negative-coverage

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Orchidflower1 · 10/09/2023 06:14

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Tessisme · 10/09/2023 06:21

Trans women are trans women. Trans men are trans men. How, for the love of sweet holy Jeez, does that equate to denying their existence? I am genuinely fed up with this type of non sequitur argument.

Some day we will look back on all this denial of biology and wonder how the fuck the world was charmed by a magic spell.

Whatwouldscullydo · 10/09/2023 06:21

Trans people erase themselves, if there's no such thing as a woman or boys ajd girls then what even is transition?

Reality is the biggest terf going.

Likeafurchin · 10/09/2023 06:23

Actually I think there has been an increase in anti-trans sentiment in the last few years. I don't think you can blame the media though. Stonewall and other "pro-trans rights" groups have succeeded in convincing many that this is an ideology that shuns debate and tramples on women's rights and existing safeguarding protocols. I wonder if it's the only time when a rights' movement has damaged its own cause?

ChokkaQuokka · 10/09/2023 06:34

Ohthatsabitshit · 10/09/2023 04:58

I think that’s possible but I think more likely they think a transwoman is a biological female who believes they are a man. So when they say they think a transwoman are women they are asserting that biological females will always be female. So they are rejecting the idea that any “transition” takes place not affirming it.

Alas, the only way we could research this question is do a survey that has… uh … definitions. And that would be awkward.

(as an aside, I love your username)

Talltall · 10/09/2023 06:34

@AliciaLime

thats a deflection technique
not falling for it

dear me

Thatladdo · 10/09/2023 06:37

Facts dont care about feelings - Its this simple and clear.

TodayInahurry · 10/09/2023 06:43

The trans lobby groups are really unpleasant and bullying. I can never forget the hideous pictures of the brainwashed students shouting and bullying Professor Stock. Trans men are not women

Rightsraptor · 10/09/2023 06:46

People are becoming more informed now the gender bollix is getting more coverage in the media and that is why the numbers are shifting.

I once thought twaw because I thought it meant treating a tiny group of men socially as women. When I heard all the rubbish that they were women just the same as me, or even more so (cock & balls not withstanding) - I radically changed my position. The more hardline they become, the more hardline I become.

They, and transmen, remain the sex they were born as we all do. They are people with mental health problems or opportunists. Nothing more.

Clymene · 10/09/2023 06:49

I hate to repeat myself but i trot this out every time this comes up. During the GRA consultation, I went out out on the streets and spoke to lots of the general public. The vast majority didn't realise the term transwomen refers to biological men. They also didn't believe people can change sex.

It is not transphobic to know that people can't change sex. Facts are not transphobia.

Warburtons · 10/09/2023 06:52

@JaukiVexnoydi very well said

PuttingDownRoots · 10/09/2023 06:54

People don't like being told what to think. They don't mind that their cousin Stan prefers dresses and to be called Lily now... they do mind being told that their cousin is a woman in all senses of the word, will be changing in the open plan woman changing room at the swimming pool next to their teenage daughter, or discuss their rape at a support group meant for woman, or compete in sport against them.

Its TRAs fuelling transphobia sadly.

Wiccan · 10/09/2023 06:55

Oh great this shit again ! . Trans women are not women trans men are not men. And it's not bigoted to say so . It's not increased transphobia it is people simply not putting up with this fucked up ideology anymore and saying it out loud .

AliciaLime · 10/09/2023 06:56

Talltall · 10/09/2023 06:34

@AliciaLime

thats a deflection technique
not falling for it

dear me

You’re right that there’s a massive deflection tactic going on.

timetochangethering · 10/09/2023 06:56

PorcelinaV · 10/09/2023 04:12

I blame The Guardian for not doing enough to refute the Daily Mail.

Now we have a majority of people denying the existence of trans people.

What about painting this a different way:

Trans Women are Trans Women, and Women are women.

The trans movement in trying to push "Trans women are women" has done huge damage to the Trans movement.

Trying to label women with what amount to "nasty names" is counterproductive; Cis, Terf and other derogatory words are in no way kind and people see that.

Most people are hugely supportive of Trans;
Most people are happy to support the rights and protections of Trans women and Trans men;
however women are not prepared to lose rights and protections as part of that nor submit to name calling.

Women's rights and protections exist for a reason, in trying to dilute, denigrate and remove them the Trans movement has dealt itself a huge blow.

PronounssheRa · 10/09/2023 07:07

But after years of negative coverage from the press, those numbers have changed.In April this year, only 33 per cent of voters agreed that trans women are women, with 47 per cent disagreeing....

I think this is simply because people understand more. People are realising transwomen refers to males, not females who transition. People are becoming more aware that well over 90% of transwomen keep their penis. People are starting to realise that this isn't about the hayley croppers of this world anymore, but the isla brysons.

SecretShambles · 10/09/2023 07:08

I think people are beginning to see the trans activists making a lot of demands that can seem unfair, such as a big burly male being able to win a female sporting event, and that respect for the trans position is demanded often aggressively but not often returned to others who may have a different view.
In fact any different view is labelled 'transphobia ' without further exploration.

People are getting tired of this. It's not transphobic to disagree TWAW.

If it is, then yes that's why the increase. But as always the goalposts are changed by changing the definition of words first man and woman now transphobia itself.

SunnieShine · 10/09/2023 07:10

AliciaLime · 10/09/2023 05:00

Why is biological reality bigoted?

It's not. Pure and simple.

christinarossetti19 · 10/09/2023 07:10

Only Prick News -a newspaper - could lament the fact that, eh, newspapers influence the public and political opinion.

What on earth is their purpose if not that?

Froodwithatowel · 10/09/2023 07:12

So in this sense 'transphobia' is being loosely applied to mean a mix of 'non compliance' and 'other sides of the narrative being presented' and 'we've lost control of the press'. As opposed to 'the press put out our propaganda and never permit anything in print that isn't what we demand the public be made to think'. It is in fact a requirement to conceal evidence. Hence 'transphobia' also essentially meaning 'fighting the gaslighting'.

It gets weirder and weirder the more it escalates.

AuntieEsther · 10/09/2023 07:17

There is no 'increase in transphobia'
There is an increase in people noticing the ridiculous political agenda and harms to women, children and gender non conforming adults of both sexes and a commensurate increase in people pushing back against it.

Obviously trans people exist. They just aren't what they claim to be.

SunnieShine · 10/09/2023 07:19

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GotMooMilk · 10/09/2023 07:21

I am in no way anti trans people and feel strongly they should be welcome in society and I do feel confident they are/will be (we live in a very diverse city and with a massive LGBTQ+ population so we have lots of trans people!).
However as someone who works in women’s health and has worked with incredibly vulnerable woman who have been sexually abused I feel strongly there is a need for safe spaces for women and I don’t agree with changes that benefit a minority which cause potential harm to a majority. For example female changing rooms etc should be protected in my opinion. There should be a good, safe alternative for trans people but there needs to be recognition of the fact that women with a history of abuse can find a biological male very upsetting when they are in a vulnerable position.
I think the push to make woman a dirty word and remove the protections we have fought for is what causes the friction.

EasternStandard · 10/09/2023 07:21

Flat earthers probably felt similar each year as facts spread

Op you can’t really blame biological reality

LoobiJee · 10/09/2023 07:23

Talltall · 10/09/2023 06:34

@AliciaLime

thats a deflection technique
not falling for it

dear me

Asking “why is biological reality bigoted?” is a “deflection technique”?

How is it a deflection technique?

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