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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

KJK suing Australian Liberals for defamation

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fromorbit · 28/08/2023 10:51

UK women’s rights activist Kellie-Jay Keen has issued John Pesutto and his entire leadership team with defamation concerns notices
UK women’s rights activist Kellie-Jay Keen has issued John Pesutto’s entire Victorian Liberal leadership team with defamation concerns notices, giving them 28 days to apologise and pay compensation for making “grossly misconceived, wilfully vexatious, and wretchedly false” claims, or face federal court action.

In her legal letter sent to the Liberal leader, his deputy David Southwick, upper house leader Georgie Crozier and her deputy Matt Bach on Monday, Ms Keen claims their conduct has seen her become the target of “extreme hate, abuse, harassment, and stalking”, and culminated in her “being physically attacked” and “placed in life threatening danger” at a Let Women Speak rally in New Zealand.

Archive of full report from The Australian:
https://archive.is/lWNTN#selection-255.5-255.135

Brilliant move as it will really help Moira Deeming's case against her party. Also further reveals the crazy sexism going on in Australia.

NB Reminder Australian Liberals are actually politically somewhat like UK Tories.

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Hippyhippybake · 28/08/2023 12:24

I see they are persisting in labelling her as a “anti trans activist” rather than a “women’s rights activist” in the Australian press 😡

dimorphism · 28/08/2023 12:28

Winnading · 28/08/2023 12:02

She already is a man.
She along with others in 'man Friday' changed their passports and or driving licence to male aaaages ago.
Far as I know none have changed back.

Wait, what? So wikipedia, ABC and most news organisations who report on her are MISGENDERing her? Literal violence*!!

Why is it not a problem when someone of the female sex is misgendered but a massive great big problem if a big old man in a dress is misgendered? Ah yes, that'll be sex discrimination then.

*Not really obviously.

Helleofabore · 28/08/2023 12:31

NotBadConsidering · 28/08/2023 12:23

Amazing that the ABC reported on her suing for defamation and call her “anti-trans” while doing so.

Didn’t the ABC reply to complaints stating that they were very happy with the evidence and would continue to use that term?

At that point, I lost faith in the ABC.

DOBARDAN · 28/08/2023 12:39

Good luck Kellie, although you really shouldn't be needing luck, and thank you @BoreOfWhabylon for the YT link, Kellie made our point brilliantly throughout. It was good to hear her last spoken sentence, which brought it all home for sure.

ArabeIIaScott · 28/08/2023 12:45

Boiledbeetle · 28/08/2023 13:10

“Your conduct was so lacking in good faith and was so improper and unjustifiable, was in such contumelious disregard for the truth or our client’s reputation, and has so aggravated the harm our client has sustained, an award of damages commensurate with such aggravation and moral obloquy is warranted,” the lawyers state.

Goes off to see what the hell contumelious means...

(of behaviour) scornful and insulting; insolent.

Ooh nice!

BoreOfWhabylon · 28/08/2023 13:21

Word!
(as I believe the young folk say)

SinnerBoy · 28/08/2023 14:13

I really do hope that she wins her case and that a precedent is set, so that news organisations can't print such egregious lies about her and other women campaigners. They can't be allowed to carry on, publishing such manifestly biased rubbish.

BoreOfWhabylon · 28/08/2023 14:31

The so-called "evidence" for the politicians' claims against KJK (helpfully included in the archived doc) was clearly thrown together, probably by a SpAD/researcher. It's obvious that it was gleaned from the most cursory trawl of Wikipedia and TRA Twitter. No attempt to verify the accuracy or reliability of any of the claims.

It really is astonishing.

Helleofabore · 28/08/2023 14:36

I actually hope this goes to court. Because I would like all the fucked up accusations that have constantly been regurgitated here on these threads to be presented in court with the evidence noted on record to refute them.

Maybe it will then roll out to prevent them being posted on Wikipedia again, and we can finally stop having to defend the ludicrous fuckwittery. I expect that Pesutto should then resign, after all, Moira was expelled due to bringing the legal action against him which would not have been necessary if he and his team had done the work. It was they who brought the party into ’disrepute’ so to speak. It was his and his team’s own inadequate research that caused this issue to start with. I expect by the end of this that the slim lead he had will be gone.

BoreOfWhabylon · 28/08/2023 15:04

The document will be useful for when the usual fuckwits inevitably turn up on threads to inform us of KJK's nazism.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 28/08/2023 15:42

KJK never fails to entertain

so either the liberals can apologise or explain in court why they decided to slander a women’s rights activist

either way is going to be a lot of fun. I know KJK likes to fund her own legal action (out of the money that would otherwise be ‘funding her lifestyle’) but I’d happily garden for this one.

I do so enjoy watching bigots blinking in the bright lights of the courtroom

BlueMoe · 28/08/2023 15:43

Boiledbeetle · 28/08/2023 13:10

“Your conduct was so lacking in good faith and was so improper and unjustifiable, was in such contumelious disregard for the truth or our client’s reputation, and has so aggravated the harm our client has sustained, an award of damages commensurate with such aggravation and moral obloquy is warranted,” the lawyers state.

Goes off to see what the hell contumelious means...

(of behaviour) scornful and insulting; insolent.

Ooh nice!

How wonderful it would be to play scrabble against that lawyer.

BashCandicoot · 28/08/2023 15:46

BoreOfWhabylon · 28/08/2023 14:31

The so-called "evidence" for the politicians' claims against KJK (helpfully included in the archived doc) was clearly thrown together, probably by a SpAD/researcher. It's obvious that it was gleaned from the most cursory trawl of Wikipedia and TRA Twitter. No attempt to verify the accuracy or reliability of any of the claims.

It really is astonishing.

I can’t read that last word without hearing Helen Staniland - “ass-TON-ishing!”

IcakethereforeIam · 28/08/2023 15:48

If anyone, like me, couldn't get the op's link to work, try this one

https://archive.ph/lWNTN

though I make no promises 😊 (it's a link to The Australian article, which seems pretty fair imo).

StoatofDisarray · 28/08/2023 16:08

BoreOfWhabylon · 28/08/2023 11:44

That letter is blistering! Also factual.
Well done KJK

Where do a the letter?!

BonfireLady · 28/08/2023 16:15

Winnading · 28/08/2023 12:02

She already is a man.
She along with others in 'man Friday' changed their passports and or driving licence to male aaaages ago.
Far as I know none have changed back.

Amazing! I had heard of (and adnired) the Man Friday "movement" but not about the passports. Tempting...

RealityFan · 28/08/2023 16:18

Despite KJK getting the lions share of attention here, imho the bigger sin was perpetrated against Moira Deeming.

She's been shunned by her whole party.
Literally called a "terrorist" by so-called colleague after so-called colleague.

If words are violence, then being called a terrorist is demonstrably worse than hackneyed phases like Nazi, fascist, extremist.

Because, we know real terrorists, don't we?

Brevik in Norway, the Manchester Arena bomber, IRA bombers in the 70s and 80s, Abu Hamza etc.

Her so-called colleagues referred to her in terms that we'd reserve for these scum.

KJK still lives in a country where free speech remains a thing. Moira Deeming? No such luck.

I would feel sick to my stomach if those I'd worked with turned against me like the pack of cowards they proved to be.

Villagetoraiseachild · 28/08/2023 16:42

She never loses.

BoreOfWhabylon · 28/08/2023 16:43

StoatofDisarray · 28/08/2023 16:08

Where do a the letter?!

Large extracts are in the archived piece in the post above yours.

BillaBongGirl · 28/08/2023 22:49

KJKs not wholly refuting the allegations though?

her letter says

  1. video with neo nazi #1- I didn’t know he was a neo nazi
  2. selfie with neo nazi #2- I didn’t know he was a neo nazi either
  3. using a Nazi Barbie profile picture- I knew it was a Nazi Barbie but it was just a long running “sod you” joke
  4. posting a rainbow flag with a Nazi swastika- just another Nazi joke of mine while in joke Nazi Barbie profile

Is that the sum of her defence? That it all happened but here’s my excuse?
Bit disappointing. People have literally gone to prison for online Nazi jokes, I’m shocked she has admitted to the Nazi Barbie profile thing. I was sure that was fake.

BoreOfWhabylon · 28/08/2023 23:26

Waltz off, Matilda.

RhannionKPSS · 29/08/2023 00:14

Excellent news! Hope she wins and I’m happy to help with any gardening needed

dcbc1234 · 29/08/2023 00:45

'NB Reminder Australian Liberals are actually politically somewhat like UK Tories.'
Yes Australian Liberal party members (=Conservatives) should know better and whatever happened to free speech?

OneMorePlant · 29/08/2023 01:11

Great news. I wish her all the luck!