Roisin Murphy

[WarriorN]

Is it true? Did did say this?

"Puberty blockers ARE FUCKED! Big pharma laughing all the way to the bank!"

I'd suggest that we've invested a lot of our time and energy into doing what we've done here. We're not finished unfortunately but reading back over the conversation, we've managed to string together 25 pages of what have to be recognised as vibrant ideas, clearly expressed - that goes for everyone.

Go on fb or other places where people discuss this issue and there's - frankly - nowhere near this depth. I'm not casting aspersions there but I do believe that when your Suzanne Moores and Jo Bartosches write about this, they know they're not just pi55ing in the wind.

I'm grateful to Mumsnet for not closing us down because we haven't been mincing our words.

I'm hugely happy the album seems to super popular. This suggests to me that people, even those on the trans ally side, haven't judged her, other than being an artist to spend money on. Only a hardcore have dumped her, but their numbers are small, in inverse proportion to the noise they produce online.

This reminds me a little of JKR. As she negotiated those early firestorms, the TRAs threatened to ruin her HP legacy, warning/ordering young people especially to boycott Hogwarts stuff, the video game. And we were even told Strike should be struck down.

Guess what? She's as popular as ever, amongst the young, and older aficionados.

Maybe Róisín will face down her wall of flack and succeed. Because the hate isn't working so far.

Doesn't let off the record label, gig organisers, and professional Twitter haters.

Another sign these bastards will not grind us down. I'm adamant we're on the cusp of a real sea change in the narrative.

@RealityFan

If I was a record-label executive, I'd describe her as an acquired taste, a 'marmite' artiste. The campaigners have been trying to leverage that, in a 'good riddance' kind of a way. It woudn't surprise me, either, if there's been female performers who've thought 'I can cash in on this hatred and play to it !' Naming no names, cobber.

Let's have a tune, before we end up getting sued..

Moving swiftly on..

Noone should ever do that to an artist. If you don't agree with their politics, well, that's life. And her statement was as much political as it was child safety.

Anyone trying to spin her statement as shocking Covid conspiracy or 5G craziness, should check her statement against what pediatricians all over Europe are saying.

Of course Ninja Tune are American, and thus they're right in hock to the blue haired activists and the new US atheistic neo religion.

Maybe Róisín should pay off her dues to them and go with a UK based label that will allow nuance.

I would, I'd spit on their contract.

Ninja Tune are British, based in London. Set up by the two guys in Coldcut. Just saying.

Well, it takes all sorts.

https://womansplaceuk.org/2023/09/05/solidarity-with-roisin-murphy/

These ‘activists’ are all about the optics, wanting to ensure that they’re always treated as the goodies, on the side of tolerance, etc.

But the reality on the ground is violence against women - punch a ‘TERF’ , etc. There’s a double-standard at play, there.

Its time to dismantle their ideology, starting with the idea that a woman who steps out of line is fair game.

More support here

https://karadansky.substack.com/p/the-saga-of-roisin-murphy/comments#comment-39503886

The Guardian are in torment.

They award her album 5 stars but Laura Snape's spends the whole review telling readers how dreadful Murphy is

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/sep/07/roisin-murphy-hit-parade-review

The “ugly stain” is not what this reviewer thinks it is.

Oh Laura, quit with the flagellation. How embarrassing that you can’t say you enjoyed the album without lamenting that it’s now “tainted”. Tainted because the artist privately expressed concerns about puberty blockers harming vulnerable children. For crying out loud - MURPHY IS NOT THE BADDIE HERE.

I’m sure, Laura, that all the other artists you admire in the music biz are shining, perfect examples of humanity who have never put a foot wrong in their lives. Sure, they might have had underage sex, or been violent, drunken, misogynistic assholes, but as long as they’ve never done a wrongthink, it’s all peachy.

Just finished reading that review.

Oh the absolute pearl clutching horror for Snape that there's a gender non believer who's artistic output she loves - what to do? Oh the horror! The disappointment!

If you don't buy every single last one of the bien pensant beliefs then you might as well be, indeed you probably are, a nazifascistterfbigot and are no longer welcome in the polite & delicate company of the gentry Left.

And as for this:

"In the last two weeks, the sincerity of that expression has become compromised for many fans. A screenshot of Murphy decrying puberty blockers as “big pharma laughing all the way to the bank”, describing transgender children as “mixed-up kids” and characterising “Terf” as a misogynist slur in a Facebook comment was circulated online. (A study showed that young trans people who can access puberty blockers experience a decrease in depression and a 73% reduction in the risk of suicide; they have also long been used to stall precocious puberty in cisgender children. As of June, the NHS has paused their availability to young people outside of exceptional circumstances and for research studies.)

"Transgender children?", "cisgender children"???? Puberty blockers are fine, nothing to see here? Pathetic.

Snape isn't fit to lick Roisin Murphy's shiny platform boots.

Laura Snipe.

Why did she choose to cite an American study, rather than the recent one by the Tavistock which showed no mental health benefits?

Young people experienced little change in psychological functioning across the study. We found no differences between baseline and later outcomes for overall psychological distress as rated by parents and young people, nor for self-harm. Outcomes that were not formally tested also showed little change.

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0243894

Obviously we all know the answer to this question.

I award Ms Snape zero stars.

Right, heading off to the album launch gig in Kingston. Will report back later.

@RevUlsion

Do not take any crap from Outraged of Hampstead.

The paragraph I quoted is just "truthiness" bullshit for the genderist narrative.

As a Guardian reader since my younger days I will never not be beyond disappointed at what they have become.

Do you think she was scared of the ire of the tras, but couldn't bring herself to be less than honest about the album? So she compromised by giving an honest five stars leavened with a 'look guys I'm on your side, really! Don't hurt me!'

And I thought that pubmed had been comprehensively discredited.

Or, indeed, fling it back.

PubMed itself cannot be "discredited" It is just a searchable repository for articles which have been published in medical journals etc.

@IcakethereforeIam

Their ideology amounts to a religion, so she's like a 1950's nun, feeling guilty about 'having impure thoughts' about Cliff Richard. Coming on the back of the last week-or-so, that's comical.