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Comedy event cancelled at the Fringe because of Glinner?

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 15/08/2023 17:29

I hadn't seen anything about this on X/Twitter previously, but apparently some activists have been putting pressure on the venue and they've cancelled an upcoming event called Comedy Unleashed because one of the comedians is Graham Linehan. How utterly pathetic. https://twitter.com/UnleashedComedy/status/1691476377793409024?s=20 Seems to be organised by/associated with Andrew Doyle, aka Titania McGrath.

https://twitter.com/UnleashedComedy/status/1691476377793409024?s=20

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ScribblingPixie · 17/08/2023 10:23

Horticulturer · 17/08/2023 10:22

Why would it make her look foolish, both pronunciations are correct.

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Horticulturer · 17/08/2023 10:23

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/08/2023 10:16

I have literally never heard anyone else pronounce it that way, in nearly 2 decades. But you do you.

It's well know if you're a fan of the show, I'm sure this has been covered in a DVD extra.

NicCageisnotNickCave · 17/08/2023 10:23

IcakethereforeIam · 17/08/2023 10:16

Thanks for posting that Derrick Jensen YouTube. I've been wracking my brain trying to remember his name. He lays it out very clearly, the paedophilia and paedophilic sympathies of the central figures of transgenderism.

And the childish petulance of those who don't want to hear the truth of it.

The denial edifice would crumble to dust in a court room - the historical evidence is enormous.

Once you remove the strawman of ‘he said all trans people are Paedos’ and look at what GL was actually referring to, well, there really are a heck of a lot of paedos in pack.

Queering the boundaries = arguing that children can consent.

Horticulturer · 17/08/2023 10:24

ScribblingPixie · 17/08/2023 10:23

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PlanetJanette · 17/08/2023 10:24

NicCageisnotNickCave · 17/08/2023 10:03

Depends on who you consider the ‘central trans figures’ to be.

The last 70 years of Queer Theory and Sexology are riddled with noncery.

If your idea of ‘central trans figures’ are contemporary YouTubers then yes, I can see why you would think GL’s assertion is untrue. That would be a very shallow understanding of Transgenderism though.

Well based on that Talk TV interview, GL's threshold seems to be Amy Challoner's father.

So GL's threshold for being a 'central trans figure' seems to be being a father of a trans person who has had a fairly minor role in a minor political party, has been part of an advisory group for Stonewall and has knocked about student LGBT+ circles for a bit.

That is a pretty low threshold for someone to be a 'central trans figure'. So if 'nearly all central trans figures' are paedophiles, by definition, that must include 'nearly everyone' more central than David Challoner.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 17/08/2023 10:29

donnawinters · 17/08/2023 10:19

I bought a ticket so I will find out the venue this afternoon

Ok creepy internet random

IcakethereforeIam · 17/08/2023 10:29

So that's your evidence? A carcrash 'interview' made some time after the statement that you're referencing.

Well, I'm convinced. Lock him up.

Datun · 17/08/2023 10:32

PlanetJanette · 17/08/2023 10:24

Well based on that Talk TV interview, GL's threshold seems to be Amy Challoner's father.

So GL's threshold for being a 'central trans figure' seems to be being a father of a trans person who has had a fairly minor role in a minor political party, has been part of an advisory group for Stonewall and has knocked about student LGBT+ circles for a bit.

That is a pretty low threshold for someone to be a 'central trans figure'. So if 'nearly all central trans figures' are paedophiles, by definition, that must include 'nearly everyone' more central than David Challoner.

Father of a transperson who married a self confessed paedophile...

NicCageisnotNickCave · 17/08/2023 10:34

PlanetJanette · 17/08/2023 10:24

Well based on that Talk TV interview, GL's threshold seems to be Amy Challoner's father.

So GL's threshold for being a 'central trans figure' seems to be being a father of a trans person who has had a fairly minor role in a minor political party, has been part of an advisory group for Stonewall and has knocked about student LGBT+ circles for a bit.

That is a pretty low threshold for someone to be a 'central trans figure'. So if 'nearly all central trans figures' are paedophiles, by definition, that must include 'nearly everyone' more central than David Challoner.

The Challoner story is horrific. I’m not surprised GL went for that one when thinking on the hoof (especially as it’s all a matter of public record) but there are loads of examples he could’ve used.
Shame Talk TV removed the segment - hopefully they will put it back once they’ve checked GL’s assertion through legal, because it’s all true.

I do hope it goes to court - will be far more time to talk about it than on short tv clip.

There are so many sex offenders and sex offender apologists involved the Queer Theory/Transgenderism movement that it’s going to be a VERY BIG BUNDLE!

From Foucault all the way to Dr Breslow.

Tribunal Tweets will need to sort out a shift rota.

Helleofabore · 17/08/2023 10:34

PlanetJanette · 17/08/2023 10:24

Well based on that Talk TV interview, GL's threshold seems to be Amy Challoner's father.

So GL's threshold for being a 'central trans figure' seems to be being a father of a trans person who has had a fairly minor role in a minor political party, has been part of an advisory group for Stonewall and has knocked about student LGBT+ circles for a bit.

That is a pretty low threshold for someone to be a 'central trans figure'. So if 'nearly all central trans figures' are paedophiles, by definition, that must include 'nearly everyone' more central than David Challoner.

You think that Challenor had a 'minor role'? Being instrumental in setting policy in both the Green Party and writing Stonewall guidance.

OK... Shall we continue then? If not Challenor, then Tatchell.

J Fae has been campaigning for the legalisation of extreme porn and the reduction in the age of consent for porn actors and is also been a 'spokesperson' for Stonewall while being used for media panels for a long time.

Tatchell and Fae are still considered media representatives. Why?

Shall we move on to the trustee for Mermaids? Breslow wasn't it?

Really, do you really want us to start bringing out all the names and their documented opinions?

Graham did not say 'ALL' and no one says all despite the constant dishonesty of extreme trans activists who lie about people saying 'all.'

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/08/2023 10:36

Challenor was running for deputy leader of the Greens at the time Dad was on trial for torture and rape of a ten year old girl, while dressed as a little girl himself. AC then joined the Lib Dems and had to leave them as well later on.

NicCageisnotNickCave · 17/08/2023 10:38

Aimee Challoner caused a global meltdown on Reddit:

https://metro.co.uk/2021/03/25/reddit-protests-who-is-former-admin-aimee-challener-14303188/amp/

Weird that someone who was touted as a future leader of the Greens is suddenly a nobody. Gotta sweep all the paedo-connections under the pink and blue rug, I suppose?

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/12/green-party-failed-to-properly-investigate-child-abuser-report

https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/green-party-deputy-leader-challenor-15082023.amp

Comedy event cancelled at the Fringe because of Glinner?
Helleofabore · 17/08/2023 10:40

But eresh Challenor the son was just a 'minor' person in the Green Party. Nothing to see here at all....

Gosh, how amazing to see such minimising of a person who was instrumental in setting some of the policies in the Green Party and in other organisations. Nothing to see. Marrying a person with known paedophilic tendencies before marriage is nothing to do with that person or their choices. Nothing to see.

Wasn't Challenor and their partner also responsible for reddit moderation and the policies there too?

Gosh for such a powerless person, that Challenor got policy set in all sorts of places! But....nothing to see here....

Datun · 17/08/2023 10:40

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/08/2023 10:36

Challenor was running for deputy leader of the Greens at the time Dad was on trial for torture and rape of a ten year old girl, while dressed as a little girl himself. AC then joined the Lib Dems and had to leave them as well later on.

Didn't Challoner also claim to have advised girl guides? Whilst posing holding a girl guide badge?

I mean, at this point, in my head, all I can hear is the venue's lawyers telling Glinner's KC, 'your witness'

I would donate my arse off to any crowd funder.

RoyalCorgi · 17/08/2023 10:41

Reduxx is a good source of news stories about men who sexually abuse children and who also identify as trans or promote trans ideology:

https://reduxx.info/category/news/

News Archives - Reduxx

https://reduxx.info/category/news

Helleofabore · 17/08/2023 10:41

Datun · 17/08/2023 10:40

Didn't Challoner also claim to have advised girl guides? Whilst posing holding a girl guide badge?

I mean, at this point, in my head, all I can hear is the venue's lawyers telling Glinner's KC, 'your witness'

I would donate my arse off to any crowd funder.

Both Challener and J Fae if I remember.

But... Challenor was apparently very minor. Nothing to worry about.

PlanetJanette · 17/08/2023 10:44

Datun · 17/08/2023 10:32

Father of a transperson who married a self confessed paedophile...

Think you missed the point.

The point is that if David Challoner is a 'central trans figure', then the definition extends to pretty much any person with even very mild prominence who is trans or active in campaigning for trans issues.

Hepwo · 17/08/2023 10:45

My thanks to the couple of posters here who are prompting the posting of evidence!

(Whilst claiming I.T. is frequently known as it.)

Operation "let them speak"!

Datun · 17/08/2023 10:45

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/08/2023 10:36

Challenor was running for deputy leader of the Greens at the time Dad was on trial for torture and rape of a ten year old girl, while dressed as a little girl himself. AC then joined the Lib Dems and had to leave them as well later on.

And after the official inquiry into Challoner's decisions or behaviour, I can't remember which, they were deemed, officially, to have no understanding of safeguarding.

just doesn't understand it.

Running for deputy leader of a major political party.

Deputy leader

I will still never get it.

Planet, If you don't want people to talk about links to paedophilia, don't keep getting them to.

Helleofabore · 17/08/2023 10:47

The fact that someone is here on Mumsnet on the feminist thread saying that having people who are either pedophiles themselves or who are known to support pedophiles in positions influencing policy, especially safeguarding, in so many organisations either through Stonewall or Mermaids or other groups is something to behold.

The very fact that those groups don't seem to recognise their own people's actions or support of people who are pedophiles is a major concern to me. And I am sure, to most people. Yet there seems to be always some people who will ignore these people's actions or their support.

Why? Why do these posters think that their position is one that they think readers will support? Are they so entrenched in their hatred of someone that they too will ignore that these groups are not distancing themselves from people who support pedophiles?

NicCageisnotNickCave · 17/08/2023 10:48

PlanetJanette · 17/08/2023 10:44

Think you missed the point.

The point is that if David Challoner is a 'central trans figure', then the definition extends to pretty much any person with even very mild prominence who is trans or active in campaigning for trans issues.

So why ARE there so many sex offenders ‘campaigning for trans issues’?

you could cast a net just as wide on terves and not find any (and no, that porn star doesn’t count because terves are swerves and you can’t be swerf and a porn performer)

Datun · 17/08/2023 10:48

PlanetJanette · 17/08/2023 10:44

Think you missed the point.

The point is that if David Challoner is a 'central trans figure', then the definition extends to pretty much any person with even very mild prominence who is trans or active in campaigning for trans issues.

Again, if you don't want people to list them, stop asking them to!

PlanetJanette · 17/08/2023 10:49

Helleofabore · 17/08/2023 10:34

You think that Challenor had a 'minor role'? Being instrumental in setting policy in both the Green Party and writing Stonewall guidance.

OK... Shall we continue then? If not Challenor, then Tatchell.

J Fae has been campaigning for the legalisation of extreme porn and the reduction in the age of consent for porn actors and is also been a 'spokesperson' for Stonewall while being used for media panels for a long time.

Tatchell and Fae are still considered media representatives. Why?

Shall we move on to the trustee for Mermaids? Breslow wasn't it?

Really, do you really want us to start bringing out all the names and their documented opinions?

Graham did not say 'ALL' and no one says all despite the constant dishonesty of extreme trans activists who lie about people saying 'all.'

He said 'nearly all', and then listed Amy Challoner as an example of a 'central trans figure'.

Now, if Amy Challoner is his definition of a 'central trans figure', then he has set the threshold for 'central' incredibly low. By definition, then, other prominent campaigners for trans inclusion - and there are very many more prominent than Amy Challoner - counts as a 'central trans figure' by GL's test. And GL is on the record saying that 'nearly all' of them are paedophiles.

Horticulturer · 17/08/2023 10:49

Hepwo · 17/08/2023 10:45

My thanks to the couple of posters here who are prompting the posting of evidence!

(Whilst claiming I.T. is frequently known as it.)

Operation "let them speak"!

I'm embarrassed for you, doubling down on something you clearly have no knowledge of (I.T./it).

ArabeIIaScott · 17/08/2023 10:51

PlanetJanette · 17/08/2023 10:24

Well based on that Talk TV interview, GL's threshold seems to be Amy Challoner's father.

So GL's threshold for being a 'central trans figure' seems to be being a father of a trans person who has had a fairly minor role in a minor political party, has been part of an advisory group for Stonewall and has knocked about student LGBT+ circles for a bit.

That is a pretty low threshold for someone to be a 'central trans figure'. So if 'nearly all central trans figures' are paedophiles, by definition, that must include 'nearly everyone' more central than David Challoner.

I don't know who he meant, but I'm guessing John Money, Alfred Kinsey and Michel Foucault are included, all of whom are big names. And also paedophiles, although I'm not quite sure if the allegations regarding Foucault's activity were 100% proven.

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