The amount of women condoning prostitution

[Thatgirl1981]

Well I seen it all now when your told
well maybe they enjoyed seeking explicit pictures on line

and all the young people do it

someone is on drugs is selling pictures of themselves to fund that habit parents are in disparate because consent is given then morals be dammed

I often wonder if you consent to be murdered people who just say well they consented 🤷🏿‍♂️

Bullshit.

Exploitation and enjoyment are not mutually exclusive.

Apparently not, when men get off for murder because they claim ‘sex game gone wrong’.

Why would she feel the need to regularly state that? Sounds like she’s trying to convince someone?
People don’t tend to regularly talk about past jobs they enjoyed.

the real evils that often get kind of lumped in with prostitution are addiction, people trafficking, inequality, the cost of living/housing crises, childcare costs, tuition fees, gig economy, unemployment rates, non-living wages, other general poverty, etc etc. to the limited extent that it's possible to discuss prostitution without bringing any of these very real problems into the equation then i don't have a huge problem with it per se.

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I completely and utterly disagree mainly because of the message it gives to men about women. Women are not a commodity to be bought and used. Your bf is very lucky if she has come out so happily unscathed. For every one of her though there will be 10 or 100 women seriously messed up by it, not to mention the possibilities of rape or even murder. I think I read that prostitutes were 18 times more likely to be murdered than other women and that the risk was actually higher for those not working on the street.

It's so sad to me that women can be persuaded that prostitution is some sort of positive empowering choice for women.

There were. To such an extent that defence is now outlawed. You cannot consent to be abused.

I worked for the vice squad and I definitely knew families where parents were happy for their kids to go into prostitution. One family had father acting as pimp for mother and then the son was pimp for his two sisters. I've known mothers take teenage daughters out with them to teach them how it works.

So yes some people would be happy for their kids to go into sex work.

He is being investigated for that. What I found more interesting (in this boring case) is that a spokesman came up and said the whole thing was 'homophobia' and the outrage had it been a woman sending photos would have been much less - has he not seen the fury roused by 'me too'? The row would have been much, much worse had the seller been a woman.

Yes, men who buy consent are the lowest of the low. It's an abuse of power and the knowledge of the inequality and the abuse is part of the thrill. It's not just about sex, it's about what you can make someone do for money. Remember the thread on here comparing prostitution to the trend for getting homeless people to humiliate themselves for money?

It needs to be driven home that desire for the sex and the other person should always accompany consent.

I agree with you. It's depressing and disturbing to see women so easily accept and normalize the practice of older men in positions of power perving over vulnerable young people who are rarely resorting to prostitution from a place of security or positive mental health. It's almost like there's an agenda to keep the funnel of nubile young bodies going so that men and their cocks remain the most important thing.

Sunlight is what we need. Rich, powerful men have been protected for too long from knowing what people think of men who buy sex. And the happy hooker narrative? Do me a favour, nobody believes that. My friend was a prostitute and loved it and made loads of money. Yeah right. How is her/his mental health? Positive self-esteem? It's all part of the agenda to normalise and promote so that sleazy men like HE, PS and all the rest have a ready supply of sex or wank material.

Mumsnet is full of women who condone porn and the sex industry. It's incredibly depressing.

But if you ignore all the real life circumstances and limit the discussion of prostitution to a hypothetical world where people aren't faced with all sorts of complex financial and other pressures, what would be the relevance of that discussion to real life?

Of course she is, Maddy. 😁😜

If someone wouldn't do the sexual thing if you weren't paying them, you're a scumbag. Even if it's legal

Meant to say I agree with this!

That’s a family with deeply ingrained misogyny. The father and son could have been selling their arses and mouths to men, but they weren’t were they? They left the women to do that whilst they collected the cash.

I couldn’t disagree more.

the message it sends to men is that they can pay to access women’s bodies. That they can use the bodies of women who aren’t attracted to them and don’t want to have sex with them. Those men don’t know or care if your mate was happy to have sex with them, if she was forced or exploited. The whole idea of prostitution is wrong, the whole fundamental it is based on is wrong and harmful, regardless of your mate.

Yep, and damages ALL.women (and increasingly, young men it seems) irrespective of whether they are personaly involved or not or whether the odd woman claims to have thought it was a great career choice with no negative consequences for them (which I don't believe).

Look at the women killed on a weekly basis in the UK alone? Look at the stories of desperate parents in Eastern Europe looking for their 14 year old daughters that have been sex-traficked into the UK for men's pleasure. Look at the anguish on the relationship boards on here when suspecting partners discover Adultworks and OF accounts? It all grim behaviour that makes women's and children/young people's lives harder, so men can get their rocks off. Time to leave it in the past for me.

@Maddy70 Did she work her way through college, by any chance?

Agreed!

Hundreds of people a day sell images on only fans. Some of you may pay for them. Some of your husbands pay for them. You have NO idea what they are spending their money on and most likely nor did he. You actually have no idea how old they are in reality. You only care because he is famous and therefore someone made it all public.

The question I was responding to was would people be happy for their kids to go into sex work and the answer is yes some people would. Mothers and fathers. That mother became a madam in a brothel so she was happy to take the money from younger women when she got too old to make enough money. It was their family business, had been for at least 3 generations. They didn't see it as a big deal, they liked the money for what they saw as easy work.

I've seen all sorts, abused girls forced into or coerced into sex work, single mother prostituting 14 year old daughter as she wanted the money, fathers/step fathers/brothers/boyfriends taking most of the money, young homeless men looking to make enough money for a bed for the night or the next fix and occasionally a confident young woman making good money and investing it in a business or education so she could move onto a different life. The saddest? Teenage girl, 9 months pregnant in the early stages of labour with a punter. How desperate is that.

Almost forgot, we had a couple of trans prostitutes who were saving up for surgery.

I had to change jobs in the end, it gives you a very dark view of life and can be quite poisonous to personal relationships.

Bullshit. I'm not married, I control the finances in my relationship and I think OF and people that pay for it are scum. I care for the reasons I've already said and I think it's great that famous men are being exposed like this a sit exposed the whole sordid shitshow that is prostitution and OF.

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