Rape decriminalised in Scotland

[Hoardasurass]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/alleged-teen-rapist-avoids-justice-30315356?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar
Does anyone know what we can do about this

It is basically saying, ‘Boys will be boys’ and ‘It didn’t really harm you now, did it dear?’

So, on a quick google of conviction rates, "In the year to September 2021, just 1.3% of rape cases recorded by police resulted in a suspect being charged". And that's before you even get to the convictions vs acquittals (about 75% convictions apparently). About 1% of rape reports result in conviction, then. (Though other sources report 3-5%).

And some of that pitiful number of convictions result in non-custodial sentences. Victims really must be wondering what the point is in reporting rape.

And that is reported rapes.
So many aren’t even reported, including of children.
It is definitely a crime with odds of something like 300:1 that you’ll get away with it.

And ‘he’s more important than you; can’t have a tiny mistake ruining his life now.’

Awful.

How can they mis-use a legal provision intended for petty crimes in this way?

How dare they simply change the law on a whim?

Is raping now expected and protected as part of a coming of age ( up to 25)?

I thought there was supposed to be a campaign on to teach boys and young men the opposite.

(I can’t remember who ‘they’ are who are doing this law twisting. To whom can we object who has more power than they do?)

I notice one of the alleged rapists is a sports student. People like him seem much admired, including in America.

Doesn't matter if he makes it as a sports star, he will always be a rapist first and foremost.

I don't know if this has previously been added to the thread. At least this one got some jail time. He's a serial rapist though.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12286097/Graduate-23-raped-four-women-jailed-just-nine-half-years.html

9,5yrs is piss poor for four rapes, that should have been a 7 for each at least.

He won't even serve that, if he behaves and makes tthe right noises he'll be out in less than five. At least his name and face are out there and he's got a criminal conviction.

9.5 years for each rape, served one after the other

No 9.5 years total

He's on a 12.5 year extended licence, running concurrently with the prison sentence. That means that he'll have to be very careful on release, on threat of recall to prison.

I heard about this on the radio yesterday, I thought they'd said that he has to serve a minimum of 2/3 of the custodial - has anyone seen / heard anything about that?

Another sex offender in Scotland avoiding jail:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/fab9866c-218d-11ee-9b6f-7186ba87ded7?shareToken=48239dc7084d93afcc42a96bae816525

"The sheriff said: “With some hesitation I am going to allow you to remain at liberty. You were convicted by the jury of all three charges. You just don’t get the seriousness of this matter.”"

No explanation why he was not send to prison despite the Sheriff's hesitation.

Jesus Christ what the fuck?!

women and girls are in no way safe in Scotland.

When he does it again in the US will they cover it up then too?

What the hell is going on in Scotland? This is outrageous

We women need to seriously copy the Icelandic sex strike until this shit is sorted.

You were convicted by the jury of all three charges. You just don’t get the seriousness of this matter.

And still the judge didn't think that prison was appropriate? If he can come out with that and still not lock him up, the judge seems unfit for purpose. I wonder if this can be appealed, as an unduly lenient sentence?

Quite.

Surely not imposing a custodial sentence is only going to undermine any perception of the seriousness of the matter.

Do the sentencing guidelines just say ‘well boys will be boys’?

What I think a lot of people don't understand, even those in Scotland, is that supervision IS a punishment.

And as a sex offender he'll no doubt have conditions attached to that such as not being allowed unsupervised contact with under 16s or conditions on internet usage.

Any breach of those can see the sentence converted to one of imprisonment- especially where it's been a "direct alternative to imprisonment", as in this case.

Do the sentencing guidelines just say ‘well boys will be boys’?

In this case the perpetrator is non-binary. So maybe "theys will be theys".
I'm not entirely certain what sex the 15 year old victim is, a girl identifying as male, I assume, but I can't really be certain given the way it is reported.

Supervision seems a woefully inadequate punishment for a repeat sex offender. Whose victim this time is a child.

It’s hard to tell.

but yes. ‘Theys will be theys’. Can be imposing our boring ‘cis-het norms’ on poor sex offenders.

Supervision seems a woefully inadequate punishment for a repeat sex offender. Whose victim this time is a child.

Maybe to those of us who don't have access to full facts.

None of us heard the case and sheriff will likely have had a social work report ordered which will have informed his sentencing.

If the Crown feels it's unduly lenient they can appeal

I'm not saying I necessarily agree with the sentence, but people don't seem to realise that supervision is still a punishment.

But not as much of a punishment as, say, being in prison.