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mathanxiety · 25/06/2023 20:22

What can be done?

Find out his identity and what university he's headed to in the US and barrage their athletic director as well as the head coach of their soccer program with details of the crime. Send details to the campus women's center and security department too.

While he hasn't been found guilty, there was clearly sufficient evidence to bring the case to trial, and there seems to be general horror at the miscarriage of justice that has occurred here.

The NCAA has rules about the personal conduct of student athletes.

mathanxiety · 25/06/2023 20:24

No green card needed for a sports scholarship. He would have a student visa.

But he has very likely fallen foul of NCAA rules.

ArabeIIaScott · 25/06/2023 20:54

Thanks, mathanxiety.

Bloody hell:

'The Sexual Offences Review recognises the profound impact that sexual crimes have on victims and on society and the fact that, in recent years, sexual offences have become about 70 per cent of the casework of Scotland’s High Court prosecutors and the number of cases has further increased in 2022.'

https://www.copfs.gov.uk/about-copfs/sexual-offences-review/

(bold mine).

Sexual Offences Review | COPFS

Information about the review of how prosecutors in Scotland deal with reports of sexual offences.

https://www.copfs.gov.uk/about-copfs/sexual-offences-review

ArabeIIaScott · 25/06/2023 20:56

'If you would like to get in touch with the Sexual Offences Review Team about something within the scope of the Sexual Offences Review:

  • You can contact the team by email at [email protected]
  • You can call the team's dedicated number on 0300 020 3832
  • You can also text the team on 07341 515046

The team will aim to answer your calls wherever possible but if they are not available, please leave a message. The team will respond as soon as possible and always within two working days.
The team will ask what you want to talk to them about.
Tell the Sexual Offences Review Team about your experiences

You can tell the Sexual Offences Review Team about your experiences, as long as you are not involved as a victim, witness or accused person in an ongoing case. Talking to us will help us to build a picture about how things could be better dealt with.

It may be difficult for you to tell us about your experiences. The Sexual Offences Review Team will carefully listen to you and do our best to support you when you are talking to us. We want you to feel safe when you speak to us.

You might need support to help you to give us information. If someone is already giving you support, or has supported you in the past, you might want to talk to them. They may also be able to help you through the process of speaking to us. If you do not have support already, the Sexual Offences Review Team will be able to provide you with a list of outside support services.

By talking to us you will help us make recommendations to ensure the process for prosecution of sexual offences in Scotland is better in the future.
What the Sexual Offences Review team cannot do

The Sexual Offences Review Team cannot:

  • discuss ongoing cases with you, if you are a victim, witness or accused person,
  • deal with complaints about COPFS
  • deal with victims’ right to review prosecutorial decisions
  • take a report of a crime
  • provide clinical services to victims of crime
  • re-investigate completed cases.'

Does that last para mean we can contact them about this case in the OP, or not? Does it count as 'completed'?

MistyGreenAndBlue · 25/06/2023 21:38

LakeTiticaca · 25/06/2023 15:34

People will end up meting out vigilante justice if this continues.

And vigilantes don't tend to follow the letter of the law 🙄

Can't come soon enough for me.
Let's face it, until this situation starts affecting MEN, nothing will change.

Maybe when the bodies of rapists and abusers start piling up in the streets, the powers that be might decide they need to address the problem. They won't do it for women or children.

SinnerBoy · 25/06/2023 21:38

ArabeIIaScott · Today 20:13

I thought that was so, because I applied for a US B1 and C1D visa in 2000. I had to tell them that I'd been arrested as an under 17 and supply them with the details.

My company wanted me to lie about it, but I didn't feel comfortable; I got the visas.

WickedSerious · 26/06/2023 08:15

What the fuck?

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SinnerBoy · 02/07/2023 14:46

I really, really hope they win, even if he only gets six months; it would kill off his chance to go and have a lovely time in America. And it'll follow him for life, as it should.

ArabeIIaScott · 02/07/2023 15:31

More power to that mother. I honestly also think a trial would be in the boy/man's best interests too. If he's innocent he can clear his name; the current decision seems to admit guilt while skipping justice. Worst of all worlds.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 02/07/2023 15:38

Yes, technically you have to declare any arrests even when you weren't charged. In practice I have a family member in that situation who has visited the US several times on visa waiver (ESTA) without declaring, but yes it is a risk.

Dianbeatthis · 03/07/2023 17:26

The fury that mother must be feeling. I’m so glad she’s fighting this appalling decision.

Northernsouloldies · 04/07/2023 13:31

It gets worse if that's possible. He breached his pay back order and was admonished. He issued a heartfelt apology to the court (crocodile tears me thinks. His sense of entitlement knows no bounds. What about the life of the girl he raped. I really hope this case can be reviewed and he gets a custodial sentence.

IcakethereforeIam · 04/07/2023 14:15

It said he's planning to appeal! 😡

SinnerBoy · 04/07/2023 14:51

Yes, as if he hasn't got off extremely lightly as it is.

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ArabeIIaScott · 10/07/2023 10:21

IcakethereforeIam · 04/07/2023 14:15

It said he's planning to appeal! 😡

Well, is this 'solution' leaving a question of guilt hanging over him? Would an appeal mean a court case?

ArabeIIaScott · 10/07/2023 10:23

Hoardasurass · 10/07/2023 09:44

That is absolutely fucking appalling. What the FUCK are they thinking?

ArcaneWireless · 10/07/2023 16:42

That lass got told I appreciate that you are disappointed with this decision.

Disappointed for letting her rapist off with what amounts to a talking to? For rape?

Kaitlyn is absolutely correct. This little get out clause should not be used for rape or any other violent crime.

Hoardasurass · 10/07/2023 17:31

ArcaneWireless · 10/07/2023 16:42

That lass got told I appreciate that you are disappointed with this decision.

Disappointed for letting her rapist off with what amounts to a talking to? For rape?

Kaitlyn is absolutely correct. This little get out clause should not be used for rape or any other violent crime.

It's only supposed to be used for low level crime such as shoplifting (the actual example give when it was brought in) this means that the procurator fiscal deems child sexual abuse and rape as low level crime in Scotland. Let that sink in, we are talking about victims (girls) who are 13, 14 and 15 years old and the worst that happens to the perpetrator is community service or counselling.

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ArcaneWireless · 10/07/2023 17:35

I could weep.

SinnerBoy · 10/07/2023 17:47

As several of us have mentioned already, this sort of decision is very likely to lead to vigilante action. If my daughter were a victim and the rapist got a little telling off, I'd be fucking incandescent.

ArcaneWireless · 10/07/2023 18:03

There was a case here where someone did act because no one was willing to take action (over the years) while their child was systematically bullied and physically assaulted by another child. Guess the sexes….

I don’t condone it.

I do understand it.

And if I’m honest, there wasn’t much in the way of sympathy for the bully from anyone.

I’ve no doubt it will happen again if this is what our justice system has become. And I think it really wouldn’t happen if justice was served.

It is a pure sin what is happening.

SwordToFlamethrower · 10/07/2023 18:14

This is absolutely abhorrent and yes, we absolutely need to take to the streets, immediately!