Pride parades not well attended in some parts?

[Moonandstarzz]

I know pride as a whole was very toned down this month. The usual paraphernalia or pomp & ceremony wasn't displayed. I thought the parades would be well attended however there was a very poor showing in my town plus Dublin & Cork cities ones were also poorly supported.
Friends of mine in the lgb community said their was a huge appeal within the community for a big showing this year but it hasn't happened.
They boycotted pride as they say it no longer represents them & the vast majority of their friends did the same .

Yes, I know the type. Pathetic drama queens/kings 🙄 who create nonsensical narratives about feeling “unsafe” and then tearfully react to it as though it’s real. Right up there with the “Queer” community on SM who post dramatically about seeking refuge in other countries and setting up some kind of “Underground Railroad” in order to facilitate their having to FLEE! Cosplaying oppression that real people actually went through. Extraordinarily disgusting if we are being honest.

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I'm sorry, I thought this was a forum which dealt with facts and evidence, not made up rubbish.
The irony of this statement used to back up anything to do with the T community.... where its all made up rubbish based on stereotypes of behaviour and toxic masculinity.

I no longer support pride. Its not somewhere I would be comfortable taking my children nor am I interested in participating in someone else's kink or delusion.

I have many LGB friends and am strongly supportive of the community. But pride is something else now, really only about the TQ+ and somewhat the G.

Being that LGB is same sex attraction and TQ doesn't believe sex is an important thing but instead some gender feeling, the interests of the 2 seem at conflict. Its an odd pairing.

So how do I challenge my lesbian friends? If I say what you are saying here I’ll be accused of being homophobic?

I haven't claimed anything about the transgender community or gender ideology.

I have provided evidence that OP is not being entirely truthful when they say that Pride in Dublin was very poorly attended.

Find new, non dramatic, sensible friends?

But how do I have this conversation with the ones I have? It’s not as easy as dumping them as friends because she is my brothers ex wife and the mother of my niece and nephew. I was friends with her before she new my brother.

Exactly this.
It breaks my heart to see younger Lesbians who have nowhere to go, nowhere to meet other lesbians, and sometimes nowhere to see healthy examples of women in same sex relationships just getting on with their lives, because the lesbian community has been pushed underground - away from the men with fetishes and the furries.

*knew

Avoid those convos or just go along with it if you love them and don’t want to offend. Not everything has to “challenged” not everyone has to be “pulled up” if they’re not hurting anyone. Social media type confrontational behaviours around personal beliefs don’t really work in real life with loved ones I have found.

As a proud lesbian feminist Pride attendee for nearly forty years (first one in 1986, I think), I think it's relevant to this discussion that I'm only going to one this year, and I'm only going to that one to protest it. I have kept going to my local Pride in a vain attempt to recapture some of the spirit of those protests of my youth, but you can't breath life back into that foetid corpse, I'm afraid. It's people, and particularly women, like me who are abandoning Pride in droves.

Interesting thread, my daughter at an all girls school and a few years ago over half identified as something on the rainbow, so much so that my daughter wanted to buy her own flag and chose identifying as 'asexual' many have quietly stopped all this, a few have remained trans but according to her and her friends they see less homophobia and that "people of her generation are less hung up about labelling their sexuality and just go with the flow, love is love etc". So maybe, slowly, homophobia might be reducing if the younger generations are more tolerant and less judgey and bigoted? So pride itself might become less of a thing? We can live in hope I know but it was a useful insight into the thinking of a group of 16 year olds!

Can I just add, I'm very pro pride and very anti any type of homophobia!!

So is it fine for them not to go to Pride? Or are they being dramatic? I don’t think they should have to go if they don’t feel comfortable and I wouldn’t argue that they should go.

From what you have said it feels like they habe manipulated me. But no one here seems to like Pride anyway. So the end result is they don’t go anyway. Does their reasoning matter?

Our Tesco had a rather dull ‘announcement’ about some bloke who ‘came out’ to his supervisor about being gay, and how ‘lovely’ everyone else was about it. Seemed rather old fashioned to me, I can’t imagine who in what sounded like his age group would care about it, unless he worked in a store where there were a lot of colleagues with religious reservations .

Random woman getting lemons at the same time as me said ‘ I don’t care about the sexual activities of the bloke who is restocking the cornflakes, personally’. I had to agree.

Dublin Pride has faked a photo to suggest an important founding pride March after the homophobic murder of Declan Flynn included a Trans Rights are Human Rights placard.
And then tried to style it out by saying obviously it was a meme.
Duplicitous bull shitters.

There's going to be a backlash felt by L, G and B people. Happy to stand up for and defend them . TQ+ can fuck off.

SeaSaltAir · Today 14:01

Wrong! I’ve spoken to people who specifically said that they are scared to attend because of the anti pride movement.

It seems a bit facile to say that people have decided not to attend, for one single reason. Perhaps some do fear violence; we know that some have decided not to attend, because it no longer represents them, here and in other places.

Same for a good half of my LGB friends. They feel like their flag has been hijacked and they won't cow to the 'new way to be gay' or be told what they should think.

Lesbian friends in particular have stayed away, due their recent treatment by the 'community' in labelling them terfs if they won't sleep with a trans woman, even if their penis remains and they present as male. They should 'look past it', apparently.

Misogyny at a staggering level.

Some parasites kill their hosts. Such a creature is the TQ+.

Anecdotally I noticed the pictures I've seen of pride this year, many people who did attend have gone out of there way to carry the traditional rainbow flag without the trans bit... scattered with a few people in the crowd wearing ONLY the trans flag around their shoulders. Just thought it was interesting

Ask them if they feel the trans & furry community are impinging on their rights?

@Flickersy will RTÉ & all the fine publications you insist on linking report on this? 🤔

@bellinisurge I saw that.. Making it all about the TQ... The lgb don't matter.

Agree with this and with @Killeditwithkisses . From my perspective as a straight person, anyway, Pride is now symptomatic of three quite sinister and regressive trends:

1. Rolling back of lesbian rights - it is scarcely believable that it is no longer acceptable for lesbians to reject sex with men, and that those who do so explicitly are not welcome at Pride.

2. Conflation with 'gay' with 'hyper-sexualised'/kinks - a stereotype that LGB people had to fight so hard to overcome in the past

3. At the same time (weirdly) the Disneyfication of gay people, especially men - again, some of the stuff that is now promoted by Pride is straight out of a 1970s TV evangelist's homophobic sermon about how gay men are all preening, camp narcissists.

When I see Pride stuff, I think about a friend of mine, James, who is an engineer who likes cycling and who has an allotment. He's just incredibly normal. Maybe he's a secret furry but, if he is, he keeps it to himself. How does Pride represent him, as a gay man? How is Pride advancing his interests? He works in a traditionally macho environment, so I imagine there is a fair bit of homophobia, still. Instead of promoting acceptance of being gay as just a normal variant of sexuality , Pride seems hellbent on telling the world that James must be a fetishist, a drag queen wannabe and incapable of thinking about anything apart from Love Island and fashion. How is that progress?