What happened to the thread on the two school girls...

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...who were being preached absolute codswallop at by their teacher?

I presume deleted, but why?

School in cat self-ID row faces investigation

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I would just like to get as many gender supporters as possible to publicly agree to 'animal identities are ridiculous'. As all these very reasonable people on the genderist side are saying this isn't real they shouldn't have a problem with banning nonhuman identities from the classroom (beyond reception obviously where they're very very valid but sit on your chair now George, you can be a cat again after lunch). Which would make teachers lives easier.

See previous iterations of pivoting backwards and forwards between 'don't be ridiculous nobody is saying transwomen are female' and 'how dare you say transwomen are male'. Or 'you can change gender, nobody is saying you can change sex' and 'a transwoman's sex is female and it's genocide to say otherwise'.

It seems that what these girls did has hit a nerve and the power of the intimidation & bullying is fading away. If it means that certain schools can now be challenged for their trans extremism and we return to boundaries with referrals for psychological help for children believing they're the wrong sex (let alone that they're a horse, cat etc) then the impact on children's safety will be massive.

The Telegraph article doesn't elaborate on horse or dinosaur identification but there's another article that includes an anonymous description by a pupil who claims a classmate has a cat identity and miaows instead of speaking in class, causing disruption. Another anecdote about a pupil wearing a cape and identifying as a moon. Schools not clamping down on uniform rules etc when they let cosplay come under gender identity.

Behind paywall
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/06/19/school-children-identifying-as-animals-furries/

It just seems so wildly unlikely!

I like to to imagine that our institutions have retained some semblance of a sense of humour which would save them from behaving like unmitigated idiots.

but if I’m wrong, I’m wrong <weeps quietly>

Another anecdote about a pupil wearing a cape and identifying as a moon

I read that as 'identifying as a moron.' Can't imagine why.

Maybe now the whole sorry farce has been exposed there will be less of it.
I wonder what will happen to the teacher. The newspapers haven’t named her but Twitter has.

I’m sceptical too. It does sound made up. Although I suppose if you start allowing people to identify as something they are not then where do you apply the breaks. The BBC said there were 100 genders and presumably that must include some rather quirky identities. How are teachers to know which genders to allow and which ones to banish to the playground?

One pupil at a state secondary school in Wales told The Telegraph of a fellow pupil who “feels very discriminated against if you do not refer to them as ‘catself’”. She added: “When they answer questions, they meow rather than answer a question in English. And the teachers are not allowed to get annoyed about this because it’s seen as discriminating.”
The student in question is in Year 11, but began using the pronoun “catself” in Year 9 “when the whole thing with neo pronouns started”, the pupil said.
She described how lessons could be completely derailed if a teacher attempted to get the child to reply to a question in English rather than meowing.

I can totally believe this. There's a girl in my DS's year (year 11) who has changed her name to a particular type of bread. She insists on the pronouns it and it's and her and her friends police anyone who get it wrong.

Very much hoping she leaves at the end of this year and does a bakery apprenticeship or something.

Kids are a struggle to get to respect authority and limits etc.

Do teachers really think by kowtowing to this craziness they're doing anything other than making their own lives teaching even more difficult than ever?

Hopefully the bravery of these girls in recording this is what makes change happen. The Unions are of course"nothing to see here" but that's because their Stonewall capture is what has enabled a small group of trans zealots to silence the responsible majority of teachers.
It is a wake up call and hopefully some children are this morning being called into meetings with their parents and told that they're not animals and that the school will no longer pander to their delusion, with some urgent psychological help on offer.

And then reviewing how on earth they got this so wrong.

I hope those teachers realise not all dinos were carnivorous. Although I quite like the idea of identifying as a dinosaur - there are days when being a T Rex and killing everything in sight rather appeals.

Very much hoping she leaves at the end of this year and does a bakery apprenticeship or something.😂

Thing is though, these children are being failed because can you imagine anyone like that getting or holding down a job? When it comes to work, it's not all about you. I wish I could identify as having done my weeks work but my employer definitely wouldn't be happy with that.

Interviewer: What makes you think that you'd be a good fit for this position in our bakery?

Interviewee: I just need to let you know that my pronouns are it/its and I identify as a bagel.

Interviewer: So what exactly will you bring to the role?

Interviewee: Well I'll really identify with the bread.

Interviewer: 'Do you plan do actually do any work?'

Interviewee: 'So, these are the adjustments I'll need...'

Interviewer: Well, thanks for your application....

One issue that schools and teachers are facing is that pupils identifying as whatever, changing names, insisting on different pronouns etc are mostly supported by parents, contrary to popular opinion. What do teachers do when parents are enabling this and expect support from the school?
Personally, as a recently retired teacher, it makes me very uncomfortable. I know there are many other teachers who feel the same. In my experience schools are not hotbeds of gender ideology but are trying to navigate their way through it all.

Well exactly, it's just bloody idiotic. I have no idea if bagel girl is taking the piss but a teacher apologised to her for calling her 'young lady' when bagel-girl objected.

Pandering to the nonsense isn't doing anyone any favours, least of all the young people.

This is a really good point. Sunak's proposed changes are to prevent schools enabling pupils changing gender against their parents wishes/without their permission.

But if the parents are in on it, encouraging, or "at best", just going along with their kids to BeKind and NotBeJudgemental, then the schools have no chance.

Can you imagine a whole bunch of kids where the parents are fine with NB, trans, cat gender etc? Other kids who don't have our decades of ability to navigate the world and communicate absolutely clearly, taught to believe in science and common sense, go on to use these beliefs to speak out against schoolmates that are peddling anti-science beliefs, and it's the pro-science dissenters kids who will be the ones hauled over the coals.

The progressive elites who have promulgated this deception and narcissistic worldview amongst the most impressionable amongst us, have so much to answer for.

Can anyone get the Gov. to pause the allowing of parents/anyone saying a child is confirmed as transgender and must be treated as such?

It definitely sounds as though whoever is making these new rules for schools does not know what some parents are like, or how other parents have been manipulated.

Spot on. Like the parent of the girl claiming to be a boy insisting that she MUST be placed in the boy's dorm on a field trip. When the schools said no and referenced safeguarding, she got one of the adult trans groups to threaten the school - so they cancelled the residential and did a number of day trips instead. The teachers refused to abandon safeguarding principles.

Here's another one:

https://twitter.com/EssexPR/status/1671252075169329152?s=20&fbclid=IwAR1Q9eUOjnJj6eDtLZ8VNYW1kLmM3TbOycNYMQLrpIXFvEkzBi-0Mdmlizc

As with others the kid may have been an absolute pain in lesson and deserved a consequence, but the punisent appears to be entirely for saying there areonly two genders (sexes to you and me)

I'm also aware I probably disagree with with tweeter on most political and social issues. I don't care.

The teacher said,
“I am not putting my opinion out, I
am stating what is National. School. Authority. Policy”

Well - it appears that finally Starmer has been forced to speak out and state that children self IDing as cats "is clearly ridiculous". Good to see that finally the safeguarding consequences of this for children are starting to permeate. And if the Labour party is stating that some boundaries about reality are important then the activists in unions and schools must start to take notice.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/06/21/keir-starmer-children-self-identifying-as-cats/

Hmmmm, it's his spokesman, though it must have been authorised:

"His spokesman said: “It’s clearly ridiculous if you’re in a situation where children are not being recognised as childrenn_. I think it’s fairly obvious what the right approach should be in this case.”
Asked whether Sir Keir thought a child could identify as a cat, the spokesman said: “I think children should be told to identify as children.”
Asked if the teacher was out of line, the spokesman replied: “Yes.”"

Good to know there are boundaries!! Gender woo - yes. Animals - no.

When's he going to disown his Penis News hostage video?! We all want that to happen!! C'mon Labour, you're almost sounding electable.

The way he kept repeating 'the authority' made me think of The Magisterium in His Dark Materials.

I wonder how many more ‘discussions’ will be recorded and posted on msm.

Also, what the schools will do about it? I mean, if as this teacher says, it’s the school authority making him say it, Will this authority change their policy or will teachers be told not to make any comments should the subject come up in class?

If it's reasonable to tell children to identify as children, why can't we tell men to identify as men?

Either someone's identity is deeply personal and nobody else can tell them what it should be, or that's not the case at all. Which is it?