Four found dead in property

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The police are not looking for anyone else, we know how this generally unfolds.

RIP Dawid, Maja and Monika. Sorry society has failed yet another family, I can't see an end to this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-65937795

'There's lots of good data on male violence'

If anyone has good solid data on sexual assault, what proportion of men commit sexual assault, I'd like to read it.

I think the nature of it - hardly reported, by victims or assailants - means that figures are hard to get?

It's obviously enormously difficult to estimate figures on this, but from rough observations and calculations I've got a (very rough) figure of 1 in 20 men, or 5%, who have sexually assaulted.

That's higher than it ought to be but it's considerably less than 30%.

The gap between the two is consequences. Which is why the level of rape and sexual assault jumps massively during war, genocide, in very poor countries, any time when men are relatively rich and powerful. Places where the fear of consequence reduces, the rate of rape goes up massively.

And the obvious point is that when, as in the UK, consequences start to reduce to zero because of rape culture and a lack of conviction, well it's not rocket science is it?

Well, any figures we have will no doubt be incorrect due to the aforementioned under reporting.

It's a difficult situation. I actually think it's not always indifference by the justice system so much as the difficulty of getting any reliable proof.

How can you tell with certainty who's telling the truth when the man says it was consensual and the woman says it wasn't?

Is relying on men to be honest really going to get good data?

I know one man can assault multiple women but I think stats on women who say they have been assaulted or abused or controlled show how bad the situation is too? Id want to ask more than have you experienced these issues I'd want to ask how many different men. so we don't assume when a woman says yes they experienced these things that it was just the one guy