Can we have a Daily Mail apprection thread after this article?!

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11995903/The-new-face-extremism-unmasked-Republicans-watching-trantifa.html

Well done Reem Alaselem. Now the UN are on board.

Absolutely.

I can assure you I am not right wing in the slightest. I believe that everyone has the right to live their lives with decent housing, have a good education for their children, a health care system that works and to have freedom and the right to express their opinions.

What’s happening now is a shutting down of any opinion that doesn’t fit with the left or middle left ideology. Anyone liberal or right leaning is indefinitely a Nazi if they dare to voice their concerns on hot button issues. Honestly I can’t tell you how harmful that is long term. You e only got to lock at how well censorship works in changing behaviours. People are being censored. Their opinions are being shut down and their thoughts are being policed. If you were actively trying to engineer a hard right wing swing this is how you would do it.

Well I'm their base & they appeal to me. Job well done Daily Mail.

Jeeze no. They actually did that? FFS.

The Daily Mail isn't a borg. It's a media publication made up of many different human beings, male or female, who will have their own personal views which inevitably (and no matter how much they try to be impartial) will colour their views.

It is disingenuous to say that not a single person writing these articles doesn't see an issue and is therefore reporting on it, and it's just the influence of some crazy baying mob that they're capitulating to.

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Someone on a thread on the feminism board, saying that they don't agree with women being objectified, being told this isn't the thread place for them.
Says it all.
It's not about women on here. Hasn't been for a while now.

Can you not understand that we are talking about ONE ISSUE?

Please do delete. We don't need your narrow minded inability to see what is in front of your face because of long held grudges.

It's hardly a trailblazing bastion of speaking truth to power, is it. It's a massively financially successful business operation, nothing more

You'd be daft to think that the government of the day, whoever it is, doesn't pay attention to what occupies the tabloids. They have a readership of millions, and if they correctly identify what is a concern to their readers then government takes notice. Saying It's a massively financially successful business operation, nothing more is like saying Tesco's nothing more than a massively successful finanicial operation. Both have very successfully identified and appeal to their market and as a result wield power.

Agree.

And it worries me that people want to celebrate the fact that a nuanced, complex issue like this is being simplified into the daily Mail’s outrage fuelled form of ‘journalism’

it makes me suspect that the posters who are doing that don’t really care about having difficult, grown up conversations about the things that matter, but just want to feel like their own unchallenged opinions are vindicated.

Agree with this. Their Stephen Lawrence headline was astonishing at the time.
Also agree with pps saying they read a range of things, so do I. Because I am capable of critical thought . I follow all sorts of people on Twitter for the same reason.

Keeping men out of women’s spaces and refuges and prisons and shortlists isn’t complex. Safe guarding children and vulnerable boys, girls women and men isn’t nuanced.

it makes me suspect that the posters who are doing that don’t really care about having difficult, grown up conversations about the things that matter, but just want to feel like their own unchallenged opinions are vindicated

Funny, that, because I'd say the same about the people ignoring what the DM has to say because it's in a paper they detest.

When the DM stop posting long-distance-lens swimwear creep shots of female celebrities at the beach with captions like "Billie Piper shows off her curves in revealing two piece while on sexy jaunt with rumoured lover"...

...then you might have a hope in hell of convincing me DM is a beacon of feminism

I put 'Daily Mail' in the .gif drawer and this came up. I think it speaks for all of us.

@Ohalpro isn't that exactly what the general public need?! To have what's be done to children & women broken down with examples given.

Awareness needs to be completely raised to safeguard children, women's rights & spaces. The Mail are doing an excellent job. Every citizen should be aware of how the GRA will affect them & their children personally.

It's not the thread for you if you object to women being objectified by them.
Apparently

That. The DM also likes to stir up hate and intolerance. And sadly the GC have some uncomfortable bedfellows in this debate, who couldn't give a damn about women, but enjoy a good jeer at anyone different and hate 'Applebee's.

I for one, am uncomfortable at the idea of sharing views with such people. The DM isn't doing this out of the goodness of its heart. It knows it's regular readership, that's all.

I might get most of my news from the Guardian, but if the Brexit vote taught me anything, it was that I'd occupied a news bubble and not recognised how people.outside my bubble were thinking. So I also take a look at the Mail and the Telegraph at least once or twice a week. So I know of what I'm talking, even if I dislike them.

Complete brain rot

Is this inability to see different aspects of things an issue throughout your life? Do you cut out any family member that has a different opinion on somehting to you?

Two things can both be true at the same time. They can print their pap shots in the sidebar of shame AND be a loud voice of reason on transactivism and womens rights.
Amazing how many of you can't see the grey....the world is not black and white.

I read news from a wide variety of sources: The Guardian, Mail on line, Byline Times, local press, Twitter, I watch ITV and Channel 4 news and listen to LBC. I do this to try to address my own biases (we all have them) and to try get a nuanced picture of current affairs. Personally I find the Mail pretty objectionable about most subjects, but it has a massive reach and influence much of which I personally find pretty toxic.

hate 'Applebee's.

WYF autocorrect? How did wokeness become Applebee's?

I would love a nuanced take on these issues in the Guardian, or on the BBC website, but since they are captured this is not currently possible. That being the case I will read the DM links reporting on these issues. It is clear the DM and the Telegraph have identified GI issues as a major issue for Labour. Good. Now at least part of the press is airing this issue Labour will start to take these issues seriously and hopefully it will push them towards respecting women and children’s rights and safety as well as trans peoples. Good work Daily Mail imo.

What's nuanced or complex about a rapist with his rapist cock bulging through his pink "lady leggings" nearly ending up in a women's prison? I don't care which media outlet reported that shitshow- it prevented vulnerable women from harm.

My point there re what you've quoted me was responding to the PP who said (I'm summarising) that the DM deserves recognition for talking about issues other publications wouldn't touch, and I was saying that they're not brave for writing articles about stuff like this, they're not leading the crusade against the evil leftie snowflakes; they're a business making money. So my point was they are operating on business, money-making grounds, not socially conscious, brave and pioneering ones.

Yes I do - it's a way of diverting attention from important topics that don't fit its political agenda. The economic impact of Brexit, the state of health and social care, the abysmal perforamnce of the Conservatives, inflation etc. Trans matters are of relatively low concern or consideration for most people in the UK on a daily basis.

Your belief these are fundemental societal issues that need a lot of attention is your perogative. I disagree.