Antipodean fruit growers 3 - Is the Kiwi a Dodo or a Phoenix?

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Continuation thread from Antipodean fruit growers 2 - Canary in the internet coal mine
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4632616-antipodean-fruit-growers-2-canary-in-the-internet-coal-mine

Front row seat on the seemingly eternal battle between Jersh (aka Suzi Quatro's Fat Nan) and his Merry Band of Farmers against the Transpowered Forces of Internet Censorship.

1st Thread - Antipodean fruit grower statement
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4620584-antipodean-fruit-grower-statement

I know they lie a lot.

But is it ALL lies?

@TheJoyOfWriting

Try writing your question instead of copy/pasting a HUGE wall of text. I have no idea what you wanted to say with that post.

TLDR.

Don't feel like I missed out though.

I’m not reading all that.

KiwiFarms is a freespeech website so there is pretty much everything on there, good and bad. Things get upvoted and downvoted by the users so you can easily see whether a particularly egregious opinion is shared by multiple users or if it’s just a total edge case.
Unlike most of the internet you can use whatever words you like, which means some
people do use the absolute worst slang terms ever uttered by humankind, thankfully the novelty of being able to do that usually wears off pretty quickly.

The one thing that Josh (rightly!) doesn’t tolerate on the farms is anything relating to images of child sexual abuse, including cartoon images, that shit never counts as freespeech (and he discourages the posting of porn in general because it’s already everywhere else online so may as well keep the farms for the stuff that you can’t see everywhere else online).

If you only look at one KiwiFarms thread ever I’d suggest you pick the gender surgical interventions one, it’s a fantastic documentary of what will eventually be known as one of the worst medical scandals of all time.

Sorry , the post came out much too long. I will ask MNHQ tomorrow to edit it.

No one sensible should waste their time reading Rationalwiki.

Exhibit 1: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/J._K._Rowling

So ALL its allegations about Kiwi Farms are lies?

I know it lies a lot, but is it all lies?

Isn't it documented though that KiwiFarms horrifically harassed Chris Chan?

Chris Chan is obvs an evil rapist but isn't it wrong that KiwiFarms were stalking and harassing him for years before that?

https://www.businessinsider.com/chris-chan-saga-timeline-incest-charges-arrest-2021-8#online-trolls-have-been-making-allegations-about-chandlers-relationship-with-her-mother-for-years-2

Or is that lies?

Consistently 3 people are mentioned as having committed suicide due to KiwiFarms. One is Julie Terryberry. Other sources tho say that she killed herself bc of an abusive partner who then blamed KF. But KF had been bullying her about her mental health, hasn't they?

Bad even if it didn't relate to her suicide

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=thehill.com/policy/technology/3642685-why-anti-trans-web-forum-kiwi-farms-was-erased-from-the-internet/&ved=2ahUKEwjOr6P0sNSPAxWjdUEAHTXjJAEQFnoECCgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3JFd8GuaOlhAgou5e1Dlnx

Even US hard right Republicans seem to se issues w it : Marjorie Taylor Greene, for one.

Would you please stop spamming this thread, it's considered impolite.

If there's something in particular you want to discuss regarding KF please consider starting a new thread for discussing it there.

Well the ones about Keffals definitely are. And if they lie about one thing how can you believe anything else?

Do you not understand what KF is? It's just the last spit n sawdust bar where you can say whatever you want left on the internet. It's not a hive mind, and plans to dox, brigade or harass individuals are specifically strongly discouraged, and those trying to use KF in that way get thread blocked by the moderators and mocked by the posters.

KF has 100000 registered users.across the world, they don't agree on anything except being against child and animal abuse and for free speech. They argue vociferously amongst themselves. There are trans people, MAGA people, gun nuts, woke lefties, every kind of person.

Your trotting out of old lies about KF doesn't suggest you're posting in good faith. If you want to know what KF is, go and look at it, it's free and you don't have to be a member.

I could ask the same of Rationalwiki, given the absolute mince they publish on JKR.

That is not a source I'm prepared to give a minute's consideration too. Find something credible and actually evidenced, FFS link rather than posting a pointless wall of text, and we might have a basis for discussion.

Go on the site. Look around, read stuff. Decide for yourself.

Fucking hell some people are dull aren’t they? If you don’t like KiwiFarms what the ever loving fuck do you expect me to do about it?

I don’t like it much myself, so I don’t go there except if I think there’s something specific I can find out there that I won’t get anywhere else

and that’s why it should exist and why internet loonies are obsessed with shutting it down

Yes, there is a wealth of information about the Charlie Kirk shooting and the reactions to it, for example. Some of it is false but generally the community drill down to demonstrate what is likely to be fake news and what has substance.

I'm not going to waste my time reading that!

They keep receipts for pretty much everything.

Some people don't like that.

Could say the same thing about you tbh. And people who believe men can suddenly morph into women. How can we believe anything that comes out of their mouth?

And this is where using your (general your) brain and critical thinking comes in.

I think that pp possibly was saying that Rationalwiki was spreading the lies, rather than KF. They quoted the pp who posted the now deleted copy and paste.

Thank you, yes I was. Nobody from KF swatted Keffals, it was all a big lie to give Fong-Jones ammo to go to the isps with.

HollywoodTease · Today 03:23
TheJoyOfWriting · Today 00:21
So ALL its allegations about Kiwi Farms are lies?
I know it lies a lot, but is it all lies?

Well the ones about Keffals definitely are. And if they lie about one thing how can you believe anything else?

^ I was responding to that. No mention of the rationalwiki, only KF.