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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Antipodean fruit growers 3 - Is the Kiwi a Dodo or a Phoenix?

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Bosky · 26/05/2023 03:34

Continuation thread from Antipodean fruit growers 2 - Canary in the internet coal mine
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4632616-antipodean-fruit-growers-2-canary-in-the-internet-coal-mine

Front row seat on the seemingly eternal battle between Jersh (aka Suzi Quatro's Fat Nan) and his Merry Band of Farmers against the Transpowered Forces of Internet Censorship.

1st Thread - Antipodean fruit grower statement
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4620584-antipodean-fruit-grower-statement

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SwanandPaedo · 08/02/2024 19:14

TownGown · 08/02/2024 15:07

If I understand correctly, is the raised funding for an attempt to sue a former provider who terminated kiwifarm's service?

Talk about money to burn. Despite all the talk of so-called "free speech" there are conditions of service to follow, which Josh(kiwifarms) would have agreed to. The website has very clearly broke those terms.

Incase anyone missed it, I will leave this here:

A former host of kiwifarms was ordered by a court to pay $400,000 because of defamation, i.e. false accusations of rape against a trans woman.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/oct/23/defamation-in-the-internet-age-could-a-400000-australian-court-ruling-silence-the-notorious-online-forum-kiwi-farms

Tell me you know nothing about this case without telling me you know nothing about this case.

@TownGown you are again just parroting misinformation that you've heard without knowing anything.

SwanandPaedo · 08/02/2024 19:21

@TownGown You haven't actually read anything about the LFJ accusation have you.

Have you read LFJs own words, which were posted on Twitter, and which KF have screenshots of?

I have. I've read that whole thread. I suggest you do the same.

SwanandPaedo · 08/02/2024 19:22

And by rape I think what you mean is a "consent accident" in the words of LFJ themselves 😂

DevilinaCardigan · 08/02/2024 19:24

@TownGown where have I accused LFG of anything?

Here’s LDG own words

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DevilinaCardigan · 08/02/2024 19:34

@TownGown do you realise KF is like MN with hundreds of thousands of posters. Lots of different sections and different threads on all sorts of topics. Yes, there is a thread on LFJ but personally I’ve never read it.

TownGown · 08/02/2024 19:37

DevilinaCardigan · 08/02/2024 19:24

@TownGown where have I accused LFG of anything?

Here’s LDG own words

Do you have a link that shows a conviction?

TownGown · 08/02/2024 19:39

"where have I accused LFG of anything?"

Even if you haven't directly personally accused said individual of anything, I am aware the gender critical community is very obsessed with her and direct false accusations of rape have been thrown around a lot.

Needmoresleep · 08/02/2024 19:42

Maybe not rape, but given the post, you surely can't be a consent accident denier.

TownGown · 08/02/2024 19:43

Needmoresleep · 08/02/2024 19:42

Maybe not rape, but given the post, you surely can't be a consent accident denier.

She has been falsely accused of rape without evidence many times, by people who seem somewhat obsessed...

nothingcomestonothing · 08/02/2024 19:45

TownGown · 08/02/2024 19:37

Do you have a link that shows a conviction?

Do you have any idea of the conviction rates for rape?

Lack of conviction is most certainly not evidence a rape didn't occur. Sorry, consent accident

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Needmoresleep · 08/02/2024 19:49

So a 'consent accident' is OK?

SwanandPaedo · 08/02/2024 19:51

TownGown · 08/02/2024 19:39

"where have I accused LFG of anything?"

Even if you haven't directly personally accused said individual of anything, I am aware the gender critical community is very obsessed with her and direct false accusations of rape have been thrown around a lot.

The GC community were not interested in LFJ in the slightest - until a couple of years ago LFJ was an obscure figure that KF only vaguely heard mention of.

LFJ is a "victim" of the Streisand effect.

Basically if you attempt to illegally attack the farms you'd better make sure that your internet footprint is squeaky clean. LFJ has personally posted all manner of incriminating information about themselves all over the place, much of it isn't even sexual.

But of course being such a champion of LFJ you know all of this already.

SwanandPaedo · 08/02/2024 19:53

She has been falsely accused of rape without evidence many times, by people who seem somewhat obsessed

@TownGown by who? Who has falsely accused them of that specifically?

nothingcomestonothing · 08/02/2024 19:57

SwanandPaedo · 08/02/2024 19:53

She has been falsely accused of rape without evidence many times, by people who seem somewhat obsessed

@TownGown by who? Who has falsely accused them of that specifically?

Has LFJ been falsely accused of rape as many times as KF has been falsely accused of harassment doxxing and swatting? 🤔

SwanandPaedo · 08/02/2024 20:00

@nothingcomestonothing 😂😂😂

No way.

MacPoot · 08/02/2024 20:10

Fruityful · 08/02/2024 17:07

Well on the suspicion links to KF are not allowed here, this is the official statement Null put out the other day.

On a related note is that the provider Epik that he is taking to court has already backtracked on their statements. And according to the thread on there, Google has recently re-listed the site. Previously they had an undeclared ban on returning results to the Farms.

❤️

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DevilinaCardigan · 08/02/2024 20:12

TownGown · 08/02/2024 19:39

"where have I accused LFG of anything?"

Even if you haven't directly personally accused said individual of anything, I am aware the gender critical community is very obsessed with her and direct false accusations of rape have been thrown around a lot.

You’re the one that keeps bringing up LFJ. I don’t think we’re the ones that are obsessed.

Id never heard of them before they started attacking the Farms. And personally, I don’t know (or care) much about them. I just want to laugh at weirdos on the internet in peace.

Ironically, if LFJ and others had left the farms alone, Josh probably would have gotten bored and moved on to something else. But hats off to the stubborn little bugger 🫡

TownGown · 08/02/2024 20:14

nothingcomestonothing · 08/02/2024 19:45

Do you have any idea of the conviction rates for rape?

Lack of conviction is most certainly not evidence a rape didn't occur. Sorry, consent accident

You didn't answer my question.

My question is if the trans woman whom the gender critical community is so interested in has any convictions for what she is being accused of? And if so could you provide a news article or court link as proof?

TownGown · 08/02/2024 20:16

SwanandPaedo · 08/02/2024 19:51

The GC community were not interested in LFJ in the slightest - until a couple of years ago LFJ was an obscure figure that KF only vaguely heard mention of.

LFJ is a "victim" of the Streisand effect.

Basically if you attempt to illegally attack the farms you'd better make sure that your internet footprint is squeaky clean. LFJ has personally posted all manner of incriminating information about themselves all over the place, much of it isn't even sexual.

But of course being such a champion of LFJ you know all of this already.

What "incriminating information"? Did you pass it onto the police?

Pixiedust1234 · 08/02/2024 20:28

TownGown · 08/02/2024 20:16

What "incriminating information"? Did you pass it onto the police?

You seem to know more than us, so did you pass it on to the police?

Btw that post of yours triggered a sense of deja vu but from a different username. Either you have a hive mind with another user or you are a broken record 🤔

DevilinaCardigan · 08/02/2024 20:41
Lisa Simpson Episode 10 GIF by The Simpsons

Well that’s me totally convinced of …. something. I completely repent for all my sins of visiting that nasty-wasty website. From now on, I’ll only visit wholesome and worthy websites like Xitter and Reddit.

Please forgive me for my sins. I promise to say ten hail LFJs. <crosses self>

Repent mutherfuckers!!!
… now where did I leave my tambourine?

WomanXXWorldsOriginsofMothersofAllNations · 08/02/2024 21:36

@TownGown I think you need to be very careful - you’re the only person constantly linking LFJ to rape.

nothingcomestonothing · 08/02/2024 21:39

TownGown · 08/02/2024 20:14

You didn't answer my question.

My question is if the trans woman whom the gender critical community is so interested in has any convictions for what she is being accused of? And if so could you provide a news article or court link as proof?

LOL. The 'gender critical community', as far as I know, has little to no interest in LFJ. As PP said, LFJ is an excellent example of the Streisand effect in action.

Do you have a court link for all the things you, under various NCs, have definitively stated that KF have done? Given that Jersh now has a lawyer and a growing legal fund, you might want to be a bit more careful about the accusations you thrown around about KF with tedious regularity.

To coin a phrase, cope and seethe.

Ourladycheesusedatum · 08/02/2024 21:49

Pixiedust1234 · 08/02/2024 17:29

Oh bloody hell....😱

I've just put kiwifarms into google and it's linked to the actual farm! It's alive!! No typing the .whatever after it, just plain and simple "kiwi farms"

Sqqqqquuuuuueeeee

I'm back on it now. My little home from home. Gonna take forever to catch up with all those that I watch.

Super happy, long may this continue.

Ourladycheesusedatum · 08/02/2024 21:52

TownGown · 08/02/2024 19:43

She has been falsely accused of rape without evidence many times, by people who seem somewhat obsessed...

Errrr "many times"

I mean I know a few men in my life, they really dont get accused of rape "many times "

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