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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Nancy Kelly wants us to support this man's fight to play rugby with women.

298 replies

DerekFaker · 16/05/2023 11:03

Mask off. And replies off as well.

"If you can, support @tigergirl_70 in her fight for an inclusive rugby game #MakeSportEveronesGame"

https://twitter.com/Nancy_M_K/status/1657427311036170242?t=Kt2hAR8OUgKDmG-twWbz5Q&s=19

Nancy Kelly wants us to support this man's fight to play rugby with women.
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Mollyollydolly · 16/05/2023 13:17

I've been around rugby all my life, know a couple of people who suffered life changing injuries, one who died back in the 80s from a neck injury. Was at my local rugby club at Christmas for the Carol Concert, it used to be so male dominated, now they have successful women's team. Quite a few of the players are lesbians, they were snogging at the Christmas party .. it was lovely to see, a real sea change in the last generation.

If I said what I thought about Nancy I'd get banned. A traitor to women, a traitor to lesbians, and thick as mince.

How do Stonewall still have a seat at the table. HOW?

WickedSerious · 16/05/2023 13:21

Redebs · 16/05/2023 12:59

But they might hurt him and where's the fun in that when he could be hurting girls and making them cry?

I never thought of that.

This situation appears to be much more complicated and nuanced than I realised.

TooOldForThisNonsense · 16/05/2023 13:24

Absolutely insane.

who could look at that individual built like a brick shithouse and think that females are not at serious risk should they play rugby with the individual?

ArabeIIaScott · 16/05/2023 13:26

These are all direct quotes from Julie's blog. Apologies in advance that some of them are offensive. This is who Nancy Kelley is urging people to support in playing rugby with women.

'I read on one of the websites that a good way to cross-dress in society was to use conventional dress-up opportunities. As Halloween was just around the corner, I decided to go to a party as my ex-wife, the scariest monster I know! I didn’t look great, but then neither does my ex-wife!'

...

'I do get frustrated with the “fairy” type of gay person though. Having never felt the need to strut around the planet affirming my hetero-sexuality, I see no need for people to strut around the world affirming their homo-sexuality. To me the “fairies” also fit into my swinging dick category. They just swing it a different way!'

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'I was about 8, that, during school holidays I would dress in my sisters’ clothes and underwear. I loved the softness and it made me feel something deeply emotional inside, like this is how I was meant to be.'

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'while I believe my mother and sisters were aware of my issue, we never discussed it and they kind of tolerated it. My step-mother however was less charitable, although she had great clothes and underwear!'

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'I was so jealous, not resentful though (ok, maybe sometimes!) of the way girls were able to dress. I loved the idea of being able to wear make-up, mini-skirts, long hair, soft underwear, bras, camisoles and nighties. It drove me crazy.'

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'I enjoyed, and still enjoy, hetero-sex, but realized from the outset that I always wished to be on the other side. Oh, to be able to wear sexy negligees, panties, all those toys and to be able to multiple orgasm! Its just not fair damn it 🙂'

https://tigergirl.uk/2010/06/

June 2010 – Julie-Anne's Blog

5 posts published by Julie during June 2010

https://tigergirl.uk/2010/06

piedbeauty · 16/05/2023 13:28

How can people support this with a straight face??! FFS.

ArabeIIaScott · 16/05/2023 13:31

'My wife hates wearing standard cotton hi-cuts and loves thongs and silky lacy underwear. Conversely, my ex-wife, loves the cotton hi-cuts and hates thongs, g-strings and lacy underwear. Go figure! My wife likes lace blouses, skirts and high heels, my ex tee-shirts, pants and flat shoes. I do suspect my ex is somewhat orientated to the lesbian side of the fence :-)!'

https://tigergirl.uk/2010/07/

July 2010 – Julie-Anne's Blog

2 posts published by Julie during July 2010

https://tigergirl.uk/2010/07

Whaeanui · 16/05/2023 13:36

Oh that is so gross!

HermioneWeasley · 16/05/2023 13:36

Please let him waste his money on a very public challenge- nothing peaks the general public like massive blokes wanting to play women’s sports

beguilingeyes · 16/05/2023 13:37

One of my sporting heroes, Ryan Jones, who captained Wales to three Grand slams now has early onset dementia at 41 from the game.
Rugby is a dangerous game.

Apollo441 · 16/05/2023 13:40

Can I just say, at the risk of a deletion for stating the truth, isn't this a classic AGP?

SinnerBoy · 16/05/2023 13:41

Crikey, he's a horrible, horrible piece of work, isn't he? I can think of a more appropriate animal based nickname for him:

Bully Boy.

I honestly can't see how Nancy Kelly can look in the mirror, unless she's actually a psychopath.

ArabeIIaScott · 16/05/2023 13:41

I feel for his sisters, mother, and step mother.

'My cross-dressing got worse as I would steal my friends’ sisters underwear and step-mother’s. My step-mother tried to deal with this by locking her dressing room, which I got around by stealing and copying a key.'

https://tigergirl.uk/2010/06/

June 2010 – Julie-Anne's Blog

5 posts published by Julie during June 2010

https://tigergirl.uk/2010/06

HathorsFigTree · 16/05/2023 13:42

@Apollo441 … I think to some, a woman is defined by an attraction to certain types of underwear, rather than by chromosomes.

HathorsFigTree · 16/05/2023 13:43

stealing and copying a key

Wow. That’s some serious calculated transgression there. Getting keys cut. 😮

Rightsraptor · 16/05/2023 13:44

From time to time I examine my conscience, especially about the gender woo, to reaffirm that I am indeed on the right side. I'm confident that I am.

So I wonder what it takes for someone such as Nancy Kelley to take the stance she does on this. She's sold her soul to the devil. I cannot fathom what the incentive could be; has she, like Ruth Hunt before her, been promoted elevation to the House of Lords? Is that what it takes?

Because, sure as eggs are eggs, that would not sway me one iota towards the gender woo. Is she so easily bought? Or can she, a lesbian, genuinely not see the harms she's causing women and girls?

ArabeIIaScott · 16/05/2023 13:45

Presumably Nancy is convinced by the lesbians-as-underwear-preference arguments.

SigourneyHoward · 16/05/2023 13:48

urgh, I feel all scritchy scratchy after some of those blog excerpts

Collidascope · 16/05/2023 13:56

"In July 2022, the RFU essentially decided to ban all trans women & girls from playing rugby at all levels. This meant I was suddenly unable to play the game I have loved my whole life, simply because I am a trans woman."

You're 52, mate. The reason you've been able to play for this long is exactly because you're a transwoman inserting yourself into a team of young actual women.

RFU

https://www.englandrugby.com/news/article/rfu-council-votes-in-favour-of-change-to-gender-participation-policy

Ohyeahyousay · 16/05/2023 14:00

illiterato · 16/05/2023 11:18

Girls and boys are not allowed to play together in rugby union after U11., an RFU rule which I fully support as a parent of both a ds and a dd who play rugby. There have also been other rule changes to improve safety (tackle height will be lowered next season in all but top level rugby to reduce head injuries/ flip tackles) and a mandatory 21 day rest after concussions. I cannot see the RFU changing the rules to allow trans women to play women's rugby. It's completely inconsistent with the direction of travel re. safety/injury prevention.

As another rugby parent, this is spot on.
The sport is working really hard to improve safety. We are all deeply saddened by the lifelong brain injuries some of the last generation of players have now developed.

Allowing anybody, whether they call themselves trans or not, to play in an inappropriate sex or age category is totally against the reforms the sport is making and would be the death knell for rugby (and for the unfortunate women and girls who happened to come up against these trans-identifying blokes).

senua · 16/05/2023 14:05

This meant I was suddenly unable to play the game I have loved my whole life, simply because I am a trans woman
Untrue. Nobody is banned from Rugby. They are simply required to play with/against the same sex to ensure "fair competition and safety".
How can anyone possibly argue against that? - "I demand the right to have an unfair advantage and be a danger to others!"

Helleofabore · 16/05/2023 14:12

ArabeIIaScott · 16/05/2023 13:41

I feel for his sisters, mother, and step mother.

'My cross-dressing got worse as I would steal my friends’ sisters underwear and step-mother’s. My step-mother tried to deal with this by locking her dressing room, which I got around by stealing and copying a key.'

https://tigergirl.uk/2010/06/

Remarkable! This individual knows no boundaries at all!

Chersfrozenface · 16/05/2023 14:15

How is the CrowdJustice grift appeal going, BTW?

I CBA to look.

Cosmosforbreakfast · 16/05/2023 14:17

we need to be dragged kicking and screaming to accept TW in the sport

Why are we always threatened with violence when we object to the danger these men present to women?

RealityFan · 16/05/2023 14:19

Chersfrozenface · 16/05/2023 14:15

How is the CrowdJustice grift appeal going, BTW?

I CBA to look.

100 people have donated nearly £65 each.

Whatever happened to the cost of living crisis?

ArabeIIaScott · 16/05/2023 14:19

Helleofabore · 16/05/2023 14:12

Remarkable! This individual knows no boundaries at all!

They know the boundaries, they are just very determined to overcome them.

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