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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Nancy Kelly wants us to support this man's fight to play rugby with women.

298 replies

DerekFaker · 16/05/2023 11:03

Mask off. And replies off as well.

"If you can, support @tigergirl_70 in her fight for an inclusive rugby game #MakeSportEveronesGame"

https://twitter.com/Nancy_M_K/status/1657427311036170242?t=Kt2hAR8OUgKDmG-twWbz5Q&s=19

Nancy Kelly wants us to support this man's fight to play rugby with women.
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FannyCann · 18/05/2023 09:24

Just checking the crowdfunder.
Looks like unkind comments have been removed. I wonder if the donations from those who welcome the chance to thrash this out in court have been refunded.

Chersfrozenface · 18/05/2023 09:43

If this case succeeds in creating a "case by case" rule based on individuals and not situations*, then rugby organisations that do let transwomen play women's rugby will have to have all female players sign a disclaimer similar to that which World Rugby demands of transgender men who play men's rugby.

Something like:

"Written acknowledgement and acceptance by the player of the associated risks of playing contact rugby with transgender women who are biologically male and statistically likely to be stronger, faster and heavier than them, given the predictions this combination of variables makes for injury risk".

*IANAL but I've read that in the Equality Act "case by case" refers to situations not individuals, so that there can be blanket exceptions applicable to a group.

rhywlodes · 18/05/2023 09:46

I made one of the £5 donations and a comment - have just checked bank balance and there's no trace of it having even gone out...

FannyCann · 18/05/2023 09:57

Can you put a block on the payment @rhywlodes just incase they want to take it after removing your comment?

Well done btw, it was very entertaining watching the comments yesterday.

rhywlodes · 18/05/2023 10:27

Good idea, @FannyCann , thanks. Maybe I should contact crowd justice to ask why they took comments down. They were, after all, supportive of the case!

JanesLittleGirl · 18/05/2023 13:48

ArabeIIaScott · 16/05/2023 21:55

Yes, if you wear frilly lacy pants you are a lady. And if you like other people in frilly lacy pants you are a lesbian.

No, that's not it.

If you like sensible pants you are a lesbian. And if you like people in fancy pants you are a lady! I think that's it!

Is it possible that Tigger's understanding of the relationship between choice of underwear and sexuality is just a load of bigoted bollocks?

ArabeIIaScott · 18/05/2023 13:55

That is a possibility, Janes. A distinct possibility.

literalviolence · 18/05/2023 14:22

FannyCann · 18/05/2023 09:24

Just checking the crowdfunder.
Looks like unkind comments have been removed. I wonder if the donations from those who welcome the chance to thrash this out in court have been refunded.

Why is the crowd funder itself still up then? Its very unkind to women.

ResisterRex · 18/05/2023 15:24

FannyCann · 18/05/2023 09:24

Just checking the crowdfunder.
Looks like unkind comments have been removed. I wonder if the donations from those who welcome the chance to thrash this out in court have been refunded.

There's an archive and a wayback page. But only at a certain point in time.

I do recall seeing a name on there who - if it's genuinely the person the name aligned to - might bring a freedom of speech case against crowdfunder for deletion.

Which absolutely would not mean a Streisand Effect at all. Oh no.

FannyCann · 18/05/2023 15:33

I don't think you could do an FOI to crowd justice as they only apply to public bodies sadly. Otherwise Mermaids and Stonewall would be sinking under the weight of them.
Some sort of public challenge would be very delicious though.

ResisterRex · 18/05/2023 15:38

It certainly provides a good Sunday article and reason to revisit Allison Bailey's experience with crowdfunding and censorship.

1dayatatime · 18/05/2023 21:24

@JanesLittleGirl

"Is it possible that Tigger's understanding of the relationship between choice of underwear and sexuality is just a load of bigoted bollocks?"

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Is there a cut chart available showing which personal choice of underwear correlates to which sexuality?

ZeldaFighter · 18/05/2023 21:47

1dayatatime · 18/05/2023 21:24

@JanesLittleGirl

"Is it possible that Tigger's understanding of the relationship between choice of underwear and sexuality is just a load of bigoted bollocks?"

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Is there a cut chart available showing which personal choice of underwear correlates to which sexuality?

I'm a straight married woman so obviously the more sexless the underwear, the better!

I can assure you that Julie would not bother getting a key cut to get at my pants!!!!

(Too soon? I doubt the stepmother is laughing yet 😞)

CurtainsWaft · 19/05/2023 12:42

Well. The transwomen in women's rugby campaign set up by Curtiss is no longer on the Crowd Justice website.

I wonder what Curtiss's next move will be?

He currently has a 'Terf tears' mug on product on sale on Insta - just £25 a go. His previous sales campaign was the rugby training shirt with the Roses emblem on it and blood stain imagery. He certainly understands the gentle art of persuasion.

Chersfrozenface · 19/05/2023 12:47

I wonder what Curtiss's next move will be?

Whingeing about being "hounded off CrowdJustice"?

GailBlancheViola · 19/05/2023 12:55

Well. The transwomen in women's rugby campaign set up by Curtiss is no longer on the Crowd Justice website.

Interesting.

zibzibara · 19/05/2023 12:58

Does that mean all pledges will be refunded?

Helleofabore · 19/05/2023 13:12

Hounded off? We were desperate to help this person to reach for justice!

They simply cannot lie straight in bed.

GailBlancheViola · 19/05/2023 13:42

They simply cannot lie straight in bed.

That applies to one hell of a lot of them, it's rapidly becoming a defining feature.

WickedSerious · 19/05/2023 13:44

ZeldaFighter · 18/05/2023 21:47

I'm a straight married woman so obviously the more sexless the underwear, the better!

I can assure you that Julie would not bother getting a key cut to get at my pants!!!!

(Too soon? I doubt the stepmother is laughing yet 😞)

Are they stretchy pants?

ResisterRex · 19/05/2023 13:55

Who wants to place bets on a puff piece in the Graun or from the dying embers of Vice, featuring DARVO?

GailBlancheViola · 19/05/2023 13:57

Perhaps Nancy Kelley will update us seeing as NK was so keen to promote the cause?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/05/2023 10:27

Who wants to place bets on a puff piece in the Graun or from the dying embers of Vice, featuring DARVO?

Oh yes, surely a job for Ben Hunte!

SinnerBoy · 20/05/2023 12:43

@ZeldaFighter

I'm a straight married woman so obviously the more sexless the underwear, the better!

He Tigger says that Tigger's a lesbian, has a girlfriend, but accuses they's c ex wife of being a lesbian, in a derogatory way.

I mean, how on Earth are we supposed to unpick that?

SockGoddess · 20/05/2023 13:28

He Tigger says that Tigger's a lesbian, has a girlfriend, but accuses they's c ex wife of being a lesbian, in a derogatory way.

I guess the wring kind of lesbian is the boring gender-nonconforming, butch type especially if they don't think men can be women. Bad lesbians.

The good type is the men's fantasy type that looks feminine, has pillow fights, features in porn for men, and is happy to shag men. Fantasy lesbians created by men, for men.

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