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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Judy Blume & Dylan Mulvaney

231 replies

BabyofMine · 12/05/2023 22:21

I think I just had some sort of revelation.
I’m actually furious. Maybe I’m overreacting but Judy Blume wrote a book called Are you There God? It’s me, Margaret in the 70s. My myself, and I bet many others of my era, it was the first time I ever read a book that depicted a girl going through puberty like me. It made me less afraid of periods, and growing breasts which I did precociously. It meant so much to me.

So there is a film adaptation coming out and I was ecstatic when I saw the news.

Just seen the first piece of promo apart from the trailer that I have come across - TikTok suggested it to me - and it’s a cosy little chat between Judy Blume the author and Dylan Mulvaney. Talking about what it’s like to be a girl, grow breasts and such…
Really, Judy fucking Blume? Why of all people would you choose to promote the movie, which I would presume would have a target audience of preteen and teen girls, with a person that will never go through female puberty, will never bleed between their legs like a girl, never has to worry about buying sanitary products, or a million other things girls worry about.

I’m sure they have their own many and varied things to worry about, and lots of experiences that might be great to share with their audience, but really?

I just feel like I’ve been pissed on from a great height. I may well be overreacting - forgive me, I’m due on.

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Kerfuffler · 12/05/2023 22:24

Christ.

BettyFilous · 12/05/2023 22:27

It’s penance for being warm and respectful towards JKR in a recent interview. Dylan Mulvaney: hair shirt, 2023-style.

Ingenieur · 12/05/2023 22:29

Judy came out in wholehearted support of JKR a few months back, then overnight was forced to give a humiliating retraction presumably at the request of the producers of the movie.

I wonder if this is part of the damage limitation from that...

KiwiMum2023 · 12/05/2023 22:30

So disappointing

BabyofMine · 12/05/2023 22:32

I never knew about the JKR link. Sounds like a good bit of PR back-pedalling but honestly it just infuriated me so much. Of all the people they could have chosen!

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CordyLines · 12/05/2023 22:33

I'd rather be penniless than even sit in the same room as that mysoginistic piss taker of real women.

My post will prob be deleted, I don't care he is an abomination. The power of trans is just bewildering.

Badgeringabout · 12/05/2023 22:37

She is a coward and a fool.

KalimbaMoon · 12/05/2023 22:42

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4786010-judy-blume-stands-with-jk-rowling

Agree it must be penance for standing with JK Rowling and then being forced into a humiliating climbdown. She’s been to confession and now she’s doing her Hail Marys (via Dylan). It is absolutely ridiculous that a story about female puberty would be of any relevance to Dylan.

Judy Blume stands with JK Rowling. | Mumsnet

Thank fuck… ’“And I love her,” Blume immediately interjects. “I am behind her 100 per cent as I watch from afar.” Blume is referring to the abuse Row...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4786010-judy-blume-stands-with-jk-rowling

Ifulikepinacoladas · 12/05/2023 22:45

Please say you're joking....this shit makes me want to cry..and get very angry 😩

ArabeIIaScott · 12/05/2023 22:47

She's back from the gulag, then? And making hostage videos. Very sad.

ArabeIIaScott · 12/05/2023 22:48

Maybe Dylan would like the title role in the film.

Redebs · 12/05/2023 22:50

CordyLines · 12/05/2023 22:33

I'd rather be penniless than even sit in the same room as that mysoginistic piss taker of real women.

My post will prob be deleted, I don't care he is an abomination. The power of trans is just bewildering.

You're absolutely right

ArabeIIaScott · 12/05/2023 22:50

MrsJamin · 12/05/2023 22:48

Why the FUCK does this twenty something male take such an interest in fucking sanitary products?

Grumpigal · 12/05/2023 22:53

FFS

I saw the film recently and really enjoyed it (although of course not a patch on the book, which hold so much value to many, many women).

Fuming that I went to see it now. Wish I hadn’t.

What the fuck would they know about female puberty?!?!!!

or being socialised as a girl?

Pit aside the arguments over definitions of a woman for one second, surely NO ONE can actually believe DM has any insight to offer on female puberty? He wasn’t fucking there.
DM literally has zero personal experience of this subject.

Its unbelievable. Thought JB would have more guts tbh

Pinana · 12/05/2023 22:53

Ugh, what a pathetic handmaiden. It'll definitely be part of a grovelling apology to make amends for the crime of standing up for JKR.

Dylan Mulvaney is the last person teenage girls should be looking to as a bloody role model. 🤬

alwaysandforevernow · 12/05/2023 22:53

Had planned to see this at the cinema but definitely won't now.

Walkingtheplank · 12/05/2023 22:55

Oh Judy Blume.
What a betrayal.
She can't need the money that much.

MrsJamin · 12/05/2023 22:56

ArabeIIaScott · 12/05/2023 22:50

Why the FUCK does this twenty something male take such an interest in fucking sanitary products?

🚩🚩🚩

RaininSummer · 12/05/2023 22:58

I am sad about that now I know. I watched a film about Judy bloom last week. She really was ahead of her time then.

BreadInCaptivity · 12/05/2023 23:01

I don't understand it.

Much like JKR, Blume is pretty much non cancellable. Her legacy is just too big.

I'd honestly hope JKR's stance would embolden other heavyweights.

Every time I feel we make progress, we encounter another step back.

Dennis Kavanaugh spoke about the “fall of the gender creed” in three stages: “The flight of the cowards. The howl of the zealots. The prosecution of the monsters.”
As I start to see the "howl" I see positive forward momentum, only to be dragged back by another "flight".

The evidence for gender affirming care for children is demonstrably poor.

It's all in plain sight.

Yet here we are with a leading children's author, cosying up to a man pretending to be a girl for $$$, who attracts a large fan base of impressionable young girls (Blume's target audience) without reference to the obvious fact that whilst one spent their work life centring children's reality and promoting self acceptance whilst the other centres adult fantasy and promotes nothing beyond himself.

Honestly Judy - you've fucked me right off.

TullyHart · 12/05/2023 23:02

Is this for real, actual Judy Blume spoke to actual Dylan Mulvaney about the premise of being a teenage girl navigating puberty? FFS I wanted to take teen DD to see this, she's going through puberty and finds it all so embarrassing, I was hoping the film might help her see that even the embarrassment is normal. Eurgh, now I'm conflicted. Take her to potentially ease her path to adulthood a bit but in doing so support an industry that thinks Dylan is a genuine woman as opposed to a mocking piss take of womankind.

ArabeIIaScott · 12/05/2023 23:03

Dylan Mulvaney asks JB for advice for someone 'new in their womanhood'.

Envy
Mrsjayy · 12/05/2023 23:04

Oh no that's horrific just why !

Mrsjayy · 12/05/2023 23:06

That is some weird fantasy fetish shit going on isn't if. Dylan identifys as a young girl,despite being 27 years old !