Video of Starbucks employee in UK branch

[FisherthemsFriend]

https://twitter.com/RupertMyers/status/1655477645184835586

It’s not clear what the customer said, it’s presumed she misgenders the employee as he calls her transphobic. He calls her Karen and then either grabs the phone or the person who’s filming.

Can we start calling then 'the clap brigade'?

One thing I don't get is that it is common for gay men to call each other 'her' and 'she' so how do they survive in gay clubs?

I mean if a gay man says to someone, "She's funny her" he is using 'her' but in the sense of the trans woman being a man.

I do not think that having your cock chopped off is quite the sign that someone is ‘deadly serious’ .

Those people don’t stop being male and it is cruel to set the standard at having surgery to have a penis inverted into a forced pelvic cavity as some kind of signal that they are not male. They are male. Every day of their life.

It is ‘toxic’ because some bright spark started to tell these male people that pumping themselves with hormones at levels not meant for their body, and having artificial cavities that require daily treatment will change their sex. That all ‘women’ are, are hormones and an orifice to fuck.

The fact that people think that chopping someone’s cock off makes these males any different from the other males demanding to be seen as women to the detriment of others is concerning. It is harmful for those male people, and it is harmful to women and children.

No male person, no matter how dedicated they are can become even a little bit more ‘female’ than other males.

This video also shows that women are still being abused by violent, aggressive male people. The number of posters who try to make out this thread is about hating a group. WTAF!

This thread is about the abuse of a woman by a male who felt entitled to abuse her. Did this male assault her removing her bodily from the store?

The ‘why’ this particular male felt entitled to do this needs to be evaluated. Only a fool would think it does not need to be evaluated. Why did this male feel so entitled to act in the way they did? Because support groups, and lobby groups, even MPs are all telling a group of people that they should feel entitled to have their gender fully affirmed every minute of the day and by every person on earth. And because a group of people believe that others will correctly identify their gender vs their sex, because ‘everyone tells them they pass’.

No. No amount of drugs and surgeries will move a male further towards changing sex to be closer to ‘female’.

These same people are getting "ladies and gentlemen" removed from public service announcements

Just to point out for those skimming, that's not just "these same people", in a vague hand-wavey sense.

The article describes how that was initiated by the infamous "Aimee" Challenor.

https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/the-challenor-scandal-is-not-over

A post-op transsexual who was born male still went through puberty as a male. They’re stronger and bigger but they also have the entitlement and attitudes of men. And that’s why I don’t want them in women-only spaces, even if they have had their dick removed.

These same people are getting "ladies and gentlemen" removed from public service announcements.

They're not ladies and they're certainly not gentlemen. Well, men, yes. But not gentlemen.

We need to get Mrs Doyle in guessing the name on the badge….Fr Todd Unctious.

Ime that tends to be only some gay men and they tend to be older gay men. Plenty don't do this at all. The idea that being gay somehow means a man is feminine rather than masculine is outdated and not helpful.

I would say they've got the clap.

@justiceforwoolworths

Your post was a wonderful example of the lengths that people go to in attempting to distract people from this abusive male staff member.

Do you realise not once did you acknowledge the fact that a woman was being abused, that from their family’s account had her belongings tipped over and out, and was physically removed from the store after this. Her partner was also assaulted for filming the incident.

In your post, you never once acknowledged that this was male violence against women and children with the extra layer that this male felt justified in doing so!

You dismissed the action as just one bad person. No! You totally miss the point that a group of males have somehow believed they are exonerated from their abuse of women because they have a special status. And you are feeding into that belief from reading your post.

Considering another woman, one campaigning for single sex carers for those who need them, has faced weeks of targeted threats on line and even a pornographic image sent to her from an Ambulance medic, who also believed they were justified. That male is also often on the media as a prominent spokesperson for trans people.

Plus just over a week ago, a women’s rally was protested using violence and intimidation. Did you see how many police personnel were there to protect women? And at least one woman was assaulted. Fuck! There were people turning up to protest because they were told that the women were fucking violent!!! The absolute lies that are being told is horrendous!

And that was just two of the many abuses of women by this particular group each week. Perhaps if there are more and more incidents being publicised, do you not think the group need to start working out why these events are happening?

Rather than trying to minimise them, or trying to distract from the fact they ARE happening? And rather continuing to say it is just ‘one’ bad person?

Or do you feel that the behaviour of these male people should be hidden behind people posting accusations of hatred and diminishing what took place to attempt to shame others into silence?

How much longer do you think you and others in society can continue to do that? And at what point do groups such as Stonewall and individuals take responsibility for not calling out violent behaviour and allowing disinformation to be spread?

n+1?

(And we know that Stonewall think people are justified to be ‘fighting back’ because one of their spokespeople told us under oath.)

Maybe it's Chris - after his pet sheep?

' Don't look at me Chris! '

Around forty eight by the sound of it.

I am short sighted and rarely attempt to read name badges. No Starbucks for me. Too dangerous.

Wasn't it some lady in waiting who got huge clap back after a royal event for moving someone's hair in order to read her name badge and then asking where she was from. The person questioned wearing some elaborate African dress.

So easy to get things wrong.

As far as I am concerned (Cherries supporter) they are all Scummers, expect for Vanessa who is from the Isle of Wight. Mind the gap etc....

IIRC it was never meant to indicate a man was actually feminine anyway, it was to indicate that the man with a ‘she’ pronoun were a friend and not a lover or potential lover?

so ‘meet my friend, she’s a right laugh’ meant, ‘meet my friend, and they are actually a platonic friend, not my lover, he’s a right laugh’.

Nowadays coded language isn’t necessary, which is a great thing for equality but perhaps a bit of a shame for subculture!

It was really common in the pub I used to go to, the only men referred to as 'him' were the straight ones.

The landlord was also called 'mother'.

It's a shame it closed.

Interesting, I didn't knew that. And I'm quite fond of a bit of polari. Makes sense tho.

Learn BSL, it has 'gay sign variation' which is a visual form of Polari.

My reservations about this are that I don't want children told that if they have serious, difficult and risky surgery they can 'change sex'. It's plastic surgery, cosmetic, and will leave them with permanent after effects, not least sterility.

What's the difference between this and BIDD, where someone develops a determination to remove other healthy body parts? Doctors have been struck off for amputating legs for people with BIDD. I don't understand why genitals are permitted.

I would never even have noticed any name badge: I never do unless there's a problem and I feel a 'Karen' moment coming on.

I have enough trouble trying to read the menu, far away on the back wall in tiny writing, to ever pay any heed to what the server might be wearing.

Don't know about you, but if I stop for a coffee somewhere it's because I want an oasis of calm for a while. If I have to perform to the staff's satisfaction I simply won't go.

Well someone ALWAYS has to lower the tone.

(Horrified of Manchester)

Wont somebody think of the children.

This is a fairly common viewpoint imo. In that removing your penis would seem to indicate a certain level of commitment, at the very least.

But, I've come to realise that whether that might be true or not, it doesn't guarantee the said owner of the penis behaves any differently to any other aggressive, entitled male. (There's a very well known post op transwoman who tramples women's boundaries whenever they can.)

And, worryingly, penis removal has become a fetish. The guidelines from WPATH included a link (since deleted) to a eunuch fetish site. Men are paying to watch - and have - castration surgery. They find it arousing.

But, more importantly, a) women have no way of knowing if a man is post op and b) it's irrelevant. Many women won't stop, cant stop, being intimidated by a man deliberately overriding their boundaries just because they may be post op.

In reality it would seem a commitment to surgery isnt that often accompanied by a corresponding decrease in entitlement or empathy.

Interesting again!

Do you think soldiers who have had their genitals blown off by a land mine are male?

I wish I could find the report but it was years ago; sex offenders who are unable to use their penis to rape women (due to medication or impotence, but no reason to suggest this doesn’t also apply to those who have had them surgically removed) are even more violent towards women. It was one of the reasons ‘chemical castration’ (puberty blockers) was stopped in some prisons in the USA.

These places are obsessed with our names, to write on the cups.

And now we have to be obsessed with their names. Defacto, their gender.

How about you serve us some coffee, for cash, stop it with the fake bonhommie personal service, and the ultra violence when all this details.

Could ya just do that?

I remember something like that too - something about how lack of working genitals resulted in rapists committing sexual assault via penetration with an object, so the criminality remained even when the sexual function was gone?