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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Video of Starbucks employee in UK branch

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FisherthemsFriend · 08/05/2023 11:11

https://twitter.com/RupertMyers/status/1655477645184835586

It’s not clear what the customer said, it’s presumed she misgenders the employee as he calls her transphobic. He calls her Karen and then either grabs the phone or the person who’s filming.

https://twitter.com/RupertMyers/status/1655477645184835586

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StarbucksKaren · 09/05/2023 22:49

Usedtobeuser76538 · 09/05/2023 22:28

Presumably Person Behind the Till had already asked Vanessa from Cowes her name for the sticker on the cup before VTPHP even got involved. VTPHP had no excuse to call Vanessa from Cowes Karen.

Excellent point @Usedtobeuser76538 no excuse to use the name Karen as a slur anywhere - but even less so in a cafe that takes such trouble over customer’s and employee’s names.

If VTPHP deliberately ignored Vanessa’s name in favour of slur - well that that must be worse than literal violence, surely, in they’s ideology?

AutumnCrow · 09/05/2023 22:49

Rightsraptor · 09/05/2023 22:43

@Usedtobeuser76538 you must know that branch well. I haven't darkened Starbucks' door for many years (initially because the coffee was crap, then they got involved in all the trans stuff) but is there any particular reason why that branch seems have a disproportionate (compared to the general population) number of umbrella folk? If it was Brighton I could understand it. But Southampton ferry terminal?

It's reasonably close to Solent University which has quite a lot of lecturers on its books whose output is informed by Queer Theory.

QuintanaRoo · 09/05/2023 22:51

Dementor?

Waitwhat23 · 09/05/2023 22:57

Ooh, ooh, Honeydukes?

WarningToTheCurious · 09/05/2023 22:59

I’m hoping that JKR at least came up with Dickweed as a name.

ArabeIIaScott · 09/05/2023 23:00

Muggle?
Expelliarmus?
Crucio?

ArabeIIaScott · 09/05/2023 23:01

Hippogriff? Please let it be Hippogriff.

Usedtobeuser76538 · 09/05/2023 23:01

The Daily Mail wants people to snitch and name them, so I'm sure someone will soon. Nobody here has got it yet. Would people really stand in a field yelling Honeydukes at a dog?

FisherthemsFriend · 09/05/2023 23:03

But Southampton ferry terminal?

Don’t be so heteronormative. Nowt as queer as folk ferries.

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AutumnCrow · 09/05/2023 23:03

Peeves

ArabeIIaScott · 09/05/2023 23:03

Not Hippogriff? 😟 Can we not just say it is?

Rightsraptor · 09/05/2023 23:04

Thanks, @AutumnCrow. It's starting to make sense now. Well, not actually make sense because it's intrinsically nonsense, but you know what I mean.

Rightsraptor · 09/05/2023 23:07

Mind you, @StarbucksKaren, we could all start going into Starbucks and giving our name as 'Karen'. That'd be fun.

AutumnCrow · 09/05/2023 23:09

Tonks
Riddle
Muggle
Newt
Skeeter

(This is like the Baby Names thread! 'I need a sibling name for Sadducee')

howdoesatoastermaketoast · 09/05/2023 23:12

@Usedtobeuser76538 "VTPHP was not referred to as a lady at any point"

very true - Until IW got involved, India is ignoring VTPHP's actual gender identity and preferred pronouns and incorrectly calling them a "trans woman" and a "she"

FlirtsWithRhinos · 09/05/2023 23:12

Usedtobeuser76538 · 09/05/2023 22:13

There are two NBPs involved. The first one on the till looks female but has "they" on their badge. They told Vanessa from Cowes that she couldn't pay with cash.

Very Tall Pink Haired Person (VTPHP) who also prefers to be called "they" kicked off as their colleague had been misgendered by Vanessa from Cowes. VTPHP was not referred to as a lady at any point.

VTPHP was not referred to as a lady at any point.

Except by HotDiggety in their rush to demonstrate ther genderist credentials 🤣

TutiFrutti · 09/05/2023 23:14

Katherine1985 · 09/05/2023 16:09

Yesss everyone do this!! All women choose to be called Karen until the slur dissolves??

I don’t like Starbucks either @TutiFrutti so unfortunately I can’t. But I’ll do it elsewhere if it helps

@Katherine1985
I'm definitely going to do this, all hail to the Karen 🙌🏻

Usedtobeuser76538 · 09/05/2023 23:22

But would I need to show photo ID at Town Quay or get thrown out without my soya caramel macciato blond roast ?

StarbucksKaren · 09/05/2023 23:23

Rightsraptor · 09/05/2023 23:07

Mind you, @StarbucksKaren, we could all start going into Starbucks and giving our name as 'Karen'. That'd be fun.

Absolutely @Rightsraptor we totally should. It’d be fun and a way of honouring Vanessa - she who wasn’t to be shut down by seal clapping or deterred by a public Karening.

Yes if every woman’s Starbucks cup has Karen on it, any woman can defend herself or speak up if needed without fear of being called Karen because we all are …..

Waitwhat23 · 09/05/2023 23:23

Usedtobeuser76538 · 09/05/2023 23:01

The Daily Mail wants people to snitch and name them, so I'm sure someone will soon. Nobody here has got it yet. Would people really stand in a field yelling Honeydukes at a dog?

I would. But then my cat is called something you wouldn't associate as a cat name.

Thinking about it, Honeydukes would be a great name for a horse.

bd67thSaysReinstateLangCleg · 09/05/2023 23:29

Voldemort?

Joking aside, please don't name him if you know who he is. Public speculation about the events along with his name could be argued as being prejudicial to a fair trial, should he end up in court for criminal damage and assault.

Leftoverssandwich · 09/05/2023 23:33

I reckon it’s Crookshanks and I will not be argued with.

TheSilveryPussycat · 09/05/2023 23:38

Slightly off topic, but about 15 years ago I was at a conference, and the speaker took questions from the audience at the end of his presentation. "Yes, the lady over there" he said, inviting the first person to ask a question. To which he got a huge rant from the woman, tearing him off a strip for referring to her as a "lady." What was he supposed to say? "The woman over there" somehow sounds too blunt, but why? We teach our children that "lady" is the polite form of reference - we say "give the money to the lady" if we let them do the paying in a shop, for example.

Since then, Little Britain has added overtones to the word Hmm

An added layer in this scenario, perhaps?

Usedtobeuser76538 · 09/05/2023 23:39

I think I agree with @Waitwhat23 on Honeydukes for a horse.

Voldemort is more of a hamster name.

anunlikelyseahorse · 09/05/2023 23:43

ArcaneWireless · 09/05/2023 18:28

@anunlikelyseahorse

1979….

A little glimpse into the future there. Who knew?

Perhaps I should identify as a very naughty boy and have done with it.

ArcaneWireless cool user name btw.
It's funny I've always loved the film, watch it numerous times, but never really honed in on that scene, then watched it more recently and wondered how the TRAs haven't demanded for Reg's (played by John Cleese) line to be cut. I always thought the Pythons were well before their time!

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