Time to dust off your Labour Party membership and support LWD

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The only mainstream party that currently acknowledges biological reality took a bit of a pounding yesterday (results so far). Spoiled ballot papers ain't going to cut it. From these results we might get a Labour Libdem coalition next time, if not outright Labour majority.

Either way, that means full steam ahead for Self ID.

If you are still a member of the Labour Party, Labour Women's Declaration is trying to get GC candidates on the National Women's Committee and push back at the MRAs who run the party. The nominations go in this month and next. LWD running an advice session soon.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65475817

Same

Women are going to lose their equality and rights in law and many will suffer much more directly, because some women 'couldn't bring themselves to vote Conservative'.

When you're in a burning building you don't kick off about the colour of the uniform of the first rescuer up the ladder, whether they smell nice or are your kind of person. You just need to fucking survive the situation first.

Sunak is PM with a large majority, so the Conservatives could sort this now if they wanted to. Why have they not?

Vague promises to protect women's rights at some point in the future don't cut it from the party who lied to the Queen, Parliament and the whole country. If they gave a shit they'd sort it now.

nilsmouse you can't blame women for refusing to vote for the party that lit the match and set the building on fire. The Tories are out at the next GE and it's nobody's fault but their own.

TooBig, I think Rishi has plenty of motivation for pushing ahead with the legal promises he has made before the next election.

It puts the focus on Keir.

Rishi pushes ahead with small changes that clarifies language within the Equalities Act. These changes are generally popular, though most people won't be aware of how important they are.

What does Keir do. Fight them. If so more people become aware of mess we are in, and that Labour are opposed to getting us out of it.

Just saw this on Twitter. We're fucked

I kind of hope that resolution is passed. We need this out in the open.

Let's hope he does Needmore. That way we have the law on our side whoever gets in at the next GE.

Where do branch resolutions get published?

I don't know that they do, unless through social media.

Any members / ex-members know for sure?

Cynical me says that RS can and will do something but will leave it for another year so it is still fresh in the electorate's mind at the election.

I think similar. He'll do just enough to not provoke ire or do it very quietly and in the run up to the next election, whatever he has done he will hold over starmer.

It'll be a very fine line to hold.

Totally

I have a lot of respect for LWD but I think it’s too late for Labour under its current administration. Starmer is trying to straddle the fence because he knows he’s got to try and appeal to women but he doesn’t want the Momentum types to turn on him. So not only is he not achieving anything but we all know that his overtures to woman are entirely self-serving. If he genuinely thought this was an issue he should have had the spine to stand up before now.

And I really don’t trust Labour not to push on with self ID once they get into power. Like the Hunting Act, it’ll be used as a sop to some wing of the party in return for support on something else.

I don’t think that local elections really mean that much, it’s often used as a protest vote before people vote a different way in the general election. I’d be surprised if the Tories don’t squeak home next time round.

I think the one hope re self ID etc., is that this Government is going ahead with the legal case against Scotland's GRR. If they win then in fact Labour will have an out, because they can say that as it will only have been in the past 12 months that there has been a legal process which blocks self id and lowering the age to 16, they will focus on other priorities. And I think they wont want the public (even if it is only those on FWR staging protests at the start of them becoming the Government.

Another ray of hope (and I almost dont want to say this in case it jinxes it!) I started a new thread because it turns out they have book Westminster Hall for the debate on the 2 opposing petitions re Sex & EA.

I was concerned to see that a member of the Labour Party had been put forward to Chair, but then I came across an article about her. If a true reflection if may say something about the Tories attitudes - not of course that the Chair of a debate should sway the outcome! See https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4800027-debate-relating-to-the-definition-of-sex-in-the-equality-act-2010-will-be-in-westminster-hall-on-12-june-2023-430pm?reply=125951248

But unfortunately (and again this came from a tv pundit) the fact is that Labour will find it hard to get a majority unless they regain the seats they lost in Scotland to the SNP. So on one level reducing the number of SNP MPs who presumably just about of paryt pride would support self ID etc., could be equalised out by having more actual Labour MPs.

re. turnout (someone asked up thread) this was said by a tv pundit but would think by now these figures should be available.

Sorry meant to add that from local results turnout has been reported as being well below 40%, sometimes as low as 32%. TV interviews seem to imply many Tory voters to punish Westminster (bit of an own goal if they wanted Tories locally) didn't vote.

ie as if often said, Labour didn't win, the Tories lost.

I'm considering joining the party just to add some weight on the issue, however tiny. I've never been a member of a party before.

A family member took a high up job in the Lib Dems for a while. Behind the scenes there is an intense ongoing factional battle on exactly this issue. But the leadership are keeping a very tight lid on it. They hold on to some senior GC people because they are such effective politicians but those ones are under constant attack. It is quire frightening to see.

That's a really good idea Permanent. Can you join multiple parties?

You're being let down. Plenty of men care. It's not enough, it seems.

This shit so reminds me of the whole Campden Is A Proud Nuclear Free Zone from the 80s.

At least in those days the virtue signalling was aimed at our Russian friends. Today, it's turned inwards.

No I wouldn't join multiple parties. I want a Labour Government.

They have a 20 year head start and they are male..

Even with the gender ideology?

It’s laudable to aim to change it from within but if it doesn’t work do you still want them

the promise of forming a government of good, honest and competent people.

They’d struggle to find enough to form a cabinet let alone a government.

Yes. I want a government that has some concept of the collective, of our obligations to each other. I want a Labour government. Laws can be changed and changed again.