Caroline F - new arrest / harassment ?

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Caroline has just posted on twitter that the police were trying to force entry - WTF going on?

Three officers saying she has to go with them.

Three.

twitter.com/cf_farrow/status/1651514281471492096?s=46&t=rbPMHI1uvxUAiQC4E1EE3A

Boiledbeetle

innocent until proven guilty is still present. but an alleged offence needs to investigated and an arrest may be part of that investigation process. An arrest is not the same as saying someone is guilty - only a court can do this.

So how do we change your views on how the police deal with things. Perhaps investigate allegations fully & properly - like this one. Allegation has been made and investigated.

No one i know in the job is corrupt or enjoys beating up women - if I see anything like this i would call it out.

The rape conviction rate (since you brought it up) is a huge topic and has been discussed on other discussions

Signs being held up - did someone make a complaint against the person holding the sign? Has that person chased up the investigation if it has not been dealt with?

Yes, I get that, but you called it service, not investigation, which to me implies something personal. The reason I said that 'service' is an interesting word is because it's the sort of word I'd use when I'm giving specific instructions e.g I get service from my hairdresser when she does my hair the way I want and she provides that service. It does imply that someone's issuing instructions about how they want something treated and want someone to jump to it so they see a result they're happy with, not just a general result.

I'm sure Surrey police aren't acting as a private militia enforcing someone's grievances; (though I notice from threads in October that some people thought that was exactly what they were doing). That's why I queried the use of the word 'service.'

Tallisker
The GPS on phones such as these are not accurate - we have tried putting doors through in the past for these types of jobs and phone ends up being miles away.

Criminals can also influence the tracker or turn them off - so it is not reliable

No one i know in the job is corrupt or enjoys beating up women

@Felix125

Then I guarantee you, you would be wrong.

I see our "lucky" police apologist monitor is still here telling all the stupid wimmin what to think.

How fortunate the people in that area must be, to have such an effective police force who have obviously solved all the local drugs crimes, burglaries, car theft, rapes, violent assaults let alone sorting out any "bad apples" in their ranks.

I've named changed for this.
Two women I know have had the most disgusting vile threats made to them on Twitter by a pseudonym account, personal details were known so it was obviously someone they knew. A person they later identified. When they reported it to the police nothing was done. Zilch. Nada. No invite for an interview, no seizing of devices. They did all the work to find out the identity of the person, had them admitting they made the threats. Nothing was done. So @Felix125 don't tell me that the police are fair in their interpretation of the law.

OK, who then - who do i know in the job that is like this

Just stepping in to highlight again Felix does not want women discussing our concerns with the police. He tries to take over threads with masses of whataboutery on technicalities and derails from what women actually want to discuss. He has stated that if a new thread is started to side step his take over he will follow you onto that thread. If you want to see his callous disregard for women and their experience look at the not a rape thread in chat. I wouldn't waste your time trying to engage. How his actions are perceived have been pointed out time and again by posters far more patient than I am.

@Boiledbeetle thanks for that. So her solicitor has dropped the ball here but its Caroline that suffers. What a mess.

We can all speculate all we want - where it crosses a line for me is where people start to say that the police are defiantly wrong in taking the action they have when we know nothing about the allegation or investigation.
And you frequently cross the line for me. Everything about your posts are boundary pushing and very uncomfortable to read, whether its the content, the frequency (oh god, the frequency!), the dismissal of other peoples concerns, the taking over, the making it police focused over everything else, etc. But you can't see that, or refuse to acknowledge that, which just adds to the boundary pushing, and quite frankly starts to feel abusive. But that's just a silly woman's feelings I guess, not really important in the grand scheme of things. Dont bother replying. I usually don't read your posts unless they are short and to the point.

If the person targeting Caroline Farrow is one of the two people I think it is, then neither has an exemplary track record. One has a significant stain on his recent history, the other is notorious for being a vexatious litigant and has actively harangued at least one other woman on these boards.

These people are well-versed in manipulating the law to suit generally misogynistic ends, and 'The Law' at this point appears actively complicit in their vendetta. Surely there will be serious questions asked at some point about those who use the legal system and the civil courts to pursue a personal vendetta, as we've seen with a number of high profile cases recently. And men like these two need to be made answerable for it.

In the meantime it feels as though women are being picked off and targeted one by one for harassment (and worse) by a powerful, incendiary and very well-bankrolled movement.

What a shitshow. A dystopian shitshow at that.

Sounds like you should be calling the police! After all, hasn't Felix been telling us all about how abusing someone on the Internet is perfectly good reason for having your door kicked in?

Perhaps Felix could even do the honourable thing and provide a name and address to streamline the process.

someone suggested a certain person must get an alert when the police are mentioned. I'm impressed that they are never on duty when it happens. It's almost a spooky coincidence

We know a bloody lot more about the players in this situation and what has previously occured than you, Felix.

Your pro-police, anti-women speculation (Caroline Farrow smashing someone's window! As if!) vs our educated guesses.

Is so wish we had the option to ignore/mute users.

I have absolutely no idea what this is about and the tweets aren't available. I'm gathering she is GC but also really very Christian, or something? Not a crime, surely, so what were the police there for?

@Felix125 "OK, who then - who do i know in the job that is like this"

You could perhaps start with your colleagues nicknamed things like "the Rapist" and "Bastard Dave" and consider whether it is really a term of affection, or possibly an indication that they are rapist bastards who should not be police officers.

Or perhaps next time there is a DV allegation against one of your colleagues, you could actually perhaps investigate it?

Baby steps, but they all help.

MartinisAtDawn
So has that person complained?
They have a right to a victim's review and reasons why the case was concluded - have they done this? What was the outcome?

This persecution of Caroline Farrow has been going on for years and years. And we all know who's behind it.

Yes we do @Datun and apparently they monitor here as well. It's pretty pathetic really.

Ms Farrow deals with near-constant harassment, but the courts won't see the pattern.

Assuming this is all genuine, I really really want to know WTF the police are spending so much time and resources on this?? What am I missing here and who is authorising this??

DerekFaker
If you know a lot more - then what is the allegation made here in this investigation?

Cherryblossoms85
That's the thing - we don't know. We don't know what the allegation is that has been made against Caroline.

Yet, the majority of people on here are saying that the police are wrong - yet they have no clue as to what the allegation is

jotunn

If you are on about David Carrick & Wayne Couzens - neither were my colleagues. Neither worked in the same police force as me. Neither have had anything to do with me. The first i heard about what they were doing was the same time as you.

People who were covering them up and 'letting them get away with it' are as guilty as they are in my opinion.

None of my team have any similar nicknames or anything which would highlight any concerns. Our team whatsapp account mainly centres around if we have enough milk for the oncoming shift

If any 'red flags' become apparent I will flag them up

At this point in time, I'll i see is the police force dancing to the drums someone else is playing.

It's not just the macafuckingrena at pride. It's a full on boogie wonderland to the puppet masters tune.

The fact than the police can't see it, and we can, is why I don't trust the police.

I don't trust the police. I 100% believe my lack of trust is completely justifiable.

SnackQueen

We don't know what the allegation is - so we don't know if the resources being spent on it are necessary.

If its a simple ".. I don't like you.." comment - then clearly not.

But what if its more than that. What if some threat has been made - or continued to be made. What if a physically assault or damage has been caused - who knows - none of us here know. So we can't really say whether the police resources sent have been justified.

The way it will work is that a cop has a crime on their queue that needs investigation and a victim that wants action for their crime. So that cop is investigating it before their case load goes through the roof with other jobs.

the majority of people on here are saying that the police are wrong - yet they have no clue as to what the allegation is

but we do know that the allegation only required a ‘voluntary’ interview, not an arrest. This means it cannot have been an allegation that would put anyone in danger.
Given this, why was it suddenly so important that Farrow had to be immediately arrested?

Baldieheid

And again - you don't know what the allegation is?
You don't know what the necessity is for police involvement and arrest?

So what are you seeing that the police aren't - bearing in mind that the police investigating have more of the facts about this case and know what the reporting person has alleged?