Would you ever consider a transwoman a woman?

[ZeldaFighter]

If a person had transitioned from male to female early in life and had lived quietly and unobtrusively as a woman for say 20 or 30 years, would you consider offering that person the status of "womanhood"?

Would you go on a girls night in a group with them?

Would you think differently if the person had had gender reassignment surgery?

What if they did actually pass?

What if they had a husband and kids?

This isn't a gotcha and I don't know the answers. I am instinctively annoyed by the taking away of women's things but I am also dismayed by the hurt and harm potentially caused to trans people. I'm trying to decide my own position and wondering if there are compromise positions. Apologies if this has been asked before and thank you for your thoughts.

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I would think of a transwoman as a woman if I didn't know they were trans I guess but if I knew they were trans then I'd know they were a man as by definition that's what a transwoman is. Not to say I'd dislike them for that fact as I have plenty of male friends.

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I know a few TW like that. They're not men ... but they're not women like I and my sisters are. They're transwomen.

But, to answer some of your other questions, I'd be guarded about including them in things like 'girls' nights out' etc.

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