Nike choose Dylan Mulvaney to promote womens sportswear range.

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Do you know what Nike? Forget about “just do it”, as far as I am concerned you can just do one.

Very grim. Sadly the thread that was started on that topic has just been deleted by Mumsnet for misgendering, we had best be careful on this thread too.

Drat. Might have been me. Ffs seriously?!

I commented on it and it never even made it into my "I'm on" list and no deletion message. Which is odd

Wot, the whole thread? Seems excessive.

And it's suddenly appeared on my I'm on list. I didn't misgender! I re posted "God that's grim!"

Do you think we are allowed to discuss bio sex if we are clear it’s sex we mean and not gender? Or is that also “misgendering”.

The transsexual community still exists and has members who express concerns about the current climate and the impact that current day TRAism is having on their lives. I have seen articles and videos expressing how important it is to be clear about sex in order for them to receive appropriate medical care.

@AliceOlive I do think people with gender dysphoria/ transsexuals are being damaged by Stonewalls huge trans umbrella.

There is a gulf between males with paraphillia’s and people with gender dysphoria.

Also, Kiwifarms is back up after a brief outage

Off-topic but I keep trying to google Kiwi Farms and all I get is outraged articles about how outrageous the antipodean fruit growers are.

I just get..well see below

Spread some love for Jersh.

He is apparently looking for an English wife.

Ha! Google censors all links to it. Least ways it doesn't show up in the first three pages. Just stories about it and usually the false ones about doxing, death threats and bullying. Bing however will happily show you the site as the first result along with links to sub-forums. (The "Stinkditch" sub-forum is where the most discussion of trans lobby is, fwiw. Try not to think about the title.).

Spread some love for Jersh. He is apparently looking for an English wife.

Godspeed you mad and stubborn bastard! :)

Not quite Dylan, but the New York Times newsletter this morning had this summary of the trans debate:

“The conservative campaign against trans rights
Social conservatives in the U.S. long used same-sex marriage to galvanize rank-and-file supporters and big donors. The campaign to restrict transgender rights has since supplanted that topic as an animating issue, reinvigorating a network of conservative groups, increasing fund-raising and setting the agenda in school boards and state legislatures.

The campaign, both organic and deliberate, has gained speed since Donald Trump, an ideological ally, left the White House. Since then, at least 20 Republican-controlled states have enacted laws that go beyond the initial debates over bathroom access, delving into medical treatments, participation in sports and even policies on discussing gender in schools.

“It’s a sense of urgency,” said Matt Sharp, senior counsel with Alliance Defending Freedom, an organization that has provided strategic and legal counsel to state lawmakers as they push through legislation attacking transgender rights. The issue, he argued, is “what can we do to protect the children?”

By the numbers: About 1.3 million adults and 300,000 children in the United States identify as transgender. These efforts have thrust them, at a moment of increased visibility and vulnerability, into the center of the nation’s latest battle over cultural issues.”

The NYT out Guardians the Guardian. Interesting: the linkage of opposition to gay marriage and opposition to trans; the way they suggest that going beyond the.bathroom debate is some sort of overreach, and the numbers. 300,000 kids.

He is our adored leader. I do love him. Now I qualify that with I love that hes all for freezepeach. And made and continues a website that offends lots of people but we can still say what we think. Some of the things other people post, gross me the fuck out, but I appreciate their God given right to post it.

Noping out on the wife bit, I thought he hated all britbong landers.

There are some very offensive things said on the 'Farms, but bizarrely that creates a kind of protective field that prevents entryism. Nobody wants to get any KiwiFarms on their RL identity. And the sheer lack of moderation means that unlike other places, people who are offended by another viewpoint can't go and have that other person's posts deleted.

I say lack of moderation. There is moderation, but it's pretty much entirely about two things: keeping the site functional and preventing people actually going to hassle the lolcows they talk about - that's a no no.

Null basically runs the place as a semi-apathetic dictator. Like the pro- and anti-Ukranian posters were making too much noise so he just slapped them into two threads, one where each could be surrounded by people sharing their preference. They can look at each others threads but they'll get in trouble if they go into them and start stirring things up. He's kind of like the website's dad. He just wants to read the funnies and tinker in his garage. He yells at the kids when they cause problems but mostly lets them argue amongst themselves.

Thanks everyone. I found it! It's quite refreshing in its awfulness - bracing! Like going back to 18th century satire after reading Emily Dickinson.

And there's a whole thread on Mumsnet

@BlueHeelers
>"Thanks everyone. I found it! It's quite refreshing in its awfulness - bracing! Like going back to 18th century satire after reading Emily Dickinson."

Because I could not stop for Death,
Death kindly stopped for me,
The carriage held but just ourselves,
And Dylan Mulvaney

I don’t post or browse, KF is not easy reading. Very occasionally I go over there, perhaps when there are a lot of deletions here, to find out what I am missing. And each time I have been pleased that there is someone who is brave/mad enough to withstand the pressure and also clever enough to keep going when technical suppliers like cloudflare and hosting organisations have caved.

Yaniv, Challenor, the golf playing lawyer. Especially in the early days when MSM was walking on eggshells, the Farmers enabled sunlight.

If I look now, it is at the Caroline Farrow thread. I don’t understand most of what is going on, but recognise that a few strong women including Farrow and KJK appear to be lightning rods for men who hate women. And that the treatment is foul. Its weird but great that Caroline has support from Josh and the farmers. I wonder if she wears her T-shirt much in her day to day life.

One thread to find is the one where Null posts his replies to complaints received. He has no future in customer service.

Why does Josh not like Brits 🥝

One thread to find is the one where Null posts his replies to complaints received. He has no future in customer service

So very true, he has a fantastic future as dear leader of the farms though. I really hope it continues forever.

Why does Josh not like Brits
I do not know, sadly I only found the place about 4 years ago and I dont have time to wade through old threads to figure it out, and posting the question would probably see me thrown off the site.

I'm a watcher of many many threads, post very little as mindful of the rules. caroline farrow, hollie dance, the flying lawyer, the Jennings, yaniv, challenors, Desmond, dr Gallagher, the Schofield family, very sad that one, lindsay Amer and of all people will wheaton. And a few very niche ones. But some weeks I've only time to catch up on one thread, so I'm weeks behind the actual happenings.
If I ever get a month or two off, I'll catch up and then go looking at older stuff.

Generally, yes. If one is clear to use 'male' to refer to bio sex but not call someone a 'man' or a 'woman' then this is usually allowed to stand. I just now use 'male' and 'female' as a matter of course. It's slightly clinical, but at least it's clear.

Thanks Arabella. I was confused because I saw some comments deleted and others left up. It makes sense now.

I guess the current thinking is, male/female still means what it means but he/she can mean whatever someone likes.

Interestingly Blaire White has recently stated that they don't think Mulvaney is genuinely trans.

Blaire bases this on 3 things:

1 Blaire has been taking female hormones for 7 years and so is quite familiar with their effects. Blaire thinks that Mulvaney is lying about taking hormones.

2 Blaire notes that Mulvaney has spent tens of thousands on facial surgery, but wont spend $300 on laser facial hair removal. Blaire thinks this is so that Mulvaney can transition back to a man more easily.

3 Blaire has looked into Mulvaney's social media past and thinks that Mulvaney has tried to latch on to all kinds of popular trends to become famous.

I love the Farms, it's a bastion of free speech in a world that has gone absolutely insane. I also greatly admire Josh, for standing up to insane levels of opression and attempted censorship. As I'm sure he knows, and I would have thought is already actively involved in, he has a bright future in networking tech, should he ever need it. He is a frer speech absolutist, if you listen to various podcasts he's on, and is also very sympathetic to and understanding of what women have been faced with over the past few years (unlike here, of course). I'd be proud to have him as my son in law, despite his weird bongland phobia (I think it was something to do with British cuisine).

That's interesting, heath. I had been convinced Dylan was playing some elaborate game before. Of course, Dylan has made a shittonne of money already, gained fame and a lot of attention.

I wonder how long Mulvaney needs to keep it up, and also whether there's a risk of going native- like deep cover agents. I can imagine falling for your own heavily filtered image. That exercise video though, surely that's just embarrassing?

Just Dude It.