KJK vs Keir Starmer

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https://twitter.com/ThePosieParker/status/1640976304773234688?cxt=HHwWgIC8rajQ9cUtAAAA

I don’t know if she can win given it’s been a Labour constituency since it was formed (in 1980s) and was held by Frank Dobson and then Keir Starmer and according to data is a ‘progressive’ constituency, average age 41 and good job security. Interestingly I can’t find data on constituency make up by sex.

I’m not sure she’s expecting to win. She knows she can cause an awful lot of disruption though. And I say bring it on!

You’re on a forum messaging. You’re not acting.

That is true. The first time I heard about KJK was on a very long thread of criticism and concerns

I don’t think it’s absent from this forum, the opposite I’d say

There's no such thing as 'no room to speak'. It doesn't exist. Speak. Start a thread.

What’s stopping you being brave?

This is the time to start sharing your position; after Maya’s win we have certain protections at work.
Depending on how braindead progressive one’s workplace is, the message can be tailored to minimise personal risk, and still take a stand.
If ordinary women start speaking up anywhere and everywhere, it will be a tsunami of public pressure. We have to stop being so passive about this, and many other things that make us uncomfortable.

You’re on a forum complaining about the things other postefs type. That’s even less than acting.

Posie is planning action.

Start a new thread if you want to direct the conversation.

KJK is acting and getting results and you think now is the time for a nuanced discussion about what she is doing right and what she is doing wrong. Nice way to willfully misunderstand a post.

You know there's a really nasty Facebook page for people who have nothing good to say about her, it's surprisingly quiet, perhaps you could reinvigorate it with by starting a nuanced discussion about her.

For the third time, I support her.

Way to prove my point.

Your point was there's no room to speak if you have concerns. There is no such thing as no room to speak on this website.

Speak. Start a thread.

I will happily fangirl KJK. Where the fuck would we be right now without her?

I have spoken frequently, for years. Perhaps I should have been clearer: there is no room to discuss.

Right let's get back on topic and away from the detractors. I can't personally stand as I would destroy my relationship with my daughter, sadly, and that's not a price I can pay.

I can help though. I've got time and I am looking to volunteer. I don't care what that help looks like. I'm up for it.

I do think that targeted constituencies is better than too thin. I'd like to see someone run against Lisa Nandy for example, to put sunlight on her belief that trans rapists should be in women's prisons. Someone against Lammy, dinosaurs. Those who have had over anti -woman positions are key targets.

If anyone knows how I can actively help short of actually running, for the reason given above, please pm me.

People disagreeing with you is not the equivalent of there is no room to speak.

You can't force people to discuss things that they don't agree with.

All you can do is put your view point across, and wait for the reaction. If the reaction is disagreement, that's life.

I do think that targeted constituencies is better than too thin. I'd like to see someone run against Lisa Nandy for example, to put sunlight on her belief that trans rapists should be in women's prisons. Someone against Lammy, dinosaurs. Those who have had over anti -woman positions are key targets.

Yes I agree, and covering all regions to maximise local TV regional coverage.

Sorry are you demanding that we engage with you if you post a comment?

Why act and when being a victim is more satisfying?

I was pretty indifferent towards Posie until all the bullying posts started popping up.
I absolutely hate bullying, especially pernicious picking and attempts to freeze out an individual which motivated me to really look into their ‘concerns’ and ‘nuance’.
The more I looked, the more I liked her.

Pleased to see the wonderful Hibo Wardere supporting her recently (the patronising ‘I’m so disappointed in you’ comments from The Women of The GenderBorg) are amusing.

https://twitter.com/hibowardere/status/1640295546291200002

I wonder if Hibo would stand? I have a vague recollection that she might live in David Lammy’s constituency! 😆

I think she’s great as she gets cut through

As much as it looks easy the reality of turning up, being the face, convincing people - it’s daunting to many.

There are other women who are great JKR for example but very few women speaking on this get this air time

It’s what we need

I was pretty indifferent towards Posie until all the bullying posts started popping up.I absolutely hate bullying,

Same. I'm also fucked off with people lecturing on how women should spend on own money, where we should donate etc

I'm going to throw a donation KJKs way.

Heavens to murgatroyd woman

what is it you want to say about her that you think you can’t?

spit it out

Oh actually that's a fabulous idea.
Wherever in the country you are, add her name and a little box with a tick. Job done, protest vote done, her name even wider known, done.

I mean as it stands I'm voting conservative, but it's a while away yet, things can change.

That’s what it feels like

you can post what you like

and so can everyone else

I really dunno what part of you do you’ people struggle with so much

What is it you want to say? Just say it ffs. You've built it up now!

Yes, I liked her bluntness, it was a relief, but ironically, her being kicked out of the WPUK meeting was what really piqued my interest.

It was so shady. The explanations were inadequate.

Her determination and bravery in the teeth of opposition is as important as her campaigning, in my opinion. She's not just letting women speak, she is simultaneously highlighting male violence.

She appeals to different people for different reasons.

And people coming on here using quite risible nonsense to try and shame women into eg not donating, really are failing in the 'understanding human nature' skills.

Women openly kicking back against patriarchal control are probably not the best cohort choice when you're desperately trying to exercise your patriarchal control.

I hadn't really heard much of KJK prior to her being discussed on here. It was the don't look there look here, she's a bad woman, don't give her your money. ON REPEAT that kept me going back to watch video after video.

So thanks to the bile and slurs spreading posters that tried to tell me how to think I was another added to the KJK is wonderful group DIRECTLY because of posters like our friend this morning.

So whatever the haters are trying to achieve I don't care I'm happy for them to continue. Because for every one of me there's probably another 10 women who read a post slagging her off and go look for themselves and find themselves on KJKs side!

You know not everyone suffered because of Brexit, you know even if Brexit had never and would never happen there would still be plenty of people suffering.

FWIW and to see your blood pressure rocket, I've got a spare 400 quid I'm donating to the PoW