Is the Trans shooter in Nashville Male or Female?

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The murderer who came in and killed 3 children and 3 adults is trans and called Audrey, I am confused as to their biological sex.

I thought most of the feminist section didn't believe that testosterone causes violence? All the discussions I've read on, here say it's male socialisation.

People have various views on here. We’re not a hive mind. Male socialisation is likely to have an influence on male patterns of behaviour but the idea that testosterone does not play a role would be strange. We know that hormones affect our behaviour and emotions so why would it be any different with testosterone?

StepAwayFromTheBiscuitJar · Yesterday 23:42
I thought most of the feminist section didn't believe that testosterone causes violence? All the discussions I've read on, here say it's male socialisation.

Are we now saying it causes violence in women but not men?

Men commit 98% of crimes for whatever reason, and according to studies so do transsexual men - they retain the same pattern if offending as ordinary men.
It cannot all be testosterone and men are often confident and assertive but not aggressive, but that crime rate for men cannot be all socialisation.

Transsexual females do not remain the same as ordinary women, they take on a more male offending pattern.

De transitioner Helena found testosterone made her feel very angry and she also became so psychotic she had to be hospitalised. She also said she couldn’t cry.
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Testosterone doesn't cause violence in anybody - it affects your mood and emotions. Your actions are entirely your responsibility.

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Not being able to cry. That is so sad.

Yep sorry. Completely confused

Me too! I looked her up specifically because I thought, "that can't be a woman." I assumed she was a MtF.

I'm in the US and it's interesting that when a trans-identifying male commits rape or murder, most of the media won't mention that the perp is not a biological woman. It's considered hateful to do so. But here we have a FtM and the media are all calling her a woman, most not mentioning at all the she identifies as a man.

Being in the USA, I've actually seen some video footage of this person in the hallways of the school. I think, and I am only guessing, that this is a female-to-male person, although I won't make any bets on it. The manner of moving is very female, although the overall physical appearance (from some distance) is male.

Politicians will say on TV, robotically, "thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers..." I can't imagine the gun problem ever going away in the US. Now that mental illness is treated with hormones and amputation instead of with therapy, I'm sure it will only get worse.

Prince Harry shows that the best treatment in the world doesn't work.

I don't think the answer is body mutilation either.

She was a woman who murdered adults and school children in cold blood.
She was shot dead my male police officers.

It doesn't seem to be clear whether she was going by "Aiden" all the time or just some of the time. Perhaps that is one of the reasons.

Apparently – yet again – her conservative parents didn’t like her being gay. So a talented young woman was groomed into an insane death cult.

The red baseball cap was a nice touch.

What on earth is going on with school security over there?

Their gender assigned at birth and the gender they identify with are completely irrelevant. Why is their sex of any concern to you? Your concern should be more at the fact there is yet another mass school shooting, and the highest source of child death in the US is from gun crime.

To my knowledge, out of all the school shootings, this is the first trans person. Nobody harped on about all the other shooters being male.

It is tiresome how many people here seem focused on what was inside the shooter's pants, rather than the fact a shooting took place.

Er.. feminists are very concerned about male violence and absolutely make a point of calling it out and discussing it. This murderer is female, and that is unusual and there was some confusion over reporting of the sex versus gender id of the individual. Of course it's going to be a topic of discussion on the Sex and Gender board, just as male incel behaviour was after the Plymouth attacks.

Her messages to her friend (poor woman) prior suggest that suicide (using the police as the weapon) was prominent in her thinking immediately prior to the attack. Or she wanted the friend to think so. Obviously it doesn't explain or excuse the premeditation and taking 6 innocent lives including children also.

It's heartbreaking.

We're all just trying to understand why it happened.

It's not. There have been at least 4 transmen who've committed shooting crimes and now 2 who have killed more than 4 people at a school.

The database (of mass shootings in 50 years) covers 172 people involved in a mass shooting. Almost 98% of them were male, with the youngest aged 11 and the oldest 70.

If we consider the stats - 98% of shooters are male. Roughly 168 v 4.

Of course we don't know the % who are recorded as male when they're female.

If 4 have been trans men, either way it points to a high % of females identifying as trans who've committed these crimes.

It may not be the trans there key here. As the database says all have been in crisis prior to or at the point of the shooting. Doesn't excuse the crime.

We know mh is a huge factor / driver in identifying as trans.

We also know from increasing research that transitioning doesn't appear to help mh longer term. For some it increases.

This analysis matters because it's safeguarding for both victims of the crime and the individuals themselves.

There's either been 4 females or 8, of whom 50% are trans.

I think you’ve been reading selectively, partially, or don’t understand what you’ve read. Others have already explained where and how you are mistaken, so I won’t.

It's does predispose you to aggression though.

It’s so tiresome how people don’t listen.

The problem is the way it has been presented in the media.

A transwomen who commits a crime, including rape, is referred to as a women and the pronouns of she/her are used. Their new name is used throughout.

A transman commits a crime and is referred to as a woman, she/her and their ‘dead’ name used throughout.

That is the problem, that is what is annoying me. The double standards.

It is tiresome how many people here seem focused on what was inside the shooter's pants, rather than the fact a shooting took place

No, @Katypyee - we are concerned with what's going on inside the shooter's head. What is happening in there which makes her so uncomfortable with what is "inside her pants", and determined to deny it / ignore/possibly even damage it, to the degree that she KILLS SMALL CHILDREN.

And possibly poisoned with testosterone in her female body to a point of rage, a suicidal state and psychosis.

And again, what the fuck? Where's the evidence? And even if it was the case, she was 28 years old, she would have made the choice to 'poison' herself. You make it sound as though she was not responsible for her actions.

It is tiresome how many people here seem focused on what was inside the shooter's pants, rather than the fact a shooting took place

And I'm concerned by the cultural influence the US has globally. I don't want to live in a country that glorifies gender (either gender ideology or conservative Christian), glorifies guns, and doesn't understand the fact that sex plays an enormous part in crime patterns, as you appear not to.

And again, what the fuck? Where's the evidence?

Good question where’s the evidence? Oh yes, there isn’t any because nobody has bothered to collect any data on how medicating a female person, over a long period, with testosterone affects their mood and their behaviour.