Boycott New Zealand

[Clymene]

Let's hit the state sanctioned violence against women where it hurts - in their pockets.

Off the top of my head:

Wine - Oyster Bay, Villa Maria, the Ned, Wairau Cove, Brancott Eatate, Cloudy Bay
Lamb - check the label to make sure it's British
Manuka honey and ordinary honey - M&S stock quite a few.
Wool
Allbirds shoes
Canterbury clothing.

Have I missed anything?

Also write to the PM: [email protected]
Minister for trade: [email protected]

And tell them you're boycotting and why. There's no point if they don't know you're doing it!

How do you expect people to take you seriously when you say NZ is “not much better than Afghanistan”?

come on now

Once the farmers see their profits dropping off a cliff the government will see their tax revenue dropping, the farmers can then take the opportunity to pressure them to allow lesbians to meet in public again.

Are you on something???

We're the colonisers, are we? The ones of us who are on this side of the planet?

yeh not sure this washes

NZ woman here. Currently feel very safe, thank you very much, as do all my female friends.

@Bowlofporridge well that’s ok then, because you and your little group feel safe. Well quite a lot of kiwi women do not! Quite a lot of kiwi women do not want to share changing rooms with men, or their sports, and a number were violently assaulted and harassed for wanting to speak about these concerns. Just this weekend. Do you think my elderly mother should get physically harassed talking in public? Do you think she’s a drama Queen for feeling unsafe at 75 in her own country? After what we just witnessed to come here with that kind of comment is just low. Did you do that when a British girl was murdered in NZ, run along to publicly declare you and your friends felt safe so all was good? Do you join all the menz and go watch Sevu Reece play rugby too? Despite the fact he chased and beat his partner ON THE STREET. Probably aye, the rest of NZ doesn’t care do they. The highest rate of domestic violence in the developed world but you and your friends are safe.

Well, Māori and Pasifika people have a pretty proud history of acceptance towards takataapui and fa’afafine….

Okay, coloniser 🙄

Are you Maori?

If not, you do understand that your forefathers were literal colonisers, don't you? Whereas us white British people still living in Britain are literally not colonisers?

You live in the arse end of nowhere, in a place that relies heavily on tourism. This is going to bite you all in the arse and you know it. Which is why you're all getting so defensive. But yeah, double down on your regressive ideas, that'll go well for you😆

Maybe new Zealand don't want our support maybe they should be left to their own devices

Indeed. Seems some women there are quite happy to see a 70 year old woman beaten up in a crowd of people including police. Leave ‘em to it.

She did not do that, your media did.

Newshub blurred her hand in one of their news reports claiming that she was making a white power gesture with her hand when in actual fact she was playing with the zip on her top.

There was also video footage of KJK discussing the events in Melbourne with some of the organizers, they all said they had no idea the men in black were Nazis until they starting saluting but your media did not report that either.

The also didn't report the disparaging remarks the NSN released before the event, they claimed KJK was "promoting lesbianism" and "imposing cultural Marxism".
Doesn't sound like they were there to support women speaking.

KJK was a lifelong Labour supporter and feminist until she decided that to make headway on this issue she needed to engage with people from across the political spectrum and use the platforms she was offered. The left wing media would not entertain a woman speaking about women's rights so she used right wing media, who were willing to platform her, to get her message out there.

She has been smeared as far right by some left wing feminsts who were pissed off that her strategy got the message out to ordinary women, they have chosen to remain loyal to the political left which continue to shit on them. It's disappointing that some of the women who call themselves feminists are more interested in the men who platform KJK than what KJK has to say.

I can't imagine KJK's personal politics have changed that much but she is publicly explicitly non partisan and welcomes women from across the political spectrum to speak at her events.

There is no association with Nazis, you can only believe that if you have never listened to KJK herself or you need a way of explaining the violence women were met with just for wanting to speak about their rights.

Her posturing has resulted in silencing of women.

The violence in NZ has resulted in silencing women.

Which was the intent

You live in the arse end of nowhere, in a place that relies heavily on tourism. This is going to bite you all in the arse and you know it. Which is why you're all getting so defensive. But yeah, double down on your regressive ideas, that'll go well for you😆

Oh do get over yourself. I would be very surprised if anyone on the feminist boards visited NZ - far too busy getting in a froth about anything which offends them. You also seem to over estimate just how important the UK is to NZ. Saying it is going to "bite us all in the arse" is just laughable.

NZ is the only country in the world, I have been called 'white trash' out of the window of a car by a bunch of lads when I have been walking along the street.

To posters mentioning the ‘danger’ and violence and discrimination transwomen face - this is just not true in Western countries. They’re not forced into prostitution in the poorest parts of Brazil or India, FFS. Even in those contexts, bio women are raped and murdered in much huger numbers.

But transwomen today:

• attack lesbians for saying they won’t sleep with male-bodied penis-havers, no matter how they identify in their heads. These attacks are sometimes physical, such as punching, rushing at or pushing lesbians marching in Pride marches around the world. Plenty of video evidence.
• Coerce and intimidate lesbians by invading OLD and physical spaces and demanding that they be included in dating pools. No, your ‘Ladydique‘ is not a female organ, it’s a run of the mill cock and balls. No, it doesn’t have a different mouthfeel because you ‘feel’ like a woman. These and a lot worse are said to lesbians a lot. Plenty of evidence again.
• attack women of any sexuality for saying biological sex (not gender) is important in medical, legal and social contexts. Scream that it’s transphobic to allude to bio sex.
• these attacks include doxxing, rape and death threats, bullying and mobbing in the workplace. Plenty of evidence.
• feel entitled to any and all single-sex spaces, even despite sexually violent crimes.
• perpetuate the false belief that any children who don’t fit the expected gender behaviours/stereotypes associated with their sex, are trans, and must be affirmed at all costs without watchful waiting or safeguards. This is despite a significant and growing body of research to the contrary.
• They even troll and abuse older trans people who have concerns about gender identity overriding bio sex. (And who transitioned when it was incredibly difficult and they did often face overt discrimination).

And on and on. Straight men used to joke that they were ‘lesbians trapped in male bodies, haw haw’. Now, we’re meant to accept this as a fact, FFS. It’s all utterly depressing.

I'm a woman from NZ but have been living in the UK for a long time now. I really don't feel like going back there now, so depressing.

You forget that a decent proportion of us have lived in the UK and know exactly what it's like: I spent ten years there and was back last year. I doubt that many of you could say the same about New Zealand.

Telling us you're ahead of the curve over there and one day we'll wake up to what you're saying? Okay, coloniser 🙄

Maori Wahine here. I’d appreciate it if you would not call members of this feminist forum colonisers. You can imagine that throwing that around when Maori are included is pretty offensive, and I find it racist. None of the people in the UK now, are colonisers. The descendants of colonisers would be people like you. Back in NZ. That’s your history, not the people in the uk. I’ve lived in uk 20 years and NZ for much longer. I know plenty of kiwis in the UK too. We are all here for a reason. How many kiwis live overseas now? 1/5th of the population isn’t it? That’s quite a lot for a place you are describing as some safe utopia. I guess my mother imagines the racism at work, on the street? I guess all of my female friends also imagine their domestic abuse, sexual abuse and harassment too? I must of imagined my rapes, plural, in NZ too. I must of imagined all the street harassment. I must of imagined by teacher abusing the whole class of girls and us being threatened when we told the principal. The statistics on NZ’s violence problem, are they lies too? The highest rate of domestic violence in the developed world, it’s increased in recent years but convictions and court appearances have dropped. Police aren’t bothering to even arrest them. I also must of completely made up in my head all the many many articles in NZ media defending various All Blacks who hit their partners. My friends must of made up the abuse they get from kiwis online if they dare to want to talk about that.

NZ is a fucking scary place to be a woman and yes, for the ignorant kiwi posters with no clue, that is evident in the statistics and data. If you don’t know this and you live a carefree life walking around by yourself, without ever even encountering any other women who has been a victim, then you live in a very privileged bubble. But don’t you dare come here and tell anyone that kiwi women are safe as and none of what we just saw represents NZ. It does. It’s always been like this. Whether it’s Maori you’re silencing and stealing from, or women, you lot just don’t want anyone talking about it. I mean I’m familiar with white washing folks, but denying violence against women and girls is a problem there… that takes some nerve that does.

Boycotting New Zealand is a ridiculous overreaction imo.

Why does everything have to be so extreme? It's just feeds into the vicious cycle of "no middle ground".

Let cooler heads prevail.

Oh do get over yourself. I would be very surprised if anyone on the feminist boards visited NZ

SOME OF US ARE KIWI! Don’t come here attacking this board. They can boycott who they like. And tourism is in big trouble in nz after covid so I don’t think people relying on it would appreciate your attitude!

Well, Māori and Pasifika people have a pretty proud history of acceptance towards takataapui and fa’afafine….

Do NOT speak for us. Besides which, geez the ignorance, gay and lesbians, and Fa’afafine, are nothing to do with transgenderism!!! At all!! Nobody actually thinks in Samoa that people can change sex. You know that right? You know what the PM said after Laurel Hubbard stole medals of their lifters? Ignorant comments

I’ll be reporting anyone that comes on this board and calls people colonisers as racist.

Here’s a tweet thread from Mana Wahine, Maori women I personally know, describing the violence directed at them after Posie left, including Kuia. So safe, so incredibly safe. I guess as always, these Maori women don’t count

https://twitter.com/MKorero/status/1640140420075393025?s=19

I think it was a bit tongue in cheek. I'm still upset about my shrunk wool top.

Anyway to all those of you yelling Nazi and coloniser in support of trans people this is the usual reaction around the world.

No facts, only centuries old insults. There are no facts or we would be hearing them instead of the media vilifying women who want to speak

We watched the New Zealand witch hunt. We will be rewatching this for years to come.

I get your point re. Farmers.
It's the politicians that are to blame, eroding the rights of women and girls for this infiltration of males everywhere.

Whaeanui I applaud you. Spot on