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Boycott New Zealand

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Clymene · 26/03/2023 16:48

Let's hit the state sanctioned violence against women where it hurts - in their pockets.

Off the top of my head:

Wine - Oyster Bay, Villa Maria, the Ned, Wairau Cove, Brancott Eatate, Cloudy Bay
Lamb - check the label to make sure it's British
Manuka honey and ordinary honey - M&S stock quite a few.
Wool
Allbirds shoes
Canterbury clothing.

Have I missed anything?

Also write to the PM: [email protected]
Minister for trade: [email protected]

And tell them you're boycotting and why. There's no point if they don't know you're doing it!

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Clymene · 27/03/2023 08:04

pewpupoo · 27/03/2023 07:52

Boycotting New Zealand is a ridiculous overreaction imo.

Why does everything have to be so extreme? It's just feeds into the vicious cycle of "no middle ground".

Let cooler heads prevail.

No it isn't. The only way ordinary people can change things is by protest - and what we have seen is that's too dangerous - and by withdrawing financial support.

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PinkFrogss · 27/03/2023 08:04

With what’s been coming out about the met and everything else happening here, I’m not sure New Zealand is all that much worse than the UK…

oakleaffy · 27/03/2023 08:05

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 08:01

Here’s a tweet thread from Mana Wahine, Maori women I personally know, describing the violence directed at them after Posie left, including Kuia. So safe, so incredibly safe. I guess as always, these Maori women don’t count

https://twitter.com/MKorero/status/1640140420075393025?s=19

That's awful.
Māori Women need to be heard.
It IS their Country after all.

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 08:06

Thank you @oakleaffy but a lot of kiwis don’t think it is our country. A lot of kiwis still don’t even want to hear our language on the news. That’s what we’re up against in kind New Zealand.

LunaTheCat · 27/03/2023 08:08

Athrawes · 27/03/2023 05:56

NZ woman here.

Posey Parker has done tremendous harm to free speech in Australia and NZ. By associating herself with repellent right wing Nazis, she has very effectively forced people to choose sides in what is actually a far more nuanced debate than the media would have us believe.

She has created, and revelled in creating, a situation where if, as a woman, you suggest that single sex spaces and provision is a desirable situation, you are seen to be aligned to Nazism.

Her posturing has resulted in silencing of women.

I totally agree with this. I am a kiwi and I feel so bloody furious that she has let herself be aligned with Brian Tamaki and his ilk … by refusing not to align herself with the extreme right she has done immeasurable harm to women’s rights in NZ

marzipansux · 27/03/2023 08:08

OhVicIveFallen · 27/03/2023 07:36

You live in the arse end of nowhere, in a place that relies heavily on tourism. This is going to bite you all in the arse and you know it. Which is why you're all getting so defensive. But yeah, double down on your regressive ideas, that'll go well for you😆

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Agree, with everything to do with the terrible way KJK was treated. Disgusting
Also the Nazi group were probably just a bunch of bored Melbourne thugs. They certainly didn't look impressive.
Don't live in NZ but do get a bit bored with the "arse end of nowhere " comments. It's very Eurocentric, and I suppose understandable but doesn't help the GC cause by alienating lots of women who don't live in Europe. The Afghanistan comment was ridiculous.
We women need to stop bickering and move onto more important things like saving womens safe spaces, sports, awards etc.

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 08:11

I am a kiwi and I feel so bloody furious that she has let herself be aligned with Brian Tamaki and his ilk

This is a lie. Even the herald said Tamaki was a counter protest to Posie and they blamed them for the violence. You know as well as I do that he doesn’t give a shit about women’s rights. Anyone can turn up. You can’t make women responsible for what men do.

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Clymene · 27/03/2023 08:11

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 08:01

Here’s a tweet thread from Mana Wahine, Maori women I personally know, describing the violence directed at them after Posie left, including Kuia. So safe, so incredibly safe. I guess as always, these Maori women don’t count

https://twitter.com/MKorero/status/1640140420075393025?s=19

Bloody hell. That's despicable

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Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 08:12

From Mana Wahine

Women - elderly - were chased up the street, one was punched more than once in the face, we believe another didn't even make it to the event before she was punched in the face having to go to hospital

Safe NZ.

Ndd135632 · 27/03/2023 08:13

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 08:12

From Mana Wahine

Women - elderly - were chased up the street, one was punched more than once in the face, we believe another didn't even make it to the event before she was punched in the face having to go to hospital

Safe NZ.

I find it amazing that people from New Zealand are coming on this board with a ‘nothing to see here’ attitude. Oh we see it all. And we believe the women who are telling the stories.

forgotmyusername1 · 27/03/2023 08:13

GADDay · 27/03/2023 04:19

I must be missing something. Are you seriously trying to say that Lesbian Women can't talk to one another in NZ.

😕 😕 😕 😕

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In the UK a lesbian group had to be ushered out the back door as outside their meeting was a large group of trans activists who were protesting their non inclusively of trans women in their lesbian group - unsurprisingly. Most people would think- fair enough, they are lesbians so don't like penises. Trans activists think - these women are rejecting us, we are women with penises but for them to not want to sleep with us is bigotry- get them

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 08:14

Research suggests that one in three (33%) of New Zealand women have experienced physical or sexual intimate partner violence (IPV) in their lifetime. When psychological abuse is added (where economic harm sits), it increases to one in two (55%).

Half the population of women just got dismissed and ignored by the so-called kiwi women that jumped on this thread overnight. This is what we deal with in NZ btw. Denial. Minimisation. Looking the other way. It’s why it’s so bad.

oakleaffy · 27/03/2023 08:19

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 08:06

Thank you @oakleaffy but a lot of kiwis don’t think it is our country. A lot of kiwis still don’t even want to hear our language on the news. That’s what we’re up against in kind New Zealand.

Very depressing. Keep fighting for what is right! Your rights.

Son {UK} had a friend who went to live in NZ ..He was a firefighter who died recently in the landslide there in the line of Duty {one of two firefighters who died}.. Muriwai.

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 08:20

Oh my god @oakleaffy did you know one of them?! I knew that had happened, I’m so sorry. Emergency workers are absolute hero’s and sheros. Such a tragedy

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 08:20

New figures from the Ministry’s New Zealand Crime and Victims Survey (NZCVS) show worryingly low levels of reporting of sexual violence - 94% percent of sexual assaults were not reported to Police

forgotmyusername1 · 27/03/2023 08:24

Yesterday a man dressed as a women to gain access to a woman in order to assault her. He drenched her in a red sauce which could look like blood and is crowing about shutting up a woman who brought it on her assault backed up by many many others.

Why on earth would we want men in our changing rooms, hospital wings and prisons - they are violent arseholes

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 08:25

NZ has one of the highest rates of gang membership in the world:
By June 2021, there were 8,061 patched gang members on the Police Gang List, a 4,000 increase from 2016. By November 2022, the number of gang members on the Gang Harm Insight Centre's Gang List had risen to 8,357; the highest number ever recorded in New Zealand history.

A relative’s friend was shot and killed intervening in a gang member beating a woman in a carpark and my relative had to both witness it and provide witness in court. Against a gang.

FOJN · 27/03/2023 08:26

LunaTheCat · 27/03/2023 08:08

I totally agree with this. I am a kiwi and I feel so bloody furious that she has let herself be aligned with Brian Tamaki and his ilk … by refusing not to align herself with the extreme right she has done immeasurable harm to women’s rights in NZ

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"Let herself" are you serious?

Reminds me of, "did you scream and try to fight him off?".

You are clearly very happy with the lies your media are feeding you and it suits your agenda to repeat them.

sashh · 27/03/2023 08:27

Bananice · 27/03/2023 07:18

This isn't the 1940s: the UK can't get all colonial on us and tell us how to think. Someone called kiwis smug upthread: how bloody smug is it to tell us how to live in our country? We are free thinkers and will make up our own mind... and that mind resoundedly told Posey Parker to take her transphobic ideas and go home.

You forget that a decent proportion of us have lived in the UK and know exactly what it's like: I spent ten years there and was back last year. I doubt that many of you could say the same about New Zealand.

Telling us you're ahead of the curve over there and one day we'll wake up to what you're saying? Okay, coloniser 🙄

No one has said you are smug.

You made that up.

I asked about Kiwis being cocky because in my experience with one exception (and he lived in Australia) every Kiwi I have met has been cocky, up themselves and dismissive of everything European.

An 'overseas experience' isn't real life, living in a hostel and working behind a bar in London does not teach you anything about life in the UK and that is what most Kiwis do, turn up work for bit 'travel' because that's cooler than goin on holiday, get back to London and tell us hoe they speak lots of languages in Europe (we know) tell us how far Australia is away (not much different to distances Europeans travel on holiday) and are highly offended that we have asked whether you have visited OZ.

News for you Australia is the no 1 destination for Kiwis to visit, it's not unreasonable to ask if you have been there.

But hey I can cope with all that, what I do have a problem with is women's rights being ripped away. It happened in Afghanistan, why are you so sure it can't happen in NZ?

oakleaffy · 27/03/2023 08:30

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 08:20

Oh my god @oakleaffy did you know one of them?! I knew that had happened, I’m so sorry. Emergency workers are absolute hero’s and sheros. Such a tragedy

He stayed here as a younger lad.. in son's bedroom. Very polite! {Craig}
Son and other UK friends went for a Memorial event for Craig last weekend.

Craig's face was familiar to me..He still looked the same in his late 30's .I was deeply saddened.
It looks devastating what has happened over there, after Landslides.

Regarding violence to Women, It is so rarely reported to police, no matter where in the World.

Mum {Adopted mum} had an attempted rape in the South of France when walking alone behind the holiday home. {Esterel region, quite rocky and remote}

She was pushed to the ground, lost her shoes and in desperation bit her attacker on his shoulder.
He amazingly left her alone, and rode off on his motorbike.

She didn't report it, despite Dad and us wanting her to...She said ''In France women just don't walk alone in the countryside...the police won't understand''

Best Wishes to you.

Rosula · 27/03/2023 08:34

Kleinenichy · 27/03/2023 05:59

Once the farmers see their profits dropping off a cliff the government will see their tax revenue dropping, the farmers can then take the opportunity to pressure them to allow lesbians to meet in public again.

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Let's face it, though, that isn't going to happen, is it? Boycotting is never going to become a mass movement.

ShimmeringShirts · 27/03/2023 08:34

Feeling largely the same way about NZ and their products and people as I do about Russia et al right now.

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 08:38

@oakleaffy gosh that’s so sad and I am sorry to hear. I read the lovely tributes to both men and it’s just terribly sad.

Yes I never reported anything after trying to report DV & then teacher abuse when young and getting nowhere. I would never report an assault now either. It’s just not worth it.

Musomama1 · 27/03/2023 08:40

Bowlofporridge · 27/03/2023 02:30

Shame on you for making the logical leap that I support violence against women. The biggest perpetrators of violence in NZ are male partners against their partners. I do not support any violence against women, be they cis or trans.

Also, lesbians do not have the right to meet without males?? What on earth are you on about? That's just absolutely ridiculous…

How sad to be so scared. I am happy to live in a city that has spoken out loudly for inclusivity, rather than prejudice.

Feel free to speak your piece on any forum, NZ or otherwise. But don’t you proclaim that you speak for all women, or that anyone who doesn’t support your views advocates violence.

The irony of your post! So KJK was literally made to fear for her life. And you say women shouldn't be fearful? The minimisation of events here, the crowd didn't try to 'drown her out', they tried to lynch her. You seem ok with that which is worrying.

And you don't realise that KJK was invited to NZ to give a platform for NZ women to exercise their freedom of speech?

Whether you agree or not with what is being said, as a woman surely you'd hope that in the 21st century women can speak out and not be fearful of being shut down or attacked by men?

You mention NZ has domestic abuse, some of the highest figures in a progressive country. Male violence is a problem. You didn't see how the weekend legitimated that in public and some men were getting off on it?

The Witch trial in NZ shows the utter mysogyny you have in your country. You might not realise that and it sounds like it's been very much internalised by women like you. I hope you work it out one day.

In the meantime please reflect on the irony when you say it's sad women are fearful.

TiedUpWithABlackVelvetBand · 27/03/2023 08:40

Never in my middle-aged life have I been embarrassed to be Kiwi. I have only ever been proud to be.

This weekend, that changed.

And this thread only makes me even more ashamed.

Please know that not all of us are male-rights activists. Please know that many of us do have our eyes open down here, and can see what is going on.

We want to speak about this.

This is not going away. Sunlight is pouring into this issue - one that didn’t even register on many people’s radars until now. It’s only going to get louder and louder. Women won’t be silenced.

The world thinks NZ is some embarrassing, shrieky, violent, mob-mentality little backwater. Completely shameful.

FML - the ‘coloniser’ comment is beyond embarrassing - said by the descendent of a coloniser…. 😔

P.S @Whaeanui - thank you for your contributions to this, and other, threads in recent days Flowers

These photos are what the world is seeing we are..

And you genuinely wonder why we don’t want male-bodied people in our single-sex spaces….?

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