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Boycott New Zealand

694 replies

Clymene · 26/03/2023 16:48

Let's hit the state sanctioned violence against women where it hurts - in their pockets.

Off the top of my head:

Wine - Oyster Bay, Villa Maria, the Ned, Wairau Cove, Brancott Eatate, Cloudy Bay
Lamb - check the label to make sure it's British
Manuka honey and ordinary honey - M&S stock quite a few.
Wool
Allbirds shoes
Canterbury clothing.

Have I missed anything?

Also write to the PM: [email protected]
Minister for trade: [email protected]

And tell them you're boycotting and why. There's no point if they don't know you're doing it!

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ArabellaScott · 30/03/2023 09:11

A word on 'outnumbered'.

Feminists are often outnumbered on these occassions, yes. Given that an elderly woman had her skull fractured and the lead speaker was attacked and threatened, I find that very unsurprising. It's clearly dangerous to attend women's rights meetings if you are the 'wrong sort' of woman.

It's a bizarre take that the sheer number of protesters actually means anything. What matters is the arguments - otherwise the argument is sheer suggestion that 'might is right'.

If these protestors were able to sit down and discuss the issues rationally, I suspect they wouldn't have the noisy circus and the mob violence. But they don't. Because they can't. Because there are no good arguments to counter women's assertion that they don't want to share their rights with males.

Whaeanui · 30/03/2023 09:30

Whether they are right wing thugs or left wing thugs makes very little difference - they are entitled men, mostly white, using their physical presence and force to control women and prevent them from speaking

Exactly. But the resident misogynists love to come here and blame women for the actions of men. Maybe the Nazis came to support the largely male group of TRA’s there to assault women and stop them speaking, that’s certainly more on-brand for Neo Nazis than supporting women.

Anyone posting Stuff propaganda after their lies about neo Nazis in Melbourne being there to support and after they had a lovely supportive article for someone who committed assault and now has police issuing an arrest warrant for them, is showing us exactly who they are.

Whaeanui · 30/03/2023 09:31

If these protestors were able to sit down and discuss the issues rationally, I suspect they wouldn't have the noisy circus and the mob violence. But they don't. Because they can't.

Exactly. There are no conversations because they have no argument, just ‘kill all terfs’ and ‘you’re Nazis’

Queenofscones · 30/03/2023 09:41

Brokendaughter · 30/03/2023 03:05

What on earth are you proud of?

Some ill-kempt bloke punching an old lady repeatedly in the face?
Screaming red faced men threatening a middle aged woman who just wants to talk with some other people who feel like her?
Breaking a womans foot because she might have wanted to hear women speak?

That is not something urban, educated women condone.

Every single one of that hateful mob went out of their way to turn up somewhere just to attack a small group of women.

The majority of women in the world do not condone men punching old ladies in the face.
If that's what you think represents the best New Zealand has to offer, it's a country that has some really big problems.

Are you white, @Bowlofporridge ? Ah, the irony of a white probably British-heritage Kiwi calling a visiting white woman with an opinion a coloniser. KJK's events are called Let Women Speak and she does just that — she arranges the events, kicks them off and then she lets women speak. In Auckland's case, New Zealand women, many of them Maori women. There will be a time when you, with all your privilege, look back on your rainbow cult membership and cringe.

Helleofabore · 30/03/2023 09:42

landOFconfusion · 30/03/2023 07:49

A couple of goons from the neo-Nazi group Action Zealandia turned up in skull masks.

There are pictures of them floating around the protest throwing Nazi salutes at the counter-protestors.

And they have nothing to do with the women organising this event, nor Kellie Jay Keen.

In fact, using all the tactics that have been used for the Melbourne rally, if they were standing in the vicinity of the thousands of counter-protestors, they are 'on the side of' those counter protestors. And also, if those counter-protestors say they are 'not with the neo-nazis', or that the neo-nazis may agree that the sky is blue and water is wet but they don't agree on many other issues, they are not to be believed because the evidence is that the neo-nazis were in the vicinity of and that is the ONLY evidence that is needed.

How bizarre that this always gets missed when it doesn't fit the desired narrative.

hazeleyednerd · 30/03/2023 09:48

ArabellaScott · 30/03/2023 09:11

A word on 'outnumbered'.

Feminists are often outnumbered on these occassions, yes. Given that an elderly woman had her skull fractured and the lead speaker was attacked and threatened, I find that very unsurprising. It's clearly dangerous to attend women's rights meetings if you are the 'wrong sort' of woman.

It's a bizarre take that the sheer number of protesters actually means anything. What matters is the arguments - otherwise the argument is sheer suggestion that 'might is right'.

If these protestors were able to sit down and discuss the issues rationally, I suspect they wouldn't have the noisy circus and the mob violence. But they don't. Because they can't. Because there are no good arguments to counter women's assertion that they don't want to share their rights with males.

Genuinely asking here if you can share a link to anything showing where the woman's skull was fractured? There is nothing I can find in any NZ media (mainstream or otherwise) indicating this and my international news site searches have also been fruitless. If she in fact did have her skull fractured this is something I think would be important to kiwi women to know, to understand the violence.

Queenofscones · 30/03/2023 09:49

Another New Zealand brand to boycott:

Sistema. Their water bottles, lunch boxes etc are everywhere. Boycott them.

IcakethereforeIam · 30/03/2023 09:52

Oh, ffs, landof thinks quenelles are nazi! Fascist fine dining anyone?

Boycott New Zealand
Whaeanui · 30/03/2023 09:53

@hazeleyednerd have you been following this? NZ Media are describing it as mostly peaceful and giving articles to one of the violent people who assaulted Posie. They’re not even showing the footage of the older women being punched! Of course you won’t find it with them. The footage has been shared of the multiple assaults on her and the organisers have shared photos of her injuries afterwards. If you use the hashtag #letwomenspeak on twitter ( you don’t need an account ) you’ll see quite a lot of evidence of all of it. The woman doesn’t want her name circulated. She’s very frightened.

hazeleyednerd · 30/03/2023 10:01

Whaeanui · 30/03/2023 09:53

@hazeleyednerd have you been following this? NZ Media are describing it as mostly peaceful and giving articles to one of the violent people who assaulted Posie. They’re not even showing the footage of the older women being punched! Of course you won’t find it with them. The footage has been shared of the multiple assaults on her and the organisers have shared photos of her injuries afterwards. If you use the hashtag #letwomenspeak on twitter ( you don’t need an account ) you’ll see quite a lot of evidence of all of it. The woman doesn’t want her name circulated. She’s very frightened.

I have been following it, not just on mainstream media but on multiple non mainstream platforms, and have seen quite a lot of videos taken from many angles, some from friends who were present as well.

I haven't looked at twitter as I don't have an account and didn't realise I could search it without one (thought it was like FB in that regard). Thank you for pointing that out to me, I will spend some time looking through there as well.

It wasn't about finding out her name or anything like that, but if there are injuries of that nature, the fact of that shouldn't be hidden. The identity yes. But people should know significant injuries occurred.

Nga Mihi

namitynamechange · 30/03/2023 10:06

@landOFconfusion Well where is the video evidence of them being "hindered" then. Because (while I don't think violence helps any way) the self styled "counter protesters" were more than happy to show their physical dominance over the standing for women attendees by elbowing older men, punching elderly women, screaming at 10 year olds. And they were proud enough to boast about their victory publicly. But strangely none of them felt in necessary to physically engage with the ACTUAL Nazi's you claim were there. There are a number of explanations for this including:

  1. They are cowards who only attack those who cant fight back
  2. They weren't actually interested in preventing actual neo-nazis at all - all their energy is reserved for stopping women speaking
  3. They like Nazis???
  4. You are talking nonsense
RosaBonheur · 30/03/2023 10:07

namitynamechange · 30/03/2023 08:04

Thank you for confirming. Well, there certainly isn't any video evidence of those men being challenged that I can find. There is however masses of video evidence of women and old men being attacked, screamed at, headbutted, having liquid thrown on them. So I shall make my judgements based on that. And I think the photos you describe of young men wandering about making Nazi salutes unhindered tell their own story.

Maybe the police had their hands a bit full, what with all the trans activists physically assaulting women, and didn't have the capacity to deal with Nazi salutes as well?

IcakethereforeIam · 30/03/2023 10:08

I'm thinking all 4.

namitynamechange · 30/03/2023 10:08

Whaeanui · 30/03/2023 08:17

@namitynamechange considering the claims neo Nazis were at Posies event in Melbourne were proven false, I’d take the claims any were in Auckland with a handful of salt. Certainly on live footage of Posie they weren’t there, they weren’t causing the violence, they were with the trans activists. Also there wasn’t a counter protest because Posie had an event, not a protest.

Stuff ran a story with the violent activist who threw soup at Posie, admitting he assaulted her and said he’d do it again. They ran it with no commentary on that position

Yeah sorry I should have been clearer! I was trying to say that even if we take landof(much)confusion at their word it still doesn't make the rainbow brigade look good!

namitynamechange · 30/03/2023 10:09

RosaBonheur · 30/03/2023 10:07

Maybe the police had their hands a bit full, what with all the trans activists physically assaulting women, and didn't have the capacity to deal with Nazi salutes as well?

I mean to be fair they weren't doing much to stop the women being assaulted either

RosaBonheur · 30/03/2023 10:12

landOFconfusion · 30/03/2023 08:41

The only person claiming they were unhindered is you. You are literally writing fantasy fiction to justify your opinions.

There were neo-Nazis in attendance. They were outnumbered by the counter-protestors.

Yes but why were the trans activist protesters focusing on women who were merely trying to speak, rather than the Nazis?

They outnumbered them, after all.

It's almost as if they think women, and not Nazis, are the enemy.

Whaeanui · 30/03/2023 10:12

I haven't looked at twitter as I don't have an account and didn't realise I could search it without one (thought it was like FB in that regard). Thank you for pointing that out to me, I will spend some time looking through there as well

Yes handy to know you don’t need an account, I absolutely don’t want one on twitter but if we didn’t have alternative platforms we wouldn’t see any of this either. I don’t know if you follow Mana Wahine Korero, I say follow but I mean ‘check in’, I check their twitter feed and that of Ani O’Brien as they are showing evidence. I did post on one of these threads the photos of that lady’s injuries. I know the women of Mana Wahine, who are in contact with the lady. They’ve tagged media in the footage and the lady’s photos and they’re still not reporting on it.

RosaBonheur · 30/03/2023 10:14

namitynamechange · 30/03/2023 10:09

I mean to be fair they weren't doing much to stop the women being assaulted either

Good point.

I mean, I think it's pretty clear that if the trans activists had just gone out for brunch, or got a manicure, or stayed at home watching TikTok, rather than showing up with their placards and their masks and their weapons to protest against women speaking about women's rights, there wouldn't have been any violence. No trans activists, no Nazis, just a small group of women peacefully talking about women's rights.

So why are New Zealand's politicians praising those responsible for the violence rather than condemning them?

Whaeanui · 30/03/2023 10:15

@namitynamechange yes, I got ya 😉 some pages ago several posters claimed Brian Tamaki was part of it, and then he came out and said he asked to join up with her but they turned him down and not a word from those that claimed he was part of her event. Both him and these neo Nazis were just there for the hell of it, they were, like the TRA’s, just there to ruin and take over a women’s event

Whaeanui · 30/03/2023 10:16

So why are New Zealand's politicians praising those responsible for the violence rather than condemning them?

Because they’re cowards and woman-haters.

ArabellaScott · 30/03/2023 12:25

hazeleyednerd · 30/03/2023 09:48

Genuinely asking here if you can share a link to anything showing where the woman's skull was fractured? There is nothing I can find in any NZ media (mainstream or otherwise) indicating this and my international news site searches have also been fruitless. If she in fact did have her skull fractured this is something I think would be important to kiwi women to know, to understand the violence.

I read it here:

https://twitter.com/MKorero/status/1641045431168946176

https://twitter.com/MKorero/status/1641045431168946176

RosaBonheur · 30/03/2023 12:39

The point of that noise was to make it impossible for Posie Parker to speak.

Saying the quiet part out loud there I see, Anna.

I note that neither of those disingenuous, virtue signalling twats saw fit to mention the assaults committed by those beautiful, rainbow coloured humans with "no room for hate" in their hearts.

ArabellaScott · 30/03/2023 12:46

Oh, it's fine to hate some people of course. In fact if they're declared non grata, or unhumanised, it's obligatory. The numbers of non-persons that the progressive genderists say we are obliged to hate grows every day.

SinnerBoy · 30/03/2023 13:47

Let me see if I've got this right. If you assemble in public and Nazis turn up, you're a Nazi? If so, why aren't all the TRA Zealots lining up to denounce one another as Nazis?

Anyway, I really hope that the thug who broke the old lady's skull is arrested soon and given the prison sentence he thoroughly deserves.

I'm still surprised that none of the ordinary news sites have reported it, if some hoodies had bashed her, it would be all over the front pages, until they were found and arrested.