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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Kellie-Jay Queen

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Soontobe60 · 25/03/2023 21:53

This woman has shown just how magnificent she can be in the face of hateful misogyny. When most of us might want to run away from such abuse and attacks, she stands strong.
History is full of such women. Let’s post photos of those Queens who stand up for women.

Kellie-Jay Queen
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NecessaryScene · 26/03/2023 10:20

We are so glad she's gone. Look, if you've got shit to sort out in the UK, maybe focus on that. We know our own people, we know our communities, your shit is not ours.

Remind me who are supposed to be the right-wingers again?

You sound like a member of whatever the NZ equivalent of the BNP is.

FrostyFifi · 26/03/2023 10:20

She enlists the support of the grotesque Brian Tamaki

Enlisted the support? I'd like to see evidence of that please.

Whaeanui · 26/03/2023 10:20

If she gave a shiny shit about any of us, she would spend time and try to read the room. We are still cleaning up after two catastrophic weather events. Our police force, weirdly enough, is not very impressed with a visitor making excessive demands because she feels she knows how better to New Zealand than the people of the land itself. They had actual stuff to do.

So, in a nutshell, issues that concern NZ women are not a priority and we have better things to do. What a shitty thing to say. Shameful.

Plenty of NZ women wanted to speak at that event, just because you didn’t doesn’t mean you get to say nobody wanted her. Grow up and go attend to all those things you think are more important.

knittingaddict · 26/03/2023 10:21

TomPinch · 26/03/2023 08:17

You set out your stall in a way that makes them not want to touch you.

If, say, KJK set herself out as either a campaigner for lesbian rights, or was just a very boring person I suspect they'd have left her alone.

Not easy, to be honest.

But she isn't just a campaigner for lesbians, is she? That would be a lie and suggests that it's just a lesbian problem, instead of an all female problem.

I agree, not easy, which is why all sorts turn up to these events. KJK is not responsible for that.

Whaeanui · 26/03/2023 10:22

She enlists the support of the grotesque Brian Tamaki, the rent-a-supremacist.

This is a fucking lie. Even the Herald said he was a counter protest. Honestly. This shit.

smileladiesplease · 26/03/2023 10:23

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Slothtoes · 26/03/2023 10:23

Thank you for the posts of these inspirational NZ Women’s rights Queens! Love this ❤️

Can anyone on here saying NZ is ‘backward’ Hmm please look at the UK. It will just take you a very quick google. We have had violent resistance to women’s rights events here too. We have had police ignore direct threats to women’s safety too. And our police harass women for saying online that you can’t change biological sex. We have multiple rapists housed in women’s prisons. For Christ’s sake wake up.

Whaeanui · 26/03/2023 10:24

Let’s just try to remain on topic to the thread! I must not respond to the derailers! Keep posting Queens like Posie 👍🏾

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/03/2023 10:24

My only disappointment around the Posie Parker thing is that anyone gave her any attention. The arrogance is mind blowing. Steps off a plane and imagines that the women of Aotearoa are in thrall to her. They're not.

Local women invited her. It was local women going to speak. Why are you so arrogant that you think you can speak over them?

MarshaBradyo · 26/03/2023 10:24

If, say, KJK set herself out as either a campaigner for lesbian rights

Well then she’s not relevant to many women who appreciate her campaigning as it is

I do want someone to speak for women not just a percentage of

Whaeanui · 26/03/2023 10:27

Can anyone on here saying NZ is ‘backward’ please look at the UK.

I’ve lived in both countries. We know the uk problems obviously. NZ has the highest rate of domestic violence in the world and their men’s rugby team have at least 2 abusers in it who got off without conviction for beating women. They get applauded every Saturday at the moment in super rugby. NZ definitely has deeper problems than the UK

beastlyslumber · 26/03/2023 10:29

Whaeanui · 26/03/2023 10:24

Let’s just try to remain on topic to the thread! I must not respond to the derailers! Keep posting Queens like Posie 👍🏾

This!

Nigelladamascena · 26/03/2023 10:33

KJK is amazing and so brave. She ripped off the bandage and showed the world the festering wound of misogyny. I wish I had her courage.

AlisonDonut · 26/03/2023 10:37

If KJK was campaigning for Lesbian Rights specifically, she may have been at the event yesterday. Also surrounded by men protecting their right to meet in a room without them.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4771088-lesbian-project-meeting-protested-by-men

smileladiesplease · 26/03/2023 10:38

Queens like posie

TheaBrandt · 26/03/2023 10:39

There were riots when the first women students started at Cambridge university…

twitterexile · 26/03/2023 10:41

TiedUpWithABlackVelvetBand · 26/03/2023 09:46

That handmaiden throwing the liquid over her.

Hopefully one day she will reflect and be ashamed.

Even the likes of Kate Sheppard were resisted by men, not women.

That was a bloke.

Whaeanui · 26/03/2023 10:46

This Queen needs no introduction!

Kellie-Jay Queen
waterlego · 26/03/2023 10:51

@Whaeanui Thank you so much for sharing the info on Eva Richard and Dame Whina Cooper. I had never heard of either woman and am so glad to learn about them and what they’ve both achieved.

Whaeanui · 26/03/2023 10:56

@waterlego you’re welcome!

Slothtoes · 26/03/2023 11:02

I haven’t lived in NZ Whaeanui and am not trying to underplay its problems but because some posters were saying that NZ is backward, I am just saying that we also have problems here in the UK and there isn’t any room for complacency.

No country in the world has achieved actual equality between the sexes so all countries are ‘backward’ on several measures of women’s rights.
https://www.weforum.org/reports/global-gender-gap-report-2022/digest/

The sporting world in the UK does support men who are by any reasonable standards abusers of women- I’m not a big follower of football so there may be better examples but the footballer Ched Evans was accused of rape, convicted but the overturned on appeal and details of what happened on the relevant night and how the case went are here. Evans continues to enjoy a professional career and has played football for Wales internationally 13 times.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Evans_and_McDonald

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/oct/14/footballer-ched-evans-cleared-of-in-retrial more context on the retrial here with quotes from women’s groups about how his initial conviction was then quashed after the sexual history of the woman was brought up in court by witnesses- around whom question marks of coaching and financial inducement were raised.

Slothtoes · 26/03/2023 11:04

I’lll nominate Magdalen Berns as a Queen. Flowers

Slothtoes · 26/03/2023 11:07

Also Prof Clara Greed on toilet provision for women- speaking here at a WPUK event:

BornBlonde · 26/03/2023 11:07

We all should be so grateful to her. She's a fighter and also a fantastic, intelligent, brave and well spoken woman

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