EfingNora · 22/03/2023 19:37

@Helleofabore "Why would anyone want to give such a group power in this way?"

Dunno why but you just reminded me of a JKR Dumbledore quote. "Fear of a name only increases fear of the thing itself"

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oceanskye · 22/03/2023 19:38

I am in NZ and so frustrated with the media here! In every article they refer to her as "anti-trans" and imply she has neo-nazi links and quote various people referring to her 'disgusting views' without every actually listing just what those view are.

Probably because they are aware if they did the average Kiwi would likely agree with her, but they are trying to discredit her so much people will just dismiss her as some white supremacist. It's actually shocking how one-sided they are being, even the "Who is Kelly Jay?" report one did still only presented a highly biased opinion and gave no airing of her actual views and beliefs.

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Helleofabore · 22/03/2023 19:55

I am gob smacked that there is such a thing as polite Neo-nazis who will obey and observe requests, but do you know what? Everyday is a learning day!

I shall make sure I write to the Holocaust Museum where these men took a photo and published it on social media. I shall tell them to be very clear on their website that the National Socialist Network should NOT come and do a salute and post it to social media . And they will never have an issue again.

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Helleofabore · 22/03/2023 19:57

By the way, someone should contact Kellie Jay Keen to use the same tactic on the person on twitter who threatened her daughter by posting that they knew her daughter's location.

Yeah... that should work too.

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raspberrywine · 22/03/2023 20:10

oceanskye · 22/03/2023 19:38

I am in NZ and so frustrated with the media here! In every article they refer to her as "anti-trans" and imply she has neo-nazi links and quote various people referring to her 'disgusting views' without every actually listing just what those view are.

Probably because they are aware if they did the average Kiwi would likely agree with her, but they are trying to discredit her so much people will just dismiss her as some white supremacist. It's actually shocking how one-sided they are being, even the "Who is Kelly Jay?" report one did still only presented a highly biased opinion and gave no airing of her actual views and beliefs.

It's quite something to see, isn't it? Such vitriolic nonsense? Why? Because by focusing on her so-called fascist views it takes away the focus on them and their ideology, built upon sand. It takes away the fact that their ideology doesn't have strong foundations or strong arguments other than "because I say so". Spotlight is taken away from the likes of Barbie K, the likes of babies being exposed to BDSM, Drag queens story hour, puberty blockers, double mastectomies and on and on and on. Because by shouting at women and calling us names is easy but making an argument for their side is impossible.

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Boiledbeetle · 22/03/2023 20:26

Ah another KJK thread going well I see?

Everyone OK👌in here?

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FOJN · 22/03/2023 20:30

Boiled MN are going to revoke your giffing privileges.

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Boiledbeetle · 22/03/2023 20:37

Number 9 is looking rather dodgy

New Zealand Newshub blurs out KJK's "Nazi" (allegedly) hand movement

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beastlyslumber · 22/03/2023 20:40

So, landofconfusion is what's known as a LOLCOW - a person so gullible to 4chan memes that 4chan finds it hilarious to keep milking them for laughs.

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beastlyslumber · 22/03/2023 20:41

It's not as funny as the person who thinks the way to defeat Nazis is just to very politely ask them to go away. If only we had a time machine we could go back and let Churchill know!

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lechiffre55 · 22/03/2023 20:43

Whatever she said she would be accused of something bad. Which is why she gets the necessary approval and just turns up. She follows the rules as laid down.

This is always the way. If she said "I don't want any nazis turning up" the very next thing the smear would be "Look KJK is such a meanie that she has to tell nazis not to run up at her rallies!!!" "KJK admits she attracts nazis!!"
There's always a way to spin things negatively. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

In a way it sort of doesn't matter. The people smearing her have made their minds up. What they are doing is not in good faith, and they know it, but they don't care. To them the ends justify any means no matter how dishonest.

KJK gives women a voice at her events, she doesn't even know what they are going to say. I don't think the agressive TRAs realise that it is they not the women speaking is what KJK is trying to get the world to take notice of. All the aggression, threats, violence, intimidation, misogeny from sad incel beta animae furry males empowered and emboldened out of their drab existences by their black block uniform anonymity just because women want to speak IS the story. Without that you've got a few dozen women talking out loud in a park. It is the very religious fevour and fanatical zealotry of this insane movement that KJK is exposing and using to make her point. She is playing them, and they think they are fighting her. Without them KJK wouldn't have all the publicity and attention she does. And they are too stupid to even see that.

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Boiledbeetle · 22/03/2023 20:43

FOJN · 22/03/2023 20:30

Boiled MN are going to revoke your giffing privileges.

Next you'll be telling me they're taking my bigly powers as well!

flyingbuttress43 · 2023-03-22 10:45:27

[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d43augc86xI [[//www.youtube.com/watch?v=d43augc86xI]] As will all these media reports of KJK comments are turned off. Wonder why. No I don't. You couldn't make it up - except mainstream Aus and NZ media are.

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raspberrywine · 22/03/2023 20:45

Boiledbeetle · 22/03/2023 20:37

Number 9 is looking rather dodgy

Yeah, means arsehole in Brazil. A few of them around here today.

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Boiledbeetle · 22/03/2023 20:46

Such fun!

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BernardBlacksMolluscs · 22/03/2023 20:47

not remotely relevant, but I think this might just be my favourite gif

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Boiledbeetle · 22/03/2023 20:48

raspberrywine · 22/03/2023 20:45

Yeah, means arsehole in Brazil. A few of them around here today.

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Please tell me that's true!

It's hard to tell these days

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raspberrywine · 22/03/2023 20:49

What? Arseholes round here today? Totally true.

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lechiffre55 · 22/03/2023 20:50

@beastlyslumber
So, landofconfusion is what's known as a LOLCOW - a person so gullible to 4chan memes that 4chan finds it hilarious to keep milking them for laughs.

Appropriate that you should use the word milking. As well as the OK symbol 4chan also launched another hoax/trolling campaign to convine people that milk was racist too. It's white and african americans have statistically higher rates of lactose intolerance, thus milk was declared racist and drinking milk was a form of white supremacy. It took off and got just as much traction among the terminally gullible vacuum headed brigade as the OK symbol troll.

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Boiledbeetle · 22/03/2023 20:53

So, out of curiosity, as I had noticed the gifs that come up without a search term tend to change during the day, I wondered what would come up at 5 ish in the morning. So as my cat was insistent that I was wide awake at 5 this morning I checked.

It was this.

Totally not related to the thread, but I think by now we've established that the new Zealand's news channel are arseholes and some posters think a universally, more or less, agreed sign for OK, that's been used for OK for all of my many years of lives, indicates something bad.