New Zealand Newshub blurs out KJK's "Nazi" (allegedly) hand movement

[flyingbuttress43]

As will all these media reports of KJK comments are turned off. Wonder why. No I don't.

You couldn't make it up - except mainstream Aus and NZ media are.

[Redebs]

@IWilloBeACervix

That’s just insane. I’m really at the point where I just don’t believe anything that the media reports.

And did the presenter just say
"AKA radical transphobe"?

[Redebs]

@ArabellaScott

I see. Maybe women should wear oven gloves, to avoid any unfortunate misunderstandings. And stay quiet. Best all round, really.

Make sure both arms are at the same height too.
Ingenious!

[beastlyslumber]

OMG you lot. A woman fiddled with her zip and it's like YOU DON'T EVEN CARE! What's the matter with you?

People have come on here IN GOOD FAITH to explain why a woman fiddling with her zip is SO UPSETTING and BAD. And all you can do is make silly jokes as though it's NOT some awful sign of incipient fascism and just some woman messing with her zip.

And when people make PARTICULARLY GOOD POINTS about the woman messing with zip scandal, you all GANG UP to make sure no one reads the good points. Because you don't want good points, do you? You only want BAD POINTS because you are BAD PEOPLE.

I'm going to FLOUNCE! And then I'm going to come back! And then I'll probably flounce again! THAT WILL LEARN YA.

[CryptoFascistMadameCholet]

I just saw the deep fakes of Donald Trump’s arrest and thought to myself, ‘I wonder if Land0 thinks these are real too?’


https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/1637927681734987777

[Boiledbeetle]

@beastlyslumber noooooooo. Don't flounce.

Don't leave us!. Once I've finished flailing on the floor I'll need help trying to get this coat off. the zip is stuck!

[beastlyslumber]

Flouncing!

[IcakethereforeIam]

Wait! Kekistan isn't real!? I have to tell my penpal in San Serriffe, they're supposed to be moving there! I'm supposed to have transferred them money to help with the costs. I've not done it yet because, well frankly, I'm scared to move anything in case I accidentally mobilise a crypto-fascist. That happened to a friend of mine's great grandma. She shaking the dust off a cloth, the next think she knew Poland was being invaded!

[CryptoFascistMadameCholet]

I hear San Seriffe is particularly nice during Winterval?

[BernardBlacksMolluscs]

One thing that’s boggling me is the glimpse into Aussie politics. I watched a clip from an Australian politician wearing a cowboy hat standing on his ranch earlier suggesting Lidia liesonthefloor should become a police officer (bad idea)

it’s definitely a different country Toto

[ArabellaScott]

Ooh we've not had a good flounce in a while. Put your back into it, beastly!

[IcakethereforeIam]

Oddly enough the duster waving incident was caught on camera.

I'm hoping to visit my friend in time for the spaghetti harvest.

[lechiffre55]

This thread reminds me of the very old joke about the man banging his head against a brick wall. His forhead is bloody, raw, and lumpy. A woman asks him why he's banging his head aginst the wall. "Because it's fukking wonderful when I stop."

Yer not being oppressed. Your speech is not being vetoed. The amount of times you're being quoted proves this. I think you're just getting frustrated that mumsnet is clearly not talking you seriously. I'm sure I can hear feet stamping in the distance.
The definition of when you make a good point is when you make someone who disagrees with you think and reconsider. It is not when you think you've made a good point. Scoring yourself is a little bit biased and narcissistic, even more so when you take that self awarded gold medal seriously.

I do appreciate that you admit you know what the heckler's veto is. That's very interesting given all the attempts to shut KJK by using the heckler's veto and not rational argument. So for that I do think you made a good point, although I think you may have dug a bit of a hole for yourself in making that point. But given how deep the hole already is on the OK gesture it doesn't really make any difference.

[RufustheSpeculatingreindeer]

@landOFconfusion

You made the mistake of writing a serious post. Which is why all the gifs have suddenly been deployed to stop people from reading it.

How does it stop people reading it?

[beastlyslumber]

@RufustheSpeculatingreindeer

How does it stop people reading it?

Makes their eyes all swirly...

[BernardBlacksMolluscs]

You made the mistake of writing a serious post. Which is why all the gifs have suddenly been deployed to stop people from reading it.

how do you wims feel about being part of a massive conspiracy? I must say, I’m enjoying it so far

[beastlyslumber]

@BernardBlacksMolluscs

You made the mistake of writing a serious post. Which is why all the gifs have suddenly been deployed to stop people from reading it.

how do you wims feel about being part of a massive conspiracy? I must say, I’m enjoying it so far

Yeah I love it. Definitely don't want anyone reading any serious posts. MUST NOT LET THEM READ SERIOUS WORDS!

[ArabellaScott]

To be fair I did post a gif that made me feel like I was suffocating and hypnotised and on the brink of something awful. But only in the spirit of horrified wtf. Deeply apologise if its stopped someone from engaging.

And yes, the 'heckler's veto' is an interesting idea. I will look into that.

The 'zipper fascist' hand signal, however, I have looked at and concluded is thorough out and out and utter complete bullshit nonsense. So I'm certainly not going to spend a second more of my life wondering whether it means anything that a woman did up her jumper.

There is the larger issue of the fact that a section of the Aussie media are apparently this embarrasingly fucking gullible/mendacious, but I'm not really placed to comment on that. I would be interested to hear more on how we have got to the point where a presumably serious news channel would be hoodwinked by this guff/attempt to hoodwink their viewers.

[Boiledbeetle]

@beastlyslumber

Yeah I love it. Definitely don't want anyone reading any serious posts. MUST NOT LET THEM READ SERIOUS WORDS!

Look into my eyes...you are feeling relaxed....sleepy....your eyelids are heavy.....when you awake you will only read the gif posts. You will ignore all attempts by uninformed or informed posters to involve you in debate. Instead you will go in search of cats with eyebrows gifs.

And 3...2...1...you're back in the room.

[Whaeanui]

Kia Ora e hoa!

Ive been off and on MN for over a decade before I get called a troll or something! Newly rejoined.

Im a Maori wahine and I made a complaint to Newshub about this video and their smear about her. Sorry if I missed anyone else updating this thread, but they have now removed their false claim she made a white supremacy gesture and the clip of her is no longer blurred. They did not respond to my complaint or issue an apology though. Newshub is a nothing really, it only exists because it’s government funded, like a lot and I think all now, nz media. I’m embarrassed of our media on a good day but horrified at their behaviour now.

let’s get a reality check about Aotearoa.

it is a deeply deeply misogynistic place, far worse than the UK. I’ve lived long term in both countries. It’s also horrifically racist. The global image of NZ is so far off what it actually is it just frustrates the heck out of me. But trust me, my elderly mum still gets racism on the street and at work. Regularly. The treaty of waitangi has never ever been honoured by the crown or government.

So when we say things like ‘women in NZ’ ‘ kiwi women’ think this or that…. almost always you’ll get someone speaking from a place of privilege on our behalf and completely out of touch with Maori and working class people. I’ve seen the names of people going to the counter protest and it’s a list of self absorbed nobodies who have done nothing for women or their people, who collude with a government that does not and has never properly addressed the contact between us, who actively and persistently pursue policies and laws which ignore Te Ao Maori, ignore the health and wealth disparities and do not address women’s safety and health needs- we have one of if not the highest rates of domestic violence in the developed world. Men who commit acts of violence against women and children usually get away with it, especially if they play one of the top sports.

A large chunk of NZ is unaware of what the self ID laws really mean and completely ignorant of the health concerns around transing children. No media ever give an even slightly negative view of any of this. NZ is small and they do live in a bubble of their own so there’s a huge lack of awareness. But within my own circles, Maori women are very against this in the main, some just go along as we know a lot of women do. They have a huge battle to be heard at all in NZ and are treated worse than in the UK. Most choose silence because they’re scared. This trip of Posies, like when Meghan Murphy visited, will just make more women aware because of the huge campaign against her going on.

Kia Kaha Posie and all the women going, Ani O’Brien and others… you are going to need to be strong to stand what is coming at you and I wish I could be with you. I hope my brothers back home step up to protect you, we are big and we are used to media trashing us and were people telling us what to think.

[beastlyslumber]

Im a Maori wahine and I made a complaint to Newshub about this video and their smear about her. Sorry if I missed anyone else updating this thread, but they have now removed their false claim she made a white supremacy gesture and the clip of her is no longer blurred

Thank you! They should have apologised, to you personally, and publically to all.

[Boiledbeetle]

@Whaeanui thank you that's good to hear about the clip. Not so good, but not unsurprising to hear about the levels of misogyny. And the facts that people are unaware of what's going on.

[Whaeanui]

They should have apologised, to you personally, and publically to all. Yes, instead they’re pretending it never happened! I hope someone got a copy of the original.

I have only ever had 3 complaints upheld by NZ media. I’ve made a lot! This one. Two others from two different publications were a sports writer making racist comments, about Maori and Latino rugby players. Same journalist, different media. Stuff NZ apologised profusely, they’re generally crap about stuff with women and are TWAW, and NZ Herald edited his article but never replied or apologised to anyone. NZ media are horrible, truly awful. Always have been. In the 90’s my mother and I were at a Maori land rights protest that was long running and local and national media printed bare faced lies about us intimidating white people with hammers! They literally said we had the mob at the gates of a public space ( stolen ) and had hammers stopping people entering! In reality we had early morning Tai Chi classes, flax weaving classes, an open kitchen anyone could eat at, and lots and lots of singing and playing children.

[DameMaud]

@Boiledbeetle

Look into my eyes...you are feeling relaxed....sleepy....your eyelids are heavy.....when you awake you will only read the gif posts. You will ignore all attempts by uninformed or informed posters to involve you in debate. Instead you will go in search of cats with eyebrows gifs.

And 3...2...1...you're back in the room.

Wow! If you look at this one for a while then read the words - they go all wobbly!

[RufustheSpeculatingreindeer]

@FOJN

If you make a particularly good point there will be a call to arms to fabricate a series of abusive posts so that Mumsnet moderators feel obliged to pull the thread so no-one can read the challenge to the FWR orthodoxy.

Lol confession through projection? That's from the TRA playbook.

Its an outright lie

[IcakethereforeIam]

@Whaeanui I'm so sorry. I know very little of New Zealand but I was getting the feeling the news from there was curated. I knew a little about the rates of dv which didn't square with all the feel good stories. There's a thread today about unquestionally transing kids in NZ which is frankly horrifying.

If you've read this thread I hope at least the silly stuff has given you a laugh (I mean the intentionally silly stuff).