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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Come on Ireland! Leo Varadkar says violent males should NOT be in prison with women

330 replies

ArabellaScott · 21/03/2023 19:08

https://twitter.com/griptmedia/status/1638242240609804288

'"Is Barbie Kardashian a woman?": Taoiseach Leo Varadkar says that biological males should not be put in women's prisons.'

https://twitter.com/griptmedia/status/1638242240609804288

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TheBiologyStupid · 26/03/2023 11:09

miri1985 · 26/03/2023 08:40

Am I wrong or is that the first time one of the broadsheets has published a picture of BK?

Thanks, miri. Those Independent pieces are good, especially Eilis O'Hanlon's.

ohnoitsagruffalo · 27/03/2023 10:17

I can't get past the payroll for that article, does anyone have a link please 🙏

Genesis1v27 · 27/03/2023 10:20

Try this: https://tinyurl.com/mvp93ehy

Genesis1v27 · 27/03/2023 10:21

ohnoitsagruffalo · 27/03/2023 10:17

I can't get past the payroll for that article, does anyone have a link please 🙏

https://mobile.twitter.com/inchyjohnny/status/1639966181393088512

ohnoitsagruffalo · 29/03/2023 08:41

Thanks both. What a great article!

Genesis1v27 · 29/03/2023 13:28

John Lonergan, former governor of Mountjoy Prison, was on Newstalk on Monday:

Housing transgender prisoners 'has to be compromise', ex-Mountjoy governor says

ArabellaScott · 29/03/2023 13:32

former governor of Dublin's Mountjoy Prison sounds pretty terfy to me.

'"The Government in 2015 brought out legislation to... give people the right to transition if that was their option," he said.
"It became a human right; I'm sure when they were passing the legislation... they did not consider some of the consequences - like prisons.
"We know in sport it's now becoming an issue, it's going to be an issue in other residential institutions and residential centres - and maybe for hospitals and for the Garda Síochána in due course".'

Although:

'Mr Lonergan said a person's crime and history should be taken into account.
"If it's a crime of non-violence - embezzlement or fraud - and there's no violence in his previous history and he's transitioned, then it doesn't raise the same concerns," he said.'

It does raise concerns. Once again, as so often, a male fails to see the issue through the eyes of a woman.

Incarcerated women, oftens with a history of trauma, may well have responses to males whatever the crime they've committed.

Sonia O'Sullivan: Banning male-to-female trans athletes 'a good call'

The World Athletics Council is to exclude male-to-female transgender athletes who have been through male puberty from female competitions

https://www.newstalk.com/news/sonia-osullivan-banning-male-to-female-trans-athletes-a-good-call-1449793

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VaddaABeetch · 29/03/2023 15:30

I’ve met John Lonergan he is a pillar of sense & a man truly concerned with prisoner welfare.

Mommymoments · 29/03/2023 15:34

https://gript.ie/panti-bliss-slammed-for-saying-woman-attacked-in-nz-will-learn-again-in-dublin/

Panti Bliss (or Rory🙄) saying the woman's rights activist who was attacked by trans groups in NZ "will learn again" when she comes to Dublin for her women's rights rally. The women's rights rally that will be countered by a trans one the same day.
What a horrible man making those awful comments. The Gardaí need to investigate this for inciting hate & violence towards this women & all women.

Panti Bliss slammed for saying woman attacked in NZ will “learn again in Dublin” - Gript

Panti Bliss slammed for saying woman attacked in NZ will “learn again in Dublin”

https://gript.ie/panti-bliss-slammed-for-saying-woman-attacked-in-nz-will-learn-again-in-dublin

CreationNat1on · 29/03/2023 16:01

What an abusive remark..... He and the TRANS Activists will forcibly teach the women's rights activists to STFU. Abusive.

Mommymoments · 29/03/2023 16:05

And he words for RTÉ who are not reporting this. RTÉ who only report pro trans propoganda. RTÉ are actively engaging in state controlled censorship. These comments by Mr Rory need to be dealt with by the Gardaí pronto.

StephanieSuperpowers · 29/03/2023 16:08

VaddaABeetch · 29/03/2023 15:30

I’ve met John Lonergan he is a pillar of sense & a man truly concerned with prisoner welfare.

It's a shame such men can't extend their empathy to women. I wish it was a continual shock, but at this stage, it isn't. It's how you know that transwomen are men and men know it. They can identify with, and sympathise with, transwomen's concerns. But nottranswomenwomen? Not a chance.

nilsmousehammer · 29/03/2023 16:11

Women to be beaten by male supremacist activists if they open their mouths near those men and their supporters about women having equality.

Yep, at least it's now being named for what it actually is.

Wtf is the matter with these men, is there anyone in our political class now not wholly insane or corrupt? Wtf is going on in the political university courses?

nilsmousehammer · 29/03/2023 16:13

And yes will wait for the Gardai to speak with Bliss. Unless they too are also batshit and think beating women who want equality is a Jolly Good Thing.

VaddaABeetch · 29/03/2023 16:13

Mr O’Neil is employed by RTE out national broadcaster.

how can RTE ignore this.

Mommymoments · 29/03/2023 16:13

Mr Rory Panti needs to be removed from RTÉ after these womanphobic comments. We pay our tv licences annually. Rté must not support his woman hating views.

Emotionalsupportviper · 29/03/2023 19:06

VaddaABeetch · 29/03/2023 15:30

I’ve met John Lonergan he is a pillar of sense & a man truly concerned with prisoner welfare.

But only male prisoner welfare, it seems.

VaddaABeetch · 29/03/2023 19:27

@Emotionalsupportviper i should have been clearer. I agree. A man not even seeing women’s concerns.

miri1985 · 29/03/2023 23:16

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/politics/arid-41105083.html

How bloody slow are they that they're only having this discussion now. I mean if you couldn't forsee that these would be issues then you really shouldn't be in charge of legislating.

As usual theres a fair amount of condescension as if people with concerns just need more education

Varadkar doesn't want Fine Gael 'dragged into' a culture war on transgender issues

At a private meeting of the party, Fine Gael TDs and senators expressed a wide range of views on transgender issues

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/politics/arid-41105083.html

Mommymoments · 29/03/2023 23:31

The comments under this post & a similar independent article are fantastic. The tide is turning, the pressure needs to be put on the to reverse the gender recognition act.

Mommymoments · 29/03/2023 23:36

At least the comments were! Examiner after deleting & closing comments... Censorship again. However if the article was about Enoch or the Catholic Church they would leave posters give them hell. Again highlighting how trans are a protected species here in the good old Emereld Isle..

StephanieSuperpowers · 30/03/2023 07:23

I think the culture war is from those enacting this legislation, not those opposing it.

Mommymoments · 30/03/2023 07:25

Can the GRA be reversed?

Childrenofthestones · 30/03/2023 07:32

Forget the violence, no offender of any sort with a cock should share facilities and cells with women. 1 in 6 women walking around today are carrying the trauma of a rape or serious sexual assault. You cam multiply that figure for women that end up in prison.

The most sickening thing in all this debacle is the sight of privileged, middle class, uni educated feminists who will never go inside a prison in their lifetime, condemning the most vulnerable working class women in the country, many of them rape survivors, to share showers and sleep in a locked room with somebody with a penis and if the complain, they are called bigots