Come on Ireland! Leo Varadkar says violent males should NOT be in prison with women

[ArabellaScott]

https://twitter.com/griptmedia/status/1638242240609804288

'"Is Barbie Kardashian a woman?": Taoiseach Leo Varadkar says that biological males should not be put in women's prisons.'

[nilsmousehammer]

@Receiverofrage

I’m sorry but this gives me the rage. All these politicians pretending that ‘oh. I hadn’t thought of that. Only just heard about it to be honest! I’m a bit blind-sided. I’ll look into it’.

Their defense is effectively. ‘Oh sorry, I’m really incompetent! I’ve never bothered considering the implications of the policies and laws my government pushes through! Was I meant to? That’s part of my job? Really? Oh I never realized that!!! Oh, and you say lots of women said this would happen if I pushed those policies and laws through? Oh, I never listened to them, they’re just women. And some of them were middle aged or even older. It never occurred to me they were worth listening to, tbh. And it certainly never crossed my mind that was part of my job. Like I say, I’m incompetent so I never think anything through really, so you can’t blame me if these things happen!’

Stop the faux surprise and innocence you lying fucking tosser. I’ve really lost my patience with these utter arseholes.

This pretty much summarises what I'd like to send to every politician and leadership of services and agencies. There will be a few who'll try to say "well yes I knew, but it would have made me unpopular to have insisted we did things ethically or by policy, or did actual safeguarding.... well, yes, I get paid the money to do the job and take the flak, but I didn't want to deal with the twitter screams and nasty emails.'

No accountability. None. And no sense of responsibility, professionalism or ethics either.

[miri1985]

@Receiverofrage

I’m sorry but this gives me the rage. All these politicians pretending that ‘oh. I hadn’t thought of that. Only just heard about it to be honest! I’m a bit blind-sided. I’ll look into it’.

Their defense is effectively. ‘Oh sorry, I’m really incompetent! I’ve never bothered considering the implications of the policies and laws my government pushes through! Was I meant to? That’s part of my job? Really? Oh I never realized that!!! Oh, and you say lots of women said this would happen if I pushed those policies and laws through? Oh, I never listened to them, they’re just women. And some of them were middle aged or even older. It never occurred to me they were worth listening to, tbh. And it certainly never crossed my mind that was part of my job. Like I say, I’m incompetent so I never think anything through really, so you can’t blame me if these things happen!’

Stop the faux surprise and innocence you lying fucking tosser. I’ve really lost my patience with these utter arseholes.

It will be the exact same when the HSE ends up spending millions on settlements to pediatric transitions. All the politicans will claim ignorance and call it a scandal and blame someone else

[Penniless]

@Receiverofrage

I’m sorry but this gives me the rage. All these politicians pretending that ‘oh. I hadn’t thought of that. Only just heard about it to be honest! I’m a bit blind-sided. I’ll look into it’.

Their defense is effectively. ‘Oh sorry, I’m really incompetent! I’ve never bothered considering the implications of the policies and laws my government pushes through! Was I meant to? That’s part of my job? Really? Oh I never realized that!!! Oh, and you say lots of women said this would happen if I pushed those policies and laws through? Oh, I never listened to them, they’re just women. And some of them were middle aged or even older. It never occurred to me they were worth listening to, tbh. And it certainly never crossed my mind that was part of my job. Like I say, I’m incompetent so I never think anything through really, so you can’t blame me if these things happen!’

Stop the faux surprise and innocence you lying fucking tosser. I’ve really lost my patience with these utter arseholes.

Yes, that’s pretty much it, verbatim.

[UtopiaPlanitia]

@Receiverofrage

I’m sorry but this gives me the rage. All these politicians pretending that ‘oh. I hadn’t thought of that. Only just heard about it to be honest! I’m a bit blind-sided. I’ll look into it’.

Their defense is effectively. ‘Oh sorry, I’m really incompetent! I’ve never bothered considering the implications of the policies and laws my government pushes through! Was I meant to? That’s part of my job? Really? Oh I never realized that!!! Oh, and you say lots of women said this would happen if I pushed those policies and laws through? Oh, I never listened to them, they’re just women. And some of them were middle aged or even older. It never occurred to me they were worth listening to, tbh. And it certainly never crossed my mind that was part of my job. Like I say, I’m incompetent so I never think anything through really, so you can’t blame me if these things happen!’

Stop the faux surprise and innocence you lying fucking tosser. I’ve really lost my patience with these utter arseholes.

Hear, hear. Well said! 👏👏

[Receiverofrage]

I’m sorry but this gives me the rage. All these politicians pretending that ‘oh. I hadn’t thought of that. Only just heard about it to be honest! I’m a bit blind-sided. I’ll look into it’.

Their defense is effectively. ‘Oh sorry, I’m really incompetent! I’ve never bothered considering the implications of the policies and laws my government pushes through! Was I meant to? That’s part of my job? Really? Oh I never realized that!!! Oh, and you say lots of women said this would happen if I pushed those policies and laws through? Oh, I never listened to them, they’re just women. And some of them were middle aged or even older. It never occurred to me they were worth listening to, tbh. And it certainly never crossed my mind that was part of my job. Like I say, I’m incompetent so I never think anything through really, so you can’t blame me if these things happen!’

Stop the faux surprise and innocence you lying fucking tosser. I’ve really lost my patience with these utter arseholes.

[Believerinbiology]

The summary stats from the census are out although will have to wait til later in the year to find out how they're going to report the sex and religion figures.

[Believerinbiology]

I know it's an old post but just wanted to point out that Izzy Kamikaze is a well known Irish lesbian (and when I say lesbian I mean the old fashioned kind) involved in LGB activism since the early 80s. I completely disagree with her on her trans stance but respect the work she has done over the years. She was viciously attacked by a masked anti-mask protester with a wooden plank a few years ago. I don't think I'm alone in believing that there are a number of men who attach themselves to various organisations/protests with the sole intent of using it as an excuse for acts of intimidation and violence (highlighted by supposed anti-maskers wearing masks/face coverings at protests).

[DeanVolecapeAKAelderberry]

I wish Irish men and Irish women were a bit more pushy about Constitutional rights (like the right to education). It would put the fear of god in the present generation of politicians.

[DeanVolecapeAKAelderberry]

The referendum 'on the status of women' is going to be an odd one. At present, the Constitution is being read as having a very 1930s 'a woman's place is in the home' message. But that could be read as meaning 'a woman has a right to a life in her home', which implies that 'a woman has a right to a home', with woman, in present legislation, meaning everybody if they want that identity and that right.

I think I'll be voting for no change.

[Abhannmor]

Perhaps they imagined they could long finger it til after the election. But there is no chance of that - and its all their own doing.

They are pressing ahead with the ban on ' conversion therapy '. Again hoping to use gay people as a human shield. Discredited therapies to convince gay people they are straight are not used in Ireland. This ban is really an attack on parental rights. If your child thinks they are in the wrong body only Affirmation will be allowed.

Secondly, the Referendum on the status of women. They don't want it to be about trans issues? Tough. Next up : we don't want to talk about the homeless or the hospital waiting lists.Thank you for your cooperation.

[miri1985]

McEntee is back as Minister for Justice this week and we know has signed off on transwomen being placed in the female estate in the past. Hope a brave journalist asks her a question about her position on this now. FG seem to be very much in electioneering mode already and I doubt want this to be an issue.

Wonder whats happening with the guidance the prison service were developing, its taking a long while

[PlantingMarigolds]

@RealFeminist

NAE BOTHER HEN

🤣

[Emotionalsupportviper]

@Mommymoments

The womanphobes are getting pissed off, Ireland's waking up. I'm going to have a glass of prosecco tonight to celebrate the country's awakening 😜 Prosecco is a TERFs poison of choice after all according to the woman haters!

<reaches for gin>

I . . . I . . . mustn't be a proper TERF, then 😧

<distraught>

<drowns sorrows>

[Emotionalsupportviper]

I love the "dare" - "Izzy Kamikaze" is obviously the inverted pink triangle* poster's real name, of course.

*Insulting to gay men and to many victims of the holocaust to use this symbol. It was sewn onto the uniform of homosexuals imprisoned in Nazi concentration camps, and the trans movement appears determined to negate homosexuals.

[Mommymoments]

@TheBiologyStupid I don't know who John Dresden is but he was sticking us for us lovely mumsnetters 😊

[Mommymoments]

The womanphobes are getting pissed off, Ireland's waking up. I'm going to have a glass of prosecco tonight to celebrate the country's awakening 😜 Prosecco is a TERFs poison of choice after all according to the woman haters!

[TheBiologyStupid]

Sorry to see from another thread here that your posts are being maligned by the usual suspects, Mommymoments:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4775633-roderic-o-gorman-irish-minister-tweet-for-trans-visibility-huge-backlash-in-ireland-read-comments-under-tweet?reply=125084893&utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

[UtopiaPlanitia]

@Mommymoments

The woman hating womanphobes are not liking all the people in Ireland emailing the tds! Panti's knickers in a twist all day retweeting!
Lets up the ante & let ALL our TDs & Ministers know we want womens rights & spaces for biological women only.

How dare we write to our elected representatives and apprise them of our concerns 😏 We’re just supposed to take our lumps quietly like the good little women and/or culchies that we are. It’s up to the sophisticated, worldly-wise middle-class types like Rory and Roderick etc to know what’s good for us lowly plebs

/s

[Mommymoments]

The tide is changing. I have very liberal left wing mum friends. They had no issues at all with transgenderism each to their own etc attitude...
Now with the new sex curriculum proposed change "teaching" young innocent children about transgenderism, the GAA letting men on girls teams & Barbie Kardashian they have woken up & want to put a stop to the nonsense.

[nilsmousehammer]

Cos people worried about women's equality and children's safeguarding obviously don't worry for any other reason than signalling being right wing extremists doing it to piss off the righteous.

Which makes you wonder what the actual fuck the left think they're doing, if caring about such things is now anathema to them.

[Mommymoments]

The woman hating womanphobes are not liking all the people in Ireland emailing the tds! Panti's knickers in a twist all day retweeting!
Lets up the ante & let ALL our TDs & Ministers know we want womens rights & spaces for biological women only.

[Mommymoments]

I do feel Leo has more cop on that Roderick (who at the very least should the gay community do not was to be associated with transgenderism). Leo will go where the votes are. Women, parents & the gay community are collectively a huge demographic who do not want trans on our GAA women's teams, prisons, changing areas or spaces.
Fine Gael need to start lobbying for trans sports teams, trans toilets, changing rooms & prisons. No more of this letting them into ours.

[Wanderingowl]

The "gender equality" referendum is going to be extremely interesting. Leo just said that he doesn't want to see it highjacked by the trans debate. Suggesting that he knows full will this will be a trans issues referendum. The thing the stupid fuckers don't seem to realise it that it's constitutional law that both sides of a referendum debate have to be given equal debate time on RTE. There was nearly a meltdown last year when Joe Duffy allowed a bit of debate about women not liking to be called 'people with cervixes' on Liveline. But now they could very easily find that they have made it mandatory for this to be debated on prime time television for hours upon hours before the referendum. They are torpedoing 'no debate' and they rely on 'no debate.'

[Mommymoments]

@StephanieSuperpowers they won't get the lgb vote either especially now after Roderics genius tweet😁 not one comment of support & majority from the lgb community who have worked tirelessly for their rights.

[StephanieSuperpowers]

It's an unusual political party that doesn't need women or parents' votes, but good luck to them off their polling says that this will win more votes than they'll lose.