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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Julie Bindel v Billy Bragg

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sashh · 15/03/2023 02:35

Billy Bragg has tweeted.

Julie Bindel takes to right wing GBNews to smear the trans community with the same trope that was used against gay men in the 1980s - that they are all paedophiles. Has she forgotten that made gays a target for physical violence? Does she care if trans people are now targeted too.

Julie has given him 24 hours to appologise or she will take legal action.

This is the interview

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ApocalipstickNow · 17/03/2023 17:51

A political nob end.

TheBiologyStupid · 17/03/2023 19:08

Minirrriot · 17/03/2023 16:46

I think the people calling Julie a political lesbian part comes from the fact she frequently say things such as "all women can be lesbians," when, frankly, they can't. They are getting mixed up with the fact that Julie is not a political lesbian but she often espouses political lesbian ideology.

Billy Bragg is a proper knobend tho...

Julie seems to embrace political lesbianism, for example in this piece she wrote for The Guardian: www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2009/jan/30/women-gayrights

Signalbox · 17/03/2023 20:52

TheBiologyStupid · 17/03/2023 19:08

Julie seems to embrace political lesbianism, for example in this piece she wrote for The Guardian: www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2009/jan/30/women-gayrights

"To me, political lesbianism continues to make intrinsic sense because it reinforces the idea that sexuality is a choice, and we are not destined to a particular fate because of our chromosomes. I also suspect that it is very difficult to spend your daily life fighting against male violence, only to share a bed with a man come the evening. Then there's the fact that working with women towards a common goal means you develop a strong and passionate bond with them - why some feminists then block out the possibility of sexual relationships with their political sisters and instead turn to men for intimacy is beyond me."

I just don't understand this.

TheBiologyStupid · 17/03/2023 21:23

Yes, very odd to see lesbianism as a "possibility" that heterosexual feminists somehow irrationally "block out".

PorcelinaV · 17/03/2023 21:23

Signalbox · 17/03/2023 20:52

"To me, political lesbianism continues to make intrinsic sense because it reinforces the idea that sexuality is a choice, and we are not destined to a particular fate because of our chromosomes. I also suspect that it is very difficult to spend your daily life fighting against male violence, only to share a bed with a man come the evening. Then there's the fact that working with women towards a common goal means you develop a strong and passionate bond with them - why some feminists then block out the possibility of sexual relationships with their political sisters and instead turn to men for intimacy is beyond me."

I just don't understand this.

If you are bisexual then you maybe do have some sort of choice to prefer women over men for "political" reasons.

If you are only romantically interested in men, not really.

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