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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Julie Bindel v Billy Bragg

155 replies

sashh · 15/03/2023 02:35

Billy Bragg has tweeted.

Julie Bindel takes to right wing GBNews to smear the trans community with the same trope that was used against gay men in the 1980s - that they are all paedophiles. Has she forgotten that made gays a target for physical violence? Does she care if trans people are now targeted too.

Julie has given him 24 hours to appologise or she will take legal action.

This is the interview

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ArabellaScott · 15/03/2023 15:10

Guilt by association quickly becomes a purity spiral.

Apollo441 · 15/03/2023 15:13

Andrew Doyle is not right wing. Fuck off with your guilt by association. Left wing media has it head up its arse and just won't platform anyone gender critical, effectively cancelling them, so you have no right to complain about who provides a platform.

LilacLooRoll · 15/03/2023 15:16

God, Bragg has become insufferable.

Take him to court and do him, Julie! 👊

Thelnebriati · 15/03/2023 15:29

Fundraising idea; Julie Bindel on a t-shirt with the legend 'I would challenge you to a battle of wits but I see you are unarmed'.

PorcelinaV · 15/03/2023 15:32

From the Owen Jones school of predictable, obnoxious virtue signalling.

JoonT · 15/03/2023 15:54

GB News isn’t right-wing for god’s sake. Most of it is pretty run of the mill. The BBC has far more of a left-wing bias than GB News has a right-wing one.

Everything is described as right-wing nowadays. Don’t want open borders? You’re right-wing. Don’t believe every young men landing on our shores is a genuine refugee? You’re right-wing. Think maybe kids are generally better off being raised by their biological parents? You right-wing.

DemiColon · 15/03/2023 16:01

BridasShieldWall · 15/03/2023 08:23

This sums it up for me. Shovel at the ready.

As an aside reading through the Twitter thread there are a number of people calling Julie a ‘political lesbian’ or ‘identifies’ as a lesbian is shocking especially as she details the abus she has had growing up and coming out. It does show the lack of arguments they have though in that they have to lie to try to undermine her.

I'm pretty sure JB calls herself a political lesbian, and suggests other women would be better off f they'd be political lesbians too.

Helleofabore · 15/03/2023 16:09

This 'right wing media' narrative is just fuckwittery. We all know it.

It is just lazy people who discount anything from one media source based on some of the other content. The number of threads I have been on in AIBU where somebody keen on fuckwittery writes 'it is the daily mail'.

One regular from this board was on a thread saying that on AIBU and never did return to answer whether they felt that Julie Bindel miraculously changed political allegiance or was now a click bait journo.

It is like people scoffing about 'Murdoch'. Well, Rupert Murdoch's older portfolio of media includes a newspaper directly targeting trade union readers.

Blanket statements about media allegiances where that source is not specifically aimed at one political allegiance is just lazy and those making the arguments lack critical thinking. And even the most biased source may still content something that makes you think deeper to evaluate it, or the very least go and search out the original source to sort fact over fiction.

EsmaCannonball · 15/03/2023 16:32

Billy Bragg would never have had a career if he'd been a woman, because women aren't allowed to get away with not being able to sing.

Not surprised the tedious tosser doesn't believe in freedom of association for lesbians, or that women should be allowed to meet or communicate without male monitoring. Seeing as how he's full on 'Sex work is work!' and 'Up the (sex) workers!' I wonder how he'd feel if a bloke going into a lap-dancing club or brothel wasn't absolutely guaranteed that the women he'd ordered wasn't called Brian last Thursday and doesn't come with a massive beard and cock? I bet he'd say you could be choosy about the company you keep then.

ClaphamSouth · 15/03/2023 16:33

This seems rather on the nose Grin

https://twitter.com/damekatydenise/status/1636011869566562304?s=20

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Cailleach1 · 15/03/2023 16:38

MrsOvertonsWindow · 15/03/2023 08:50

It is incredible that a fading male singer so openly displays his distaste for lesbians. This group has been started by Kathleen Stock, Martina Navratilova & Julie yet he openly targets and criticises them for setting up an organisation to ensure that lesbians are heard, visible and included in research.
He seems to have lost his off switch when it comes to displaying his dislike of women.

I wonder if Bragg's most venomous invective is directed towards same-sex attracted women? Mind you, simply being a woman appears (to me) to be enough to render one a target to this retrogressive braggart. Especially women who don't go along with the 'Mr. Men's rights is to be given primacy' cohort.

It seems to be quite the coup of this new age charlatanism - pretending sexism ( and prejudice against lesbians) is 'progressive'.

BlueHeelers · 15/03/2023 16:46

All Ms Bindel said is that she did NOT want to be grouped with paedophiles ('minor attracted persons') under the same 'rainbow umbrella' that Stonewall thinks lesbians should join - at risk of being 'sexual racists' according to the head of Stonewall.

Bragg has weak comprehension skills.

Righthandcider · 15/03/2023 16:49

ClaphamSouth · 15/03/2023 16:33

Very good. I've never seen that Twitter account before but it's really made me chuckle.

Scout2016 · 15/03/2023 16:51

@EsmaCannonball without wishing to derail, I can't believe that hadn't occurred to me before but you are so right about women and singing. And men and not singing.

NotHavingIt · 15/03/2023 16:52

A worthwhile article from 'Tablet' magazine ( an excellent U.S based Jewish magazine) on how the LGB got swallowed up by Queer:

www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/great-transitioning

BridasShieldWall · 15/03/2023 16:59

DemiColon I didn’t know that. It was this type of comment that denies she is a lesbian. Unless they are being deeply sarcastic - it can be hard to see what is real and what is a piss take at times.

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Datun · 15/03/2023 17:09

Julie Bindel is a definite, biological, based on sex, lesbian.

Pretty certain she also thinks that's a political stance. And I'm sure could back that up until the cows come home.

But she's not pretending to be attracted to women for the sake of her politics.

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 15/03/2023 17:10

Billy, tell us, why did you automatically assume Julie was limping trans people abs paedophiles together? Care to explain? Because right now, it’s saying far more about you than it is about her…

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 15/03/2023 17:10

*and

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 15/03/2023 17:11

*lumping - good Lord I’m on fire today 🙄

Womanofcustard · 15/03/2023 17:11

He’s a singer and he can’t even sing!
I’ve still not fully recovered from hearing his rendition of ‘She’s Leaving Home’ many years ago on a Beatles tribute radio programme.

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 15/03/2023 17:13

He identifies as a singer womanofcustard so it’s honestly fine. I’m planning to identify as a supermodel later.

RoyalCorgi · 15/03/2023 17:13

Julie Bindel has been in a relationship with her partner, Harriet Wistrich, for years. How dare anyone suggest she's not a real lesbian? FFS, these people really are the pits.

Charley50 · 15/03/2023 17:30

RoyalCorgi · 15/03/2023 17:13

Julie Bindel has been in a relationship with her partner, Harriet Wistrich, for years. How dare anyone suggest she's not a real lesbian? FFS, these people really are the pits.

I didn't know her partner was Harriet Wistrich. Two such amazing women.

iamlookingfor · 15/03/2023 17:41

twitter.com/DreyfusJames/status/1635970570851430401?t=A_KMwwOs8YD01-qULsbMiQ&s=19
Is this tweet by OJ real or a parody? I can't make it out?

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