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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

TikToker who exposed Jeffrey Marsh hounded bullied

316 replies

DerekFaker · 13/03/2023 07:13

Meet the new progressiveism. A muslim woman being hounded and bullied for criticising a white man.

This is disgusting. I hope she and her family are going to be ok.

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Helleofabore · 13/03/2023 16:21

Seasonofthewitch83 · 13/03/2023 16:07

Then why were her videos filled with transphobia, if it was JUST about JM?

Words matter.

No one denies that there are some people who are transphobic. However, you have also not given examples of what is transphobic.

These days, that word can mean anything including a wide range of content that is not transphobic but is exaggerated in hyperbolic accusations intended to silence the people who are still worried about being accused of being transphobic. It is emotionally manipulative.

That accusation has significantly lost its emotive power over the past three months since the discussions about male rapists being put into female prisons.

IcakethereforeIam · 13/03/2023 16:22

Seasonofthewitch83 · 13/03/2023 16:09

Apologies - the COMMENTS on her video were full of transphobia, not about JM.

Take it up with the people who made the comments.

Artisticpaint · 13/03/2023 16:23

I wish Gary Linekar and Billy Bragg would defend this lady

IcakethereforeIam · 13/03/2023 16:24

Seasonofthewitch83 · 13/03/2023 16:13

Your reading comprehension is...interesting.

Yours is incomprehensible.

soddingspiderseason · 13/03/2023 16:24

Tricyrtis2022 · 13/03/2023 16:18

Could we get back to the subject of the thread, which is that a woman and her family are being subject to violent threats? The pages of sealioning are getting dull.

Absolutely agree. TRAs are well versed at defending the indefensible, and derailing any thread about women daring to challenge their narrative.

IcakethereforeIam · 13/03/2023 16:26

Aside from advising her to delete her videos, are the Police doing anything else?

RichardBarrister · 13/03/2023 16:32

And so Shumirun is still responsible for the people who are responding to her public video.

yeah. we know.

I find it interesting that women are held responsible for everything while young Jeffrey claims to represent trans people while displaying behaviour that is accurately characterised as grooming. So it is he that is making a link, not us. We know that not all trans people are predators and have always clearly maintained that.

Moving on, I really hope that the police response has been satisfactory for a change, esp in light of Suellas statement.

I think this will serve to raise awareness of these issues in the Muslim community as well as some are horrified at how she’s been treated.

beastlyslumber · 13/03/2023 16:32

Seasonofthewitch83 · 13/03/2023 15:25

Still waiting for any evidence that isn't spliced clips from a right winger YouTube account....

Evidence of what?

sanluca · 13/03/2023 16:32

Its fine to call out potentially creepy behaviour from anyone.
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It is important to be aware that when you do so, you are aware that if this person belongs to a marginalised group that are often accused of being predator etc, that you make the distinction clear.*

Be careful not just about what you say, even if you are right in saying it, but also how you say it. Where have we heard that before? Oh yes, Maya's courtcase.

All designed to ensure a group of people are so terrified of saying anything negative about another group of people, that the first group says nothing anymore. Unlike the second group of people that can say anything absolutely awful about the first group, who are now also too terrified to defend themselves...

nilsmousehammer · 13/03/2023 16:35

The pattern is quite striking really. The responsibility is always on anyone but the people from the group.

This is in effect blaming a person for daring to protest when their foot was stamped on, and causing the stamper to hit everyone in the vicinity in the ensuing tantrum.

It is not the responsibility of every non TQ+ political person on the planet to endure silently for fear of accidentally triggering appalling behaviour in a TQ+ political person. They're going to need to take responsibility for themselves.

slug · 13/03/2023 16:39

Anyone else playing Rules of Misogyny bingo?

Boiledbeetle · 13/03/2023 16:42

m.youtube.com/watch?v=cdb7YPPcMPI

Jeffery Marsh's CREEPY Patreon Gets EXPOSED By Based TikTok Comedian

From about 3.45 is her tik tok with all the hi kids bits in.

FOJN · 13/03/2023 16:54

There is a support hashtag for Shumirun with plenty of blue ticks tweeting it.

twitter.com/hashtag/istandwithshumirunnessa?src=hashtag_click

RichardBarrister · 13/03/2023 17:00

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RichardBarrister · 13/03/2023 17:02

I only posted that the Change petition against her has been taken down but it might have looked like a link so was hidden.

One tiny positive in this grim circus.

DerekFaker · 13/03/2023 17:13

Marsh's YouTube channel is curious. It goes from videos 2 years ago to videos 10 months ago. Most recent one is 1 month ago.

I suppose concentrating on Tik Tok videos might explain it.

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Tabbycatsnooze · 13/03/2023 17:14

The resident TRA has done a good job to derail this thread.

In the meantime, what can we do to show support for this woman? Without downloading tiktok.

I notice that when a rich man is criticized for expressing concerns, his rich male friends rally round. But it would appear that women can't expect the same. Indeed, women might be threatened with violence and told to buy in private security.

IcakethereforeIam · 13/03/2023 17:23

There's been at least two Islamic twitter accounts tweeting about this, including the 5Pillars one that got the anti-LGBT petition rocket fueled a few weeks ago.

I hope no one tries anything to hurt this lady or her family any further. No least because of the further damage the TQ+ might cause between the LGB and the Islamic communities.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 13/03/2023 18:01

Shumirun did not instigate the concerns about JM, people have been tweeting about him for months. JM now appears to have hidden, deleted or restricted access to material that was more easily available previously. However, many of us have independently seen what JM chose to post and recognise and support her concerns.
Even if that was not the case, it would never be appropriate to threaten a person and their children because you objected to their social media content. If people felt that strongly they could have reported her to the relevant platform or even the police.

This was not intended as an exercise is setting the record straight/putting the other side of the argument. Threats against a women and her children are intimidation and I hope the people behind these threats are found and prosecuted.

Tricyrtis2022 · 13/03/2023 18:32

The Muslim community are not happy: twitter.com/xxclusionary/status/1635340087222476800

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Seasonofthewitch83 · 13/03/2023 18:56

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I think I am going to report your post, is what I think. How disgusting.

I am not engaging further to not derail this thread.

AlisonDonut · 13/03/2023 18:58

Seasonofthewitch83 · 13/03/2023 18:56

I think I am going to report your post, is what I think. How disgusting.

I am not engaging further to not derail this thread.

Or you could explain why you are defending him?

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2023 19:01

twitter.com/shumirunnessa/status/1635345051055431683

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 13/03/2023 19:02

WRT children not being able to go no-contact with their parents - of course they can!

Every year in the UK 100,000 children (not a typo) run away from home or go missing.

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