Am I Reading This Right?... Rosie Duffield Throwing KJK Under The Bus?!

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From what i can tell, Rosie has quote tweeted a lloyd russell tweet, that is having a go at Kellie J.
Rosie it seems, has thrown Kellie under the bus by claiming, ' look i'm not like that other woman, so listen to me '! That's how i'm reading it anyway.
If so, that's the last time i hop in when it's rosie getting all the flak, she can do one!
I notice Bindle is there too!

Do you have a link so I can know what you're referring to please?

Many apologies @WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe have added one now, which will hopefully take you to rosies tweet.

mobile.twitter.com/RosieDuffield1/status/1633846553533362179

Read her other tweets in the thread.

It looks like she further qualifies the point that Kellie Jay is entitled to her view and clarifying that gender critical women have a variety of other opinions on different matters. I'm not sure it is tantamount to throwing her under the bus.

It might have been more accurate to point out that Lloyd gobshite has misrepresented KJK's view that parents should be included in decision to put girls on the pill as being against women's reproductive rights more generally. But that kind of clarifying is usually misread in bad faith by those scanning for ammunition.

It’s perfectly understandable for women to object to any intimation they think 12 year olds should not be allowed abortions.

whether that’s exactly what kjk meant I am not qualified to say, but understand people standing up against. LR is paving the way to get mass dismissal of Rosie’s arguments through linking them here, she is within her grounds to highlight that’s not the case.

The whole thread is definitely worth reading. RD definitely not throwing KJK under the bus:

"KJK is entitled to believe/campaign however she wants and she deserves credit for her achievements. But we're not all the same and was commenting on LRM's lazy gotcha claiming we all have identical views..."

btw, I love RD insulting LRMs views.
Just an incredibly stupid and tedious generalisation from a man trying to justify his anger at us pesky women. It's really lazy and very boring!

I watched how LRM bullied and intimidated Miriam Cates during that debate in the House of Commons. His behaviour is disgraceful, and I absolutely believe that he is driven by a deep contempt for women.

I don't see why everyone should be in agreement with everything KJK says. I support her views on a few GC issues but do not support her on many others. I don't see it as part of being GC that I should blindly follow, that way idol worship lies and I'm not a big fan.

I don't get this almost purity spiral around kjk. It's almost as if anything short of worship is treated as abuse and bullying.
She has done amazing things but she is not a feminist (in the way many other gc women are). Why are people bullied for drawing a line between them and her?

That was a really important Tweet from Rosie Duffield.

Lots of TRAs try and accuse all GC women of being far right, anti-abortion Christian fundamentalists.

Unfortunately what KJK said could be used against GC women to support that narrative. Yes I know young girls getting abortions is a different issue but TRAs clutch at straws.

I think it's important for politicians to make it clear when they are both GC AND left wing, pro-choice not not in any way religious fundamentalists.

Agree. We regularly point out on these boards that we are not a homogeneous lump with pre-set views, Rosie is simply doing the same there. She isn't throwing KJK under a bus.

And I really wish LRM would get off Twitter and out of the HoC. He is a vile bully.

I admire KJK’s GC views and her ability to express them. However let us not forget we are not bound to like everything she says, behaves.
I will not agree with everything she says as some sort of purity test, it almost feels ideological if that is the expectation. I spend my time leaning into the nuances to keep myself away from polarisation - this is one of those times.

I dont think Duffield's tweet is as strong as suggested.

Its always good to remind people how little LRM understands and wants to support safeguarding for children.

I think RD shouldn’t have weighed in their unless she mentioned that KJK was talking about how gillick/Fraser competence should not be an excuse for not safeguarding children and involving parents.

I think it's really important to weigh in when you are a GC woman with a high profile and another GC woman with a high profile says something you fundamentally disagree with.

I wouldn't have retweeted that odious little man to make a point about a video clip which clearly does not tell the whole story. The whole country saw LRM's disgusting, aggressive overreaction to MC's perfectly reasonable speech in the HoC, it's not as if he's perceived as a reasonable man so I think he is best ignored.

I'm just posting a link to SFW twitter where 12 hours ago KJK commented on this issue.

twitter.com/StandingforXX

KJK is heavily influenced by Sheila Jefferys who has some thought provoking things to say about the concept of consent.

Ffs
Women don't have to be a hive mind.

Rosie was responding to the myognists point that gender critical women are generally not anti abortion.

I think disagreeing with someone on one point is scarcely “throwing them under the bus”.
Ive been to a couple of Standing for Women events & I’m glad KJK makes them happen. Women talk there who I disagree with on some things & agree with on other things.
The fundamental thing we agree on is that women exist and need to be able to talk.

I support RD objecting to the video; I think it's the right move. I know KJK is not a feminist, but if she says something so blatantly anti-feminist, we have to push back.

I think protecting underage girls from statutory rape and sexual exploitation is a feminist issue.

Who does it serve to give a twelve year old girl contraception without informing the parents or social services?

Oh yeah - it serves the blokes who want to fuck underage girls without detection or consequence. I can understand why LRM would be on their side, but feminists? Hmmm…

Nuance went out the window so far back that we can't even see it.
I agree 12 years old on the pill should have their parents support. I also live in the real world and know there will be problems with that - both ways - on or off the pill, with or without parents in the know.
Apparently Labour (turned the blind eye at Rotherhams) is the best protector of women's and girl's rights?
On KJK I think she does great work but disagree with some things she says. Same goes for Rosie.

Well no, it serves the young girl who doesn't want to get pregnant.

But the bloke sticking his cock up a child regularly gets no benefit?

This.

I’m not sure how you read that and got throwing KJK under the bus.

The most notable thing was the refusal to concede the feminist ground to LRM and his TRA agenda.

I don’t understand the idea that we must agree with and defend everything someone says because they’re on ‘our side’ that seems to be increasingly prevalent these days. Why wouldn’t there be a range of views within GC feminism? Why would anyone expect to agree with KJK?

I mean, I don’t even necessarily agree with everything I’ve ever said or done. Opinions and views are not unchanging monoliths. They shouldn’t be.