Caba Baba Rave - take your baby to watch nearly naked men in fetish gear

[Clymene]

Journalist Dominique Samuels has posted video of one of their events: https://twitter.com/dominiquetaegon/status/1630948003962912768?s=61&t=gd6tu0Iz6JpyKXGLWMLGjg

Which features men gyrating and hanging from the ceiling surrounded by a crowd of clueless women and their babies.

I would say it's NSFW but it's apparently safe for babies so have a watch.

Here's a reddux article:

https://reduxx.info/uk-sold-out-rave-for-babies-featuring-drag-queens-prompts-outrage/

Since the video went viral, the company has taken down its website and Facebook and made their Instagram private. I wonder why?

Holy moley, that little girl is even copying the moves.

What do you call it when PSHE on the Isle of Man has to be shut down for the entire island, because adults are teaching children how to masturbate and have anal sex?

Or when teachers are so concerned about what they are saying they are ordering the children to disregard what they are saying, as they are actually saying it!

Or when parents are not allowed to view the sex education materials that the children are going to be taught.

Or when teachers are to play a game with children which involves describing how you would sexually insert a number of objects into a number of orifices. And then normalise 12 year old girls watching porn.

It's not a 'theory'. Unless you mean queer theory. Second generation adults absolutely soaked in queer theory, and using children to demonstrate it.

And those children are way over one.

Have you seen the screen grab of the child who is clearly over one, more like three or four, being lifted up by a man in a G string with a nipple tassels??

That’s a woman with nipple tassels the ‘burlesque’ bit, I imagine.

Well, I must say I thought so, but then I thought since it's drag, it's got to be a bloke.

Male or female, it's sexual nudity aimed at children.

Just to put this into context re: other ticketed entertainment:

Magic Mike stage show, strictly over 18s.

Brixton Academy, no under 8s ever, 8-13 on the balcony only and most shows 14 plus or 18 plus.

No under 5s at Wembley Stadium concerts, 5-14 year olds must have seated tickets and cannot be in the standing area.

No under 3s at The Lion King! Recommended for 6 and up.

I am too (well, cabaret, not so much drag, but if adults want to go and see it I'm not judging).
Something being an artform (and yes, cabaret and drag are, I agree) doesn't mean it's suitable for kids.
Do you have any further/different arguments to backup your opinion? I'd be interested in hearing them.

Mail article.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11810305/Fury-Drag-act-BABIES-Semi-naked-man-thigh-high-boots-performs-bondage-routine.html

The adults didn't look entertained, they looked as bored as they would be if watching an actual children's entertainer, with polite smiles on their faces. I don't for a second think that this event was aimed at parents who could bring their children along, it was aimed at children. The parents in that room clearly thought it was meant to be an event for the children.

When people think of drag they think of a bloke in an elaborate costume, telling a few jokes and maybe singing the odd song. This was basically soft-core stripping and (supposedly) erotic dancing. None of the parents there would have taken their children to see adult performers if this hadn't been billed as a drag event. The word 'drag' seems to hypnotise adults into acquiescing to anything.

The big question is what do the adult performers get out of this? Why aren't they uncomfortable stripping and gyrating in front of toddlers? Are they DBS checked? Shouldn't there be some kind of system to vet anything billed as children's entertainment or children's events to ensure the content and performers are age-appropriate?

I've read that the goal of having drag queens perform for children is to make the next generation accepting of the LGBTQ+. people.

So the idea is to assume that drag queens are in some important sense representative of all the people in the LGBTQ+? Perhaps, that this IS what it means to be LGBTQ+?

As drag is something some gay men do it's hard for me to see the validity of this approach. Much of drag is also fairly openly sexist, ridiculing the female sex, calling women 'fish' etc. So the acceptance here seems to be tied with a permission to ridicule women and girls? Why would this be good value to teach young children?

All this may be less important than the fear that bringing these performances to young children will silence their inner alarm systems about inappropriate adult behaviour. That is a more frightening possibility.

Still, this is yet another example of the current social justice movements erasing women's rights almost completely. "Womanhood" is seen as a resource from which everyone can ladle out goods, and old-fashioned women are seen as entitled dinosaurs trying to hoard their ownership rights to it. So enemies.

The screen shot version for posterity.

Inclusion.
2023.

Yes, the parents don't seem to care about the messaging to little girls. 'Sometimes a man is a woman, and sometimes a woman is a man, but all the time the person getting their tits out and doing the splits is a woman.' Progress.

I agree. But there’s something particularly twisted about subjecting babies and toddlers, who are at around breastfeeding age, to a woman stripping down to her knickers and nipple tassels, and presumably swinging her breasts around to make the tassels spin (that’s the point of them, isn’t it?). How fucked up and confusing.

My fella took our to see four grown men strutting round in makeup, spandex and stack heels. Not quite the same though

I suspect that at some point this drag for kids thing was a way to include LGBT+ stuff into programming targets.

Lots of organizations, including libraries, are given themes or targets they are supposed to use for programming, and very often now they are all about identity groups. And they are meant to include these things in adult and children's programming.

Very often these targets are met by doing some kind of culture related activity - like having an African drumming group performance for kids. I would bet good money that at some point some numpty thought, what would be a gay cultural show? Drag, obviously!

@Seasonofthewitch83

But this act would not be booked for children over 1. The screengrabs are for the events aimed at parents with babies, FOR the parents.

Not true. They have an event for under 2s and one for up to 5. I'm not going to screenshot because I want to protect the privacy of the children but there are clearly some children there who are much older than one. They're not newborns and babes in arms, they're toddlers.

If you look at their other content, the shows for older children are different - no nudity etc as that is not appropriate.

And I ask you again, why is content deemed suitable for babies and toddlers not suitable for older children? The law sets age limits based on ages over. So suitable for over 5s. Not under 2s unless it's really boring for older children. Why are men in thongs and rubber suitable for toddlers and not for older children? Can you really not see how dodgy that is?

The images are fake. Performance shots spliced with audience shots.

They're not even particularly convincing fakes.

Once you've accepted they're fake, ask yourself why they've been made and distributed. And why you were so willing to believe they are real

Which images are fake please?

If you can't tell that the audience is from a different photo to the performer, I don't know what to tell you.

Once we've accepted they're fake? No-one's going to accept they're fake because you say so.

Is this fake?

So the videos are fake too?

Because that’s where the stills come from.

Why don't you know what to tell us? Explain why it's fake?

If the images are fake then why didn't the company say so in their statement?

Don't let this derail the thread.