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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Experiences of a Trans Person

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invalide · 27/02/2023 16:11

I think it might be healthy to document here the experiences of someone from the other side, and for you to pay it some mind.

I'm an early-twenties STEM student working in renewable energies, and outside of my course I'm a photographer and musician. I've travelled a fair amount and adore my home country of Scotland. Living in Glasgow, I have found a queer community of beautiful people who create a joy to everyday life I treasure.

At the beginning of this month there was a 'Let Women Speak' rally held here that some of you here attended; I have seldom felt more unwelcome and stripped of dignity than while in your crowd, carrying out my photojournalistic duties (images 1&2). While capturing Kellie-Jay Keen pathologising my friends as subhuman perverts and members of the crowd flaunting their homophobia and their use of dogwhistles (subliminal far-right messaging) I was being brazenly looked up and down, receiving steely gazes and pursed lips and hushed whispers behind my back. While photographing the first speaker after Keen, who began her piece portraying autistic people as children devoid of agency, I was approached by one of you who made it clear I looked too queer for their liking and was squaring up for assault. I made my way out at this point (captured at 8:42 here and 9:09 here).
The atmosphere your movement brought to George Square was one I've only before experienced while documenting far-right rallies in Eastern Europe, where I have been hounded through the streets and beaten up for the same reason. I assure you, your ideology would feel very much at home there.

At the other side of the square things couldn't have been more different, you were bathed in colour and music and hugs and laughter, the place is full of friends dancing and dressed resplendent in whatever camp pretty things they felt like (images 2&3).

Ours was a crowd of locals; I strained to hear a Glasgow accent in yours.

Ours is a city that at short notice manages to fill the top of Buchanan Street (image 5) in solidarity with the queer community - the last time I saw it like this was during COP26. It's one that fills George Square in a candlelit vigil for Brianna Ghey.

Your movement has meant I'm called a pervert and a groomer while going about my average daily life. Our morally vacuous, increasingly fascist political class (thinking also of Magnus Hirschfeld and of Martin Niemöller's famous poem) is picking up what you've started and they're running with it. You may not call yourself a homophobe, a white nationalist or an antisemite, but you're sitting awfully comfortably considering that those that do find your movement incredibly attractive.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/02/2023 23:38

It's Wednesday tomorrow, do you have your pink clothes ready

You're pretty rude, really, for someone acting so holier than thou. Almost like you're just here to sneer at other women, without contributing anything particularly worthy of note.

myveryownelectrickitten · 28/02/2023 23:40

CremeEggQueen · 28/02/2023 23:35

She’s clearly a satire on Nicola Sturgeon, which is obvious
If you're in on the in joke like explained upthread.
It's Wednesday tomorrow, do you have your pink clothes ready

No-one’s let me “in on the joke”, I just recognise the satire 😂 you know, from paying attention to the news and suchlike.

CremeEggQueen · 28/02/2023 23:40

So it's only allowed to go one way? 👍

CremeEggQueen · 28/02/2023 23:40

That was to Erish post

myveryownelectrickitten · 28/02/2023 23:41

Well, satire by definition only goes one way. 😂 That’s kind of the point. Perhaps we ought to be exhuming and banning Jonathan Swift or the entire cast of The Thick Of It next…?

SinnerBoy · 28/02/2023 23:42

*CremeEggQueen" · Today 23:35

If you're in on the in joke like explained upthread.

It's easy to be in on the joke, simply read and assimilate the posts on the thread and hey presto! elucidation will result.

Skim read the posts and post patronising lectures, on the other hand and obliviousness will remain.

You could try reading the paper, or watching the news and you'd have an excellent idea of who Nicola is. She's been quite the hot topic, recently.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 28/02/2023 23:43

Wearing Pink on Wednesdays sounds a bit too Jame Gumb for my tastes.

Experiences of a Trans Person
CremeEggQueen · 28/02/2023 23:43

myveryownelectrickitten · 28/02/2023 23:40

No-one’s let me “in on the joke”, I just recognise the satire 😂 you know, from paying attention to the news and suchlike.

Yes, someone shouting every single post on a thread means it must obviously be a Nicola satire 🙄

Boiledbeetle · 28/02/2023 23:44

WomensLandArmy · 28/02/2023 23:36

Thank you @Boiledbeetle Please remember that all TWIT members must have the unique ability to see the underside of their very own tonsils, as they are so far up their own behinds.
Who's taking the minutes tonight?

Well it was supposed to be Janice, but she's outside playing tonsil hockey with Helen!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/02/2023 23:44

It is only going one way. OP came here with his misogyny and his bad faith attacks on women, people who aren't overly familiar with the concept of centring women and girls came to support him with it, ignoring and handwaving away the abuse and threats he made, and the regular female FWR posters are responding to that.

CremeEggQueen · 28/02/2023 23:45

You could try reading the paper, or watching the news and you'd have an excellent idea of who Nicola is. She's been quite the hot topic, recently.
I know perfectly well who Nicola Sturgeon is.
A poster randomly shouting every single post doesn't automatically say Nicola though 😂

Boiledbeetle · 28/02/2023 23:46

CremeEggQueen · 28/02/2023 23:33

Nicola?! 😕😂
This board is seriously batshit at times, actual laugh out loud so at times 😬
It's feminist doing the shouting not me, didn't know they were called Nicola, you obviously know them better than me

Nicola Sturgeon was quoted as saying she was a real feminist. Nicola Sturgeon is very shouty.

Real feminist is...well It might be the actual Nicola Sturgeon! No-one knows for sure!

CremeEggQueen · 28/02/2023 23:47

myveryownelectrickitten · 28/02/2023 23:41

Well, satire by definition only goes one way. 😂 That’s kind of the point. Perhaps we ought to be exhuming and banning Jonathan Swift or the entire cast of The Thick Of It next…?

You seem to have misunderstood, my post was referring to the "you're pretty rude actually" bit

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/02/2023 23:48

You missed a bit of Sinner's post, Cremeegg

It's easy to be in on the joke, simply read and assimilate the posts on the thread and hey presto! elucidation will result.

Skim read the posts and post patronising lectures, on the other hand and obliviousness will remain.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 28/02/2023 23:49

What was it Magdalen Burns said again? Something along the lines of ‘I’d rather be rude than a fucking liar’?

That.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/02/2023 23:50

You seem to have misunderstood, my post was referring to the "you're pretty rude actually" bit

Pretty sure you were rude to women here before anyone was rude to you.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/02/2023 23:50

What was it Magdalen Burns said again? Something along the lines of ‘I’d rather be rude than a fucking liar’?

That.

+1

Boiledbeetle · 28/02/2023 23:51

Sod this. I'm off into the bar to play pool.

TinselAngel · 28/02/2023 23:52

Nicola Sturgeon was quoted as saying she was a real feminist. Nicola Sturgeon is very shouty.
STURGEON IS A MUMSNETTER?! SEEMS UNLIKELY BUT MAYBE SHE'S PEAKED!

Boiledbeetle · 28/02/2023 23:52

TinselAngel · 28/02/2023 23:52

Nicola Sturgeon was quoted as saying she was a real feminist. Nicola Sturgeon is very shouty.
STURGEON IS A MUMSNETTER?! SEEMS UNLIKELY BUT MAYBE SHE'S PEAKED!

We all get there eventually x

CremeEggQueen · 28/02/2023 23:54

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 28/02/2023 23:49

What was it Magdalen Burns said again? Something along the lines of ‘I’d rather be rude than a fucking liar’?

That.

Yes, so you'd think regular posters wouldn't be commenting sounding all hurt "you're pretty rude actually" - as you say, that's what you want people to be, right? Rude?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/02/2023 23:55

I'm not hurt, just stating a fact Smile

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/02/2023 23:56

I'm perfectly capable of reading posts from the usual people who post on FWR in not entirely the best of faith, of both sexes.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/02/2023 23:57

It's not like it's an uncommon occurrence for people to come and scold women here.

Boiledbeetle · 01/03/2023 00:00

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/02/2023 23:57

It's not like it's an uncommon occurrence for people to come and scold women here.

I find it comforting.

It means we're womaning right!

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