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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Kate Forbes reported for 'transphobia'

291 replies

ArabellaScott · 21/02/2023 16:01

www.heraldscotland.com/politics/23336504.kate-forbes-may-breached-snp-rules-transphobia/

'KATE Forbes looks set to be probed by the SNP's conduct committee after members of the party's LGBTQ+ wing accused her of breaking rules on transphobia.

In an interview with ITV Border, when asked if she believed a trans woman is a woman, the Finance Secretary replied: "I believe that a trans woman is a biological male who identifies as a woman."'

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Happylittlechicken · 23/02/2023 13:00

BluebellBlueballs · 22/02/2023 20:14

That sounds like a zen koan but it makes the best point. Of course we know the difference between men and women as only men seem to be able to identify as TW.

I'd like to 'outwoke the woke' by as a bio woman, identify as a TW just for the headscratch factor.

quite a few people are starting to do this and call themselves trans transwomen. It quite upsets the gender ideologists as they either have to admit transwomen are male and only males can be transwomen or accept self id is valid and allow it. They can’t say the women are not transwomen, as then that sparked the debate of “why not?”. It’s even funnier now some TW are referring to themselves as females as it makes it harder to argue against females being transwomen. Blows their tiny minds 😀

HootyMcboob76 · 23/02/2023 16:42

Ok.
So if stating a provable unquestionable biological fact is a transphobic hate crime, then why are all the biology and anatomy and physiology and genetics books not being taken off shelves all over the word and being burned?
Why are persisting in teaching established medical science to med students?
Why isn't Prof. Robert Winston being arrested for perpetuating the myth that sex is immutable, unchangeable and fixed?

If this is an actual CRIME, stating established reality, than EVERYTHING that does so is illegal.

This is so much fucking bollocks.

Men
Are
Not
Women

To be "trans" means that you are NOT that thing. Otherwise you would just BE that thing.

Trans women are biologically male, in every cell of their body. That is not hate, that is a fact.
Arrest me you fucking lunatics.
I'll share my cell with Prof. Winston.

Signalbox · 23/02/2023 20:32

then why are all the biology and anatomy and physiology and genetics books not being taken off shelves all over the word and being burned?

Give it time.

BluebellBlueballs · 23/02/2023 20:56

Signalbox · 23/02/2023 20:32

then why are all the biology and anatomy and physiology and genetics books not being taken off shelves all over the word and being burned?

Give it time.

Yes, that'll be next

Wasn't there already a really confusing children's 'educational ' book with 5 genders to replace the 2 sexes in circulation?

BluebellBlueballs · 23/02/2023 20:59

Happylittlechicken · 23/02/2023 13:00

quite a few people are starting to do this and call themselves trans transwomen. It quite upsets the gender ideologists as they either have to admit transwomen are male and only males can be transwomen or accept self id is valid and allow it. They can’t say the women are not transwomen, as then that sparked the debate of “why not?”. It’s even funnier now some TW are referring to themselves as females as it makes it harder to argue against females being transwomen. Blows their tiny minds 😀

I call this 'outwoking the woke' and think sometimes it's the only way to get any traction.

No one listens to plain old fashioned women anymore.

If we all identify as 'trans trans women' could we make a stir?

SirChenjins · 23/02/2023 21:09

Do we feel womanly enough to call ourselves trans trans women though? Remember it’s all about the feelz…

BluebellBlueballs · 23/02/2023 21:12

SirChenjins · 23/02/2023 21:09

Do we feel womanly enough to call ourselves trans trans women though? Remember it’s all about the feelz…

I'd argue you need to feel manly just enough to start to feel like a TW with an extra dose of heels, push up bra and miniskirt to make you a TTW.

SinnerBoy · 23/02/2023 22:44

Arrest me you fucking lunatics.
I'll share my cell with Prof. Winston.

Well, if he says he's Roberta...

Sugarfree23 · 23/02/2023 23:28

Katie's Church have backed her and called her treatment bigoted. I'm glad they at least are behind her.

Happylittlechicken · 24/02/2023 04:25

I’ll make us TTW super spinny skirts. I’m really starting to feel TTW is my true identity

Righthandcider · 24/02/2023 07:33

No one listens to plain old fashioned women anymore.

Not sure they ever really did.

Christmasisshit · 24/02/2023 07:57

To be an authentic TTW would we need to wear visible packers whilst wearing our over the top female outfits, swishy hair, lipstick and tilting heads like mad?

WickedSerious · 24/02/2023 08:06

Christmasisshit · 24/02/2023 07:57

To be an authentic TTW would we need to wear visible packers whilst wearing our over the top female outfits, swishy hair, lipstick and tilting heads like mad?

I have no idea how to apply lipstick but I'll give the rest of it a go.

Christmasisshit · 24/02/2023 08:13

WickedSerious · 24/02/2023 08:06

I have no idea how to apply lipstick but I'll give the rest of it a go.

Badly applied lipstick is perfect.

WickedSerious · 24/02/2023 08:18

Fire engine red,ear to ear.

Happylittlechicken · 24/02/2023 08:40

I’m practicing swishing and tilting as we speak! 😂😂😂😂😂

GailBlancheViola · 24/02/2023 09:16

Happylittlechicken · 24/02/2023 08:40

I’m practicing swishing and tilting as we speak! 😂😂😂😂😂

Be careful out there @Happylittlechicken you could do yourself an injury😆

SinnerBoy · 24/02/2023 09:37

Christmasisshit · Today 08:13

Badly applied lipstick is perfect.

You will need:

  1. A few drinks
  2. Boxing gloves
  3. A rocking chair
  4. The lights off
NotHavingIt · 24/02/2023 10:26

Kathleen Stock writes about the opersecution of Kate Forbes in Unherd:

unherd.com/2023/02/the-crucifixion-of-kate-forbes/

NotHavingIt · 24/02/2023 10:28

"As I say, what we have here is a clash of two religions. One of them is full of sanctimonious, swivel-eyed moral scolds, rooting out heresy and trying to indoctrinate everybody into their fantastic way of thinking. The other is a branch of Calvinism. One of them asks “what would Jesus do?” and the other “what would Owen Jones think?”. Faced with a choice between their representatives on earth, I know which kind I would prefer to see in high office"

PaterPower · 24/02/2023 11:05

I’d rather have the chance to vote for someone like Forbes than any of the three major choices for UK PM.

She appears to be competent, she’s not been embroiled in financial scandal, doesn’t seem to hobnob with the super rich, seems to be able to speak honestly about her thoughts and plans, and hasn’t gargled the gender-woo juice.

As she’s pointed out herself, her religious views are in line with all three Abrahamic faiths. Tony Blair is Catholic; Gordon Brown is Church of Scotland; Thatcher, Major and Cameron are/were CoE Protestants; we’ve got Muslim senior ministers… yet we don’t seem to have banned abortion, or rolled back on gay marriage.

NotHavingIt · 24/02/2023 14:27

Kemi Badenoch being her usual effortlessly brilliant self

Politico interview

Sugarfree23 · 24/02/2023 14:42

I'd never heard of Kemi so my first impressions are that interview, which is also linked up thread, my first impression is a really really good one.

The BBC are saying the poll for first minister is
Forbes - 28%
Yunsaf - 20%
Ragan - 7%
30% of the vote are undecided
And I'm guessing the others have voted for other less known MSPs.

Nightmare2022 · 24/02/2023 15:44

I love you Kate Forbes

ProstheticConscience · 24/02/2023 19:26

HootyMcboob76 · 23/02/2023 16:42

Ok.
So if stating a provable unquestionable biological fact is a transphobic hate crime, then why are all the biology and anatomy and physiology and genetics books not being taken off shelves all over the word and being burned?
Why are persisting in teaching established medical science to med students?
Why isn't Prof. Robert Winston being arrested for perpetuating the myth that sex is immutable, unchangeable and fixed?

If this is an actual CRIME, stating established reality, than EVERYTHING that does so is illegal.

This is so much fucking bollocks.

Men
Are
Not
Women

To be "trans" means that you are NOT that thing. Otherwise you would just BE that thing.

Trans women are biologically male, in every cell of their body. That is not hate, that is a fact.
Arrest me you fucking lunatics.
I'll share my cell with Prof. Winston.

Are you aware that 32 of the UK’s medical schools have signed the GLADD character on affirmation of gender identity?

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