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KJK v the Police this Friday

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Birdsweepsin · 20/02/2023 17:30

Kellie is still getting harassed by TRAs it seems. Come and support if you can at Trowbridge Police Station, midday on 24th Feb.

She asked for carrots this afternoon to help pay her legal fees and she is close to 5 and a half already, more than the 3 she needed urgently. What a woman.

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Felix125 · 22/02/2023 18:36

Not 100% sure to be honest - she will have to go through her solicitor if she wants to release it to the media

dimorphism · 22/02/2023 18:42

Felix125 · 22/02/2023 18:23

IwantToRetire

What we do know is that there are some people who try and use the police by making complaints, to harass individuals whose opinions they dont like.

I completely agree - but for us to prosecute these, you will need evidence to show that it is a false report. In this case KJK can make a counter complaint - there is nothing stopping her from doing this and can do it via her solicitor.

She doesn't know who the complainant is so how can she make a counter complaint? Also - the punishment is the process. The police have shown KJK they're willing to take the word of an aggrieved party over all the video evidence and harass KJK for months and refuse to give straight answers, and threaten to prevent her leaving the country. Why would she trust them to investigate a counter complaint seriously?

Why would ANY woman after Couzens and Carrick (and all the others who weren't sanctioned for abusing women) who were enabled by the police turning a blind eye to many red flags and dismissing the testimony of many women.

Datun · 22/02/2023 18:42

I'd actually pay good money to hear a recording of the interview. Or see a transcript.

I hope she acquires it.

dimorphism · 22/02/2023 18:44

The police have done very little about women who are stalked and abused by their partners or ex partners, there's a long list of dead women as testament to that.

They've done little about the doxxing and death threats against KJK, JKR, Caroline Farrow etc.

They've thrown women in jail without sanpro and separated them from distressed children for saying men aren't women on twitter.

Why on earth would she think a counter complaint would achieve anything if the police are involved?

dimorphism · 22/02/2023 18:45

It's sad to get to respectable middle age and realise that I'm having to teach my daughter never to trust a policeman. But that's where we are.

Datun · 22/02/2023 18:46

dimorphism · 22/02/2023 18:45

It's sad to get to respectable middle age and realise that I'm having to teach my daughter never to trust a policeman. But that's where we are.

Same. And it's entirely genuine. I really don't trust them. I think if I found one that was trustworthy, I'd be surprised

Felix125 · 22/02/2023 19:19

dimorphism
She doesn't know who the complainant is so how can she make a counter complaint?

At the end of the interview she will know exactly what the complaint is. If she believes that it is completely malicious - she can file a counter complaint.

We have mentioned the video of the event - no one can confirm if this video shows everything KJK does from the start to the finish with 100% continuity. So, she is not under constant observations. We don't know if the allegation therefore is covered in the footage.

Have the police officially told her that she can not leave the country - or is this something that has just been assumed...?

Felix125 · 22/02/2023 19:28

dimorphism

The vast majority of people in prison are males. the vast majority of PPN's submitted by police are for women victims. The vast majority of DVPO & DVPN's are to protect women and sanctioned by police. The vast majority of non mol orders and restraining orders are to protect women and supported by police. To suggest we are doing nothing is not true.

Its up to KJK at the end of the day to complain or not if she believes its malicious

RoseslnTheHospital · 22/02/2023 19:33

See, @dimorphism look how wrong you are to feel the way you feel about the police. Felix knows best.

Felix, the way you present yourself here and what you post makes a lot of women posting and reading here feel much less confident in the police.

Datun · 22/02/2023 19:34

RoseslnTheHospital · 22/02/2023 19:33

See, @dimorphism look how wrong you are to feel the way you feel about the police. Felix knows best.

Felix, the way you present yourself here and what you post makes a lot of women posting and reading here feel much less confident in the police.

I'm sure Felix knows that.

Felix125 · 22/02/2023 19:38

What by saying that the video doesn't show 100% continuity
By saying that we do not know the specifics of the allegation made
By saying that if a complaint is made, the police should investigate
By saying that if it is a false accusation, KJK can make a counter complaint

Felix125 · 22/02/2023 19:44

RoseslnTheHospital

Felix, the way you present yourself here and what you post makes a lot of women posting and reading here feel much less confident in the police.

So how would you prefer to have this

A person makes a complaint that they have been a victim of crime and has accused KJK of committing it.

But the police have realised that as it was KJK being accused - they should not take any further action right from the start regardless of what the evidence against her is.

Just ignore any due process procedures because of who she is - as we don't want to upset the MN faithful!!!

There - that better for you!

RoseslnTheHospital · 22/02/2023 19:50

Every single post makes it worse. As Datun says I think you know that and you enjoy it for some reason.

Felix125 · 22/02/2023 19:58

What exactly are you not getting?

A crime allegation is reported to the police and an investigation commences

There is no video footage that covers 100% of KJK at the event

We don't know the specifics of the allegation being made

Why don't you believe that the police should investigate to establish if the crime has occurred as stated by the reporting person?

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Birdsweepsin · 22/02/2023 19:59

I missed this, wow.... gave me all the feelz

https://youtube.com/shorts/NDN2hFnUG1Y?feature=share

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Datun · 22/02/2023 20:00

RoseslnTheHospital · 22/02/2023 19:50

Every single post makes it worse. As Datun says I think you know that and you enjoy it for some reason.

Yep.

AlisonDonut · 22/02/2023 20:08

Felix125 · 22/02/2023 19:58

What exactly are you not getting?

A crime allegation is reported to the police and an investigation commences

There is no video footage that covers 100% of KJK at the event

We don't know the specifics of the allegation being made

Why don't you believe that the police should investigate to establish if the crime has occurred as stated by the reporting person?

I think I'd ask the police officer stood next to her for the whole day whether a crime was witnessed, after all - they all have body cams recording the whole time. And if they didn't press 'record' which you told us, is how they get the running evidence saved, I'd look at the time that the officer wasn't stood and look at that footage.

Still, we will no doubt know after Friday what the actual accusation is.

Felix125 · 22/02/2023 20:15

We have been through all of this over and over and over........

The officer/s were not stood with KJK 100% of the time and were not focused on her 100% of the time. The video footage has not given 100% continuity of KJK from the start of the event to the finish. This was discussed earlier and you were part of this discussion.

The BWV footage (if any) will not give a 360 degree view of the footage 100% of the entire event.

We also - do not know what the specific allegation being made is here

oldwomanwhoruns · 22/02/2023 20:16

We don't get this, @Felix125 , because KJK is not 'nobody', but is a celebrity.
Do the police really instigate full, interviewed investigations into each and every bonkers accusation made about celebrities?
Surely, after the scandal about the Met investigation into the fictional 'VIP paedophile ring' the police should have learnt that individuals do, indeed, make vexatious accusations about celebrities??

Datun · 22/02/2023 20:16

If Kellie is convicted of a public order offence, personally, it won't make the slightest difference to my support of her. She is relentless in her pursuit of justice, and she receives nothing but injustice. With the cooperation of the police, whether from stations, or on anonymous forums.

Just saying, in case anyone fondly thinks it's going to make any difference.

Felix125 · 22/02/2023 20:20

oldwomanwhoruns

Ah OK - so any allegation against a celebrity should just be ignored from the start.

So the likes of Rolf Harris and Gary Glitter should not have been investigated then.

Datun · 22/02/2023 20:22

RoseslnTheHospital · 22/02/2023 19:50

Every single post makes it worse. As Datun says I think you know that and you enjoy it for some reason.

Indeed. Transparent.

Felix125 · 22/02/2023 20:23

Datun

So if she is convicted then - there must have been evidence to support the crime against her.

If that is the case - are you still going to say that the police should not have investigated it?

Felix125 · 22/02/2023 20:25

RoseslnTheHospital
Every single post makes it worse. As Datun says I think you know that and you enjoy it for some reason.

I don't enjoy it - I just don't understand what you are not getting

oldwomanwhoruns · 22/02/2023 20:26

Oh Ffs @Felix125 , that is reductio ad absurdam.
There must be loads of vexatious accusations made regarding people in the public eye, if only because grifters suppose that celebs have money, and they might get a bit of it.
So the VIP paedophile scandal, or rather non-scandal, is now just brushed under the carpet? Have the police learnt nothing?

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