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Hogwarts Legacy gets great reviews

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fromorbit · 06/02/2023 14:20

The Hogwarts Legacy reviews have dropped from major game review sites before release tomorrow and they are great:

Review ratings :
• PSU - 9.5
• IGN - 9
• JVCOM - 9
• Xbox Era - 9
• Power Up - 9
• Press Start - 9
• Well Played - 9
• Pushsquare - 8
• Gamerant - 4.5/5
• Screen Rant - 4.5/5
• VGC - 4/5
• Metacritic - 87

Typical review below is an example it has some of the usual anti JKR performative nonsense, but otherwise the review shows how good the game is and how close it ties into the magic of the books. :
metro.co.uk/2023/02/06/hogwarts-legacy-review-the-best-harry-potter-video-game-ever-made-18230040/

The massive failure of the campaign against Hogwarts Legacy is another example of TRA self sabotage. The game itself is good and is going to do more massive sales now it is out, and the controversy helped give it great name recognition. Better than that it demonstrates that "transphobia" is a meaningless term which people increasingly ignore. It means that the gender fanatics attempt to control how people think is collapsing more and more.

Their latest TRA ploy is to call for a boycott of Twitch because it is showing Hogwarts Legacy adverts which again is going to fail and will further alienate people:
www.thegamer.com/hogwarts-legacy-twitch-ads-boycott/

What makes this all more sweet is JKR is benefitting massively from this because TRAs are so bigoted and can't tolerate dissent. This is nothing to do with helping anyone "trans" this is just about "moral" purity. It is even more blatant now it has been revealed there is a "trans" charater in the game as well as there being no rules about whether you are a witch or wizard. Yes turns out a JKR based game doesn't care whether people call themselves witches or wizards or how they dress exactly as JKR states:
"Dress however you please.
Call yourself whatever you like."

Hogwarts Legacy "Trans" Character details
www.gamerevolution.com/news/934065-hogwarts-legacy-trans-character-transgender-sirona-ryan

Yes Hogwarts Legacy is more supportive of having an avatar which can gender non conform than most other games. Which makes sense because JKR doesn't care about that and the game reflects the universe she created.

The TRAs would never challenge the Call Of Duty franchise beloved by right wingers and where Activision the company behind it who have paid directly into Republican party coffers. No they only go after the game where a woman gets some of the profits, a woman who actively opposes the right and tried to stop Trump being elected in 2016.

If the TRAs hated the popularity of Hogwarts Legacy before it launched, they are really really going to hate how big it is going to be. They also can look forward Hogwarts {Rowling] Legacy 2 which their nonsense has helped make inevitable.

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NicolaSturgeonsSOGIbottom · 07/02/2023 13:48

I dunno if it’s due to magic or capitalism but in less than a day, thousands of online social justice activists have been demoted from ‘Power Wielding Purity Police’ to ‘Shrill Hypocritical Fun Sponges’.

And I (as the kids are wont to say) am totally here for it.

 Hogwarts Legacy gets great reviews
 Hogwarts Legacy gets great reviews
ReunitedThorns · 07/02/2023 13:54

The refusal of British game organisations to review the game (and people like that Keza) have their heads in the sand after the Scottish rapist row.

NicolaSturgeonsSOGIbottom · 07/02/2023 14:05

ReunitedThorns · 07/02/2023 13:54

The refusal of British game organisations to review the game (and people like that Keza) have their heads in the sand after the Scottish rapist row.

I don’t think they realise how quickly they’ve gone from the ‘Right Side of History’ to ‘Rape Culture Hypocrisy’!

lechiffre55 · 07/02/2023 15:18

@NicolaSturgeonsSOGIbottom
It's really hard to understand a thing as big as Gamergate. Every person will see it differently. There will have been some gamers being misogynyistic towards authoritarian woke women in Gamergate. Gamers are a huge group of people, there is good and bad in the mix.

From my point of view the same thing is happening with Gender Critical Feminism being under attack from TRAs. Authoritarian activists forcing an ideology upon an unwilling group of people population with no discussion allowed.

TRAs believe that females should accept whatever trans people want that makes them feel happy with no boundaries. Trans are a higher priority on the progressive stack than women. Many women reject this complete undermining of their already lesser rights. To have less rights and be told to give up rights for men who want them is both infuriating and ludicrous.
The methods the TRAs use to try and achieve this are where I see a parallel to gamergate. TRAs literally don't care how women feel about this, in fact women speaking up against it is just proof to TRAs how awful those gender critical women are. It is this "if someone disagrees with me that's proof they are evil" mentality, while at the same time refusing to even consider why women are so upset that is recognisable from gamergate.

This tactic has been used in several hobbies. Even knitting, yes making things from wool, got invaded and subjugated by the woke authoritarians. One small independant online wool shop involed in an online wool community put together a natural skin tone collection of wools as a package that could be bought. Only the colours weren't inclusive enough of different ethnic skin tones and so the wool shop got a ton of abuse and activists got it cancelled. No one said "ohh cool, can we get more skin tone packages for light and dark brown skin please?", instead the wool shop was evil and had to be removed from the internet. Just an example of how petty and absurd it can get.

I think these activists get a great feeling of power from their activities that they don't get outside of thier online activisim. Imagine being a nobody who creates nothing off the internet, but on the internet you are a powerful warrior who can make companies and people afraid of your wrath. I wonder how much of a buzz these activists get out of their cancellations. Even if it doesn't work, people online are talking about them. Look at the twitter shots in this thread. Who even are those people? But mumsnet is talking about them so they have found an audience.

Gamergate is a done deal now. It's over. Some gamers agree with the activists, most don't. Gamers have stopped caring about it. This HP game controversy is just a tiny flash in the pan for gamers. An irrelevance. The media suffered a LOT as a result of gamergate. If you look at some of those names I mentioned above it's very much a case of where are they now? A lot of media outlets got closed down, mainly due to the businesses failing.
Shout out to the woke Gawker media group though who managed to explode themselves in the most incredibly spectacular way. They outed a rich gay man Peter Thiel out of arrogance for shits and giggles. Thiel bore a grudge over this for years. When Gawker released the Hulk Hogan sex tape, Thiel financed Hogan's 100 million dollar lawsuit against Gawker. During the lawsuit one of the Gawker staff was asked how young someone would have to be for their sex tape not to be fair game for public broadcast by Gawker. The Gawker staffer replied "I dunno. Four?". This did not go down well. Hogan won. Gawker is no more :) Nothing of values or human decency was lost.
Games media are a shadow of themselves. What's left are hanging on by a thread. Alternate media now competes with them and does very well. Just as gender critical women have abandoned the Guardian for KJK on you tube so too did gamers go elsewhere. Just as the Guardian begs you for money every time you visit, games media needs every last penny to survive. They cannot afford to turn down Harry Potter advertising revenue, and must swallow their pride or fold.

I don't half go on sorry :) Will answer your questions in a seperate reply.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/02/2023 15:32

I think it's a bit silly on both sides, those trying to get it cancelled AND those trying to promote for reasons related to JK Rowling's views on trans issues.

Maybe so, but only one side is going to throw massive screeching tantrums about the outcome.

lowclouds · 07/02/2023 15:36

2Rebecca · 07/02/2023 12:19

The TRAs blaming capitalism for the game's success are missing the point. The game is successful because it's a good game and people want to buy and play good games.
I think a gaming website refusing to review it just looks petulant although it's easy for people to find reviews elsewhere. If I want to play a game I often don't read reviews as many of them have spoilers.

To be honest I think both sides of this look petulant and silly.

All the smug talk on mumsnet about the success of this game is just as bad.

The idea that the sales of a game that was always going to be a major global success (because it's Harry Potter) somehow demonstrates support in either direction, for or against trans rights, is delusional.

It's Harry Potter and millions of people globally love it - the majority have no idea/ don't give a flying f* about JK Rowling's views on trans issues. They just want to play a game about wizards and magic.

lunathestral · 07/02/2023 15:38

can't wait for this to come out but unfortunately I have a Switch :-(

lowclouds · 07/02/2023 15:39

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/02/2023 15:32

I think it's a bit silly on both sides, those trying to get it cancelled AND those trying to promote for reasons related to JK Rowling's views on trans issues.

Maybe so, but only one side is going to throw massive screeching tantrums about the outcome.

I see enough screeching tantrums on here too to be fair.

Both sides as bad as each other, both need to listen more to what the other are saying.

lechiffre55 · 07/02/2023 15:40

@NicolaSturgeonsSOGIbottom
Somewhat related question: do you think Elon Musk’s twitter purchase has changed the atmosphere? I think it’ll be a key part of the authoritarian activists losing their grip of influence, although might be a slow and incremental change rather the more instant one free speechers might’ve hoped for.

I hope Elon buying Twitter helps everyone have free speech. It can't be any worse than before. I agree with you that the process will be slow. To me free speech is very important. This concept that there is only one right way to think is incredibly abusive to try and force upon people.
Everyone who likes or supports censorship only ever does so when the people pulling the levers of power agree with them. They never consider what effect that same censorship will have on their lives when the person making the decisions has different ideas. It is a fool's utopia.

There's a reason authoritarians choose the methods of fear, initmidation, and cancellation that they do, they don't have good enough arguments or reasoning that would win in a debate. Hence no debate. Sturgeon is a prime example of this. A cockamamy idea pushed through while ignoring any opposing views. A proper debate would have shown up the flaws and measures could have been put in place to deals with the obvious problems. But no, Submarine Sturgeon battened down the hatches and pushed it through no debate. Now she's been torpedoed by her own creation and is sinking fast. Has Sturgeon consigned independance and her career to Davey Jones' locker for good? If she had been prepared to debate this wouldn't have happened, but she demonstrated that she couldn't argue the case on merits. I hope the people of Scotland get better than her.

NicolaSturgeonsSOGIbottom · 07/02/2023 15:41

Over on Reddit r/gamingcirclejerk has descended it to what this random person calls a ‘civil war’ over being dicks to those streamers last night.

I shouldn’t be so gleeful at seeing random little prick nobodies be exposed for hypocrisy but I am gleeful and I’m not embarrassed to admit it.

 Hogwarts Legacy gets great reviews
 Hogwarts Legacy gets great reviews
 Hogwarts Legacy gets great reviews
 Hogwarts Legacy gets great reviews
 Hogwarts Legacy gets great reviews
SidewaysOtter · 07/02/2023 15:44

To be honest I think both sides of this look petulant and silly.

Yes, you've made that point three times now on this thread Hmm Most of us have heard the 'both sides are as bad as each other' schtick ad nauseam.

SidewaysOtter · 07/02/2023 15:47

@NicolaSturgeonsSOGIbottom Christ on a cracker, it makes the local playground look grown up and civilised. Is there an element of a certain cohort of people being upset at the game's success because they thought everyone would boycott it (after all, everyone agrees with them except those nasty GCs, right?) only to find that wasn't the case?

MrsTerryPratchett · 07/02/2023 16:03

lowclouds · 07/02/2023 15:39

I see enough screeching tantrums on here too to be fair.

Both sides as bad as each other, both need to listen more to what the other are saying.

While I don't think both sides are as bad as each other (one side is after all not being violently threatening) I do agree that knowing the other side's position and listening to the whys is important.

However, women started in that place. Sympathetic and understanding. It became increasingly clear that nothing but total simpering capitulation was OK. And that was just OK. Once one side wants to salt the earth and hear the lamentation of the women, it behooves us to hold ground.

ShireWifeofNigelFarage · 07/02/2023 16:03

A proper debate would have shown up the flaws and measures could have been put in place to deals with the obvious problems. But no, Submarine Sturgeon battened down the hatches and pushed it through no debate. Now she's been torpedoed by her own creation and is sinking fast. Has Sturgeon consigned independance and her career to Davey Jones' locker for good? If she had been prepared to debate this wouldn't have happened, but she demonstrated that she couldn't argue the case on merits. I hope the people of Scotland get better than her.

Sturgeon, I believe, fell for the GenderWooWoo because nationalism functions very similarly as IDPOL.
I’m still thinking it through really but Scottish and Welsh nationalism might actually just be functioning as a non-American identity type in the intersectional stack?
The SNP use the Scottish identity to shut down criticism from people who don’t share that identity (eg Westminster!) and to mask their bad policy ideas and their failures to complete projects, just like TRAs do.

‘No debate’ is Sturgeon’s natural position on everything.

pringlee · 07/02/2023 16:05

@MrsTerryPratchett You're entitled to your views but remember they're not the views of all women. You don't speak for women, you speak for yourself.

NicolaSturgeonsSOGIbottom · 07/02/2023 16:06

In-joke themed username fail! 🤦‍♀️

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MrsTerryPratchett · 07/02/2023 16:11

pringlee · 07/02/2023 16:05

@MrsTerryPratchett You're entitled to your views but remember they're not the views of all women. You don't speak for women, you speak for yourself.

Did I not use enough qualifying language? Urg, it's so tedious.

Many women
Several people
Not all men

Women are constantly told to use qualifying language. And there are studies so I don't need to qualify that.

Wehadabetamax · 07/02/2023 16:31

The 😱🤬 bullying behaviour of the trans activists is peaking people as far as the eye can see.

My 22 year old daughter happily told me that she is now 'transphobic' as she has bought the game.

Rheia1983 · 07/02/2023 16:44

I played the game for a few hours early this morning. The introduction was beautifully done and I was smiling in happiness.

So far, the game is fantastic and I'm grateful to JKR for her imagination and her work as well as to the game developers who seem to have put a lot of love and heart into the game.

PrtScn · 07/02/2023 17:36

I normally would have waited to buy the game in a sale about a year after release. However I've just pre-ordered it from a bricks and mortar shop as I had some vouchers. Roll on Friday!

glasshole · 07/02/2023 17:42

I've pre ordered it and got early access so Ben playing it all day. The graphics are stunning. My teenager is very impressed and C we've enjoyed exploring today and setting up avatars etc.

WhereYouLeftIt · 07/02/2023 17:42

pringlee · 07/02/2023 16:05

@MrsTerryPratchett You're entitled to your views but remember they're not the views of all women. You don't speak for women, you speak for yourself.

Ooh, get you!

nauticant · 07/02/2023 17:44

I'm getting lost in who's being ironic and who's for real. Kind of a reflection of gaming culture I suppose.

gamerchick · 07/02/2023 17:52

PaterPower · 06/02/2023 14:32

I’d buy the game to show my support but, like most AAA console titles now, it’s £60 (for the standard edition, you can choose to shell out more). It’s a sixth of the price of the original hardware!

Much as I admire JKR, I struggle to see the value of new release games at that price.

The price is normal for a new release.

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