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Hogwarts Legacy gets great reviews

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fromorbit · 06/02/2023 14:20

The Hogwarts Legacy reviews have dropped from major game review sites before release tomorrow and they are great:

Review ratings :
• PSU - 9.5
• IGN - 9
• JVCOM - 9
• Xbox Era - 9
• Power Up - 9
• Press Start - 9
• Well Played - 9
• Pushsquare - 8
• Gamerant - 4.5/5
• Screen Rant - 4.5/5
• VGC - 4/5
• Metacritic - 87

Typical review below is an example it has some of the usual anti JKR performative nonsense, but otherwise the review shows how good the game is and how close it ties into the magic of the books. :
metro.co.uk/2023/02/06/hogwarts-legacy-review-the-best-harry-potter-video-game-ever-made-18230040/

The massive failure of the campaign against Hogwarts Legacy is another example of TRA self sabotage. The game itself is good and is going to do more massive sales now it is out, and the controversy helped give it great name recognition. Better than that it demonstrates that "transphobia" is a meaningless term which people increasingly ignore. It means that the gender fanatics attempt to control how people think is collapsing more and more.

Their latest TRA ploy is to call for a boycott of Twitch because it is showing Hogwarts Legacy adverts which again is going to fail and will further alienate people:
www.thegamer.com/hogwarts-legacy-twitch-ads-boycott/

What makes this all more sweet is JKR is benefitting massively from this because TRAs are so bigoted and can't tolerate dissent. This is nothing to do with helping anyone "trans" this is just about "moral" purity. It is even more blatant now it has been revealed there is a "trans" charater in the game as well as there being no rules about whether you are a witch or wizard. Yes turns out a JKR based game doesn't care whether people call themselves witches or wizards or how they dress exactly as JKR states:
"Dress however you please.
Call yourself whatever you like."

Hogwarts Legacy "Trans" Character details
www.gamerevolution.com/news/934065-hogwarts-legacy-trans-character-transgender-sirona-ryan

Yes Hogwarts Legacy is more supportive of having an avatar which can gender non conform than most other games. Which makes sense because JKR doesn't care about that and the game reflects the universe she created.

The TRAs would never challenge the Call Of Duty franchise beloved by right wingers and where Activision the company behind it who have paid directly into Republican party coffers. No they only go after the game where a woman gets some of the profits, a woman who actively opposes the right and tried to stop Trump being elected in 2016.

If the TRAs hated the popularity of Hogwarts Legacy before it launched, they are really really going to hate how big it is going to be. They also can look forward Hogwarts {Rowling] Legacy 2 which their nonsense has helped make inevitable.

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ShireWifeofNigelFarage · 10/02/2023 19:34

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 10/02/2023 19:33

Itv news have just reported the trans character being voiced by sebastion croft…the blithering idiots

🤦‍♀️

BeBraveLittlePenguin · 10/02/2023 19:38

nauticant · 10/02/2023 18:47

Because witchfinders tend to believe that JKR has special powers.

Oh I just assumed stupidity and/or bad faith Grin

PissedOffAmericanWoman · 10/02/2023 19:55

fromorbit · 10/02/2023 05:15

MargaritaPie is just another person who wants to give JKR more money by saying weird stuff about a liberal children's book series which is about how being prejudiced is bad. Retconning a book series every liberal person loved before 2020 is an absurd reach. I remember right wingers moaning that HP turned millennials into liberal lefties and to be honest they were not wrong, there was a reason that JKR was a massive hero during the rise of Trump and Brexit.

The most popular children's book series on the PLANET isn't racist. That would require a lot of people of different skin colours to be remarkably stupid. Remember the fuss over casting of Hermione in the play as black and how JKR was all for it.
edition.cnn.com/2015/12/21/africa/harry-potter-noma-dumezwenito-hermione/index.html

The reason this debate is so vicious is because it is in the UK at least a war between different factions of liberal left leaning people. Though obviously we dislike the right the left ultimately is way more into policing our own side at the end of day and then weirdly insisting the person we are policing is actually right wing. We love our purity drives. I mean Gender Crits are great, but it is no coincidence that we have our own vicious infighting.

This trend tends to backfire a LOT. The boycott i.e "publicity drive" for Hogwarts Legacy is an example of that. The game is fairly good, by all accounts, but the fact it is doing better on Twitch than the biggest gaming franchises ever and other huge media franchise games i.e Star Wars owes everything to the failed boycott.

The boycott drama told people the game exists and as soon as they heard they wanted to play to check it out. The game is fun enough to get people raving. So even more sales. You did what you wanted to avoid gave JKR more money.

More to the point if even 5% of the game players check out what JKR actually said as opposed to what people claim she said we will have gained thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people to our side. It also made Trans Activists look discredited especially as it showed how much they love bullying people.

warning this comment is merely a theory and pure speculation and may be a bit offensive if you are particularly religious. Not intentionally offensive of course!

In paganism we have a concept of latent christianity.

Here’s a video from a popular pagan youtuber who discusses it. If you are christian just be warned he does not tiptoe around christian feelings. Sorry the purposes isn’t to offend christians by the way but this video explains it best.

Basically there are a lot of pagans who convert from christianity who often had a very bad, toxic or even spiritually abusive experience and they can sometimes be quite angry. Even if they aren’t angry sometimes they carry over old christian habits very often unknowingly. Or they may obsess over it and talk about all the annoying things that they had to put up with while growing up christian.

Why am I talking about this? Well it’s not to derail the thread! It’s because I think as a society generally speaking we are becoming less and less religious and I think the concept doesn’t just apply to pagans. Ever talked to that one atheist who just seems like the very mention of religion leaves them on fire with fury? You can probably blame latent christianity!

Carrying over old religious habits I think is significant here. A lot of TRA’s show signs of latent christianity in my opinion as many of them aren’t particularly religious or simply casually religious. The ones that are christian are often only christian in name but do not practice regularly.

In a way I often feel that the extreme conservative christian type personalities that plagued us in the 90’s and early 2000’s (you know the types that thought harry potter was satanic) didn’t go away. They merely shifted over to TRA land. And I think they carried over their attitudes of obsessing over what it means to be a “good person” and ethical purity.

But instead they just became wildly self righteous. See how they often shun the ‘non-believers’? It’s frowned upon to ask too many questions. The concept of dogma is very real and alive in this culture! Look at mermaids. They are essentially the modern version of the catholic child sex abuse scandal! The trans personalities in charge were once (and often still are) unquestionable much like a catholic priest. They are the personified idea of goodness and ethical knowledge. Then it is discovered that this “safe haven” for children was never safe at all.

I think that’s why they are so easily offended. They group up and bully anyone that pokes holes in their ideology of ethical purity and goodness. This ideology is a shield from the harsh realities of their world. They are threatened because of cognitive dissonance that they feel because science is not on their side.

Very similar to how some radical christians will try to argue that evolution isn’t real. They try to twist, bend, and even go so far as to invent their own science so that creationism is the only explanation that makes sense. At least to them that is…

While christian’s that aren’t bullying or abusive much like my cousin. She says that she feels that no one knows how the world was created and in her opinion that’s a beautiful and mysterious thing and it’s okay to not have all the answers!

But TRA’s are often not logical thinkers when it comes to their precious ideology.

The fact is that anyone who claims any kind of ethical purity or claim to be all knowing of the difference between good and evil we should be cautious of! I’ve found that any group that shuns their version of ‘non believers’ and doesn’t believe in the idea of agreeing to disagree are usually types to be weary of.

The fact is that good and evil are very nuanced. There sadly is no clear cut concept of it. There’s a lot of gray and everything is very situational. The age old dilemma of the train crashing into a group of adults or one small child. There are no good answers sometimes. Sometimes we just have to make the choices that we can live with.

ReunitedThorns · 10/02/2023 20:13

I need some recommendations for decent video game websites.

This whole debacle has shown me that most games websites can't be trusted because they refuse to acknowledge the existence of the No.1 best selling game and are so cowardly they have to delete mention of it in comments and ban users for mentioning it.

In direct reference to this game I grow tired of the amount of heterosexual men (who identify as trans women) writing diatribes about JKR on these game websites.

It's really silly that many websites are banning users for stating that they're playing the No.1 best selling game based off of a children's book series.

NitroNine · 10/02/2023 21:37

I don’t particularly want to watch someone having a hate-on at Christians thanks @PissedOffAmericanWoman; not least because “latent Christianity” is not a Pagan concept: starting from such a flawed position does not inspire confidence.

C.S. Lewis wrote about it, for example - indeed, the much-quoted passage from the posthumously published God In The Dock (1970) is considered by many to be definitive. Most of Europe is still, to varying degrees, culturally/latently Christian - & that’s expressed very differently both in & between Protestant countries & Catholic ones - & for all its variation, European religiosity is markedly different from that of North America.

What exactly are the “old Christian habits” you refer to? Because that does just sound like you’re after claiming some kind of moral superiority AND stating unequivocally that Christianity is inherently negative & damaging.

The religions most TRAs align with are Judaism, Paganism & Wicca. Effectively rubbishing the authenticity of their conversions (where applicable) & profundity & sincerity of their beliefs to push your (tbqh ill-formed & incoherent) pet theory is distasteful, to say the least.

Quite how you think it’s reasonable to go from “these people exist in a predominantly Christian cultural context” to “their engagement with a movement that fulfils criteria of being a cult? totally the fault of the amount of Christianity they’ve been exposed to!” I really don’t know. Not least because it ignores the existence of TRAs from countries where individuals’ experience of Christianity will be limited to imported popular culture.

Extreme conservative Christians are still out there being extreme Conservative Christians. They haven’t gone toddling off to be TRAs - many of them oppose the very concept of genderism on religious grounds. The purity spirals you see with TRAs are nothing to do with religion; & nothing new in far left politics (where they position themselves ideologically) - just consider the way the Cultural Revolution was enacted. One could arguably go back further - Revolutionary France & the eventual execution of the “incorruptible” Robespierre.

As for telling us about nuance… did ye mean to find some of the men making rape & death threats to share that wee message with? Because the women on here are endlessly patient, kind - pretty much the full famous!Corinthians in fact.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/02/2023 21:43

The M to F trans-character's name is Sirona Ryan, a very masculine sounding name.

How? Grin

PissedOffAmericanWoman · 10/02/2023 22:01

NitroNine · 10/02/2023 21:37

I don’t particularly want to watch someone having a hate-on at Christians thanks @PissedOffAmericanWoman; not least because “latent Christianity” is not a Pagan concept: starting from such a flawed position does not inspire confidence.

C.S. Lewis wrote about it, for example - indeed, the much-quoted passage from the posthumously published God In The Dock (1970) is considered by many to be definitive. Most of Europe is still, to varying degrees, culturally/latently Christian - & that’s expressed very differently both in & between Protestant countries & Catholic ones - & for all its variation, European religiosity is markedly different from that of North America.

What exactly are the “old Christian habits” you refer to? Because that does just sound like you’re after claiming some kind of moral superiority AND stating unequivocally that Christianity is inherently negative & damaging.

The religions most TRAs align with are Judaism, Paganism & Wicca. Effectively rubbishing the authenticity of their conversions (where applicable) & profundity & sincerity of their beliefs to push your (tbqh ill-formed & incoherent) pet theory is distasteful, to say the least.

Quite how you think it’s reasonable to go from “these people exist in a predominantly Christian cultural context” to “their engagement with a movement that fulfils criteria of being a cult? totally the fault of the amount of Christianity they’ve been exposed to!” I really don’t know. Not least because it ignores the existence of TRAs from countries where individuals’ experience of Christianity will be limited to imported popular culture.

Extreme conservative Christians are still out there being extreme Conservative Christians. They haven’t gone toddling off to be TRAs - many of them oppose the very concept of genderism on religious grounds. The purity spirals you see with TRAs are nothing to do with religion; & nothing new in far left politics (where they position themselves ideologically) - just consider the way the Cultural Revolution was enacted. One could arguably go back further - Revolutionary France & the eventual execution of the “incorruptible” Robespierre.

As for telling us about nuance… did ye mean to find some of the men making rape & death threats to share that wee message with? Because the women on here are endlessly patient, kind - pretty much the full famous!Corinthians in fact.

Not hating on christian’s. However I am hating on radical christian’s. I don’t think you read my entire post if you think I hate them all. Merely the ones that carry flawed ideas such as the fact that JK rowling is satanic. 🤨

2Rebecca · 10/02/2023 22:01

It isn't as masculine as Sam Ryan in Silent Witness and no-one queried her gender identity. It sounds like people looking for something to get upset about. If she'd made her one of the numerous Lilys or Roses she'd have been accused of using a stereotypical trans name. No name would have been right.

PissedOffAmericanWoman · 10/02/2023 22:06

@NitroNine

To be 110% clear I was never hating on christian’s and a i tried to preface this very much so.

Here is a quote.
the extreme conservative christian type personalities that plagued us in the 90’s and early 2000’s (you know the types that thought harry potter was satanic)

If you are a christian that thinks that harry potter is satanic however please do be offended! You are the type that should be offended by my post!

lechiffre55 · 10/02/2023 22:25

@PissedOffAmericanWoman @NitroNine
I think you are at each other's throat over misunderstanding each other.
Re read what each other has written giving each other the benefit of the doubt.

PissedOffAmericanWoman · 10/02/2023 22:36

lechiffre55 · 10/02/2023 22:25

@PissedOffAmericanWoman @NitroNine
I think you are at each other's throat over misunderstanding each other.
Re read what each other has written giving each other the benefit of the doubt.

I wanted to keep reading her post but it was really clear that she missed the point entirely and I was getting rather defensive because the more I read the more off track she was so I simply tried to clear things up the best I could do that I could respond in a calm manner. So I confess to not reading it all but only because she was really terribly missing the point.

I don’t think I can read her entire post without responding in a way that will get me banned. So for everyone’s sake I will reframe. I also worry about derailing OP’s thread further. I really tried to remain sensitive as possible.

But I should have known it was silly to reply from my perspective as a pagan person. We are often deeply misunderstood often intentionally so.
No one wants to understand someone like me. We are “devil worshippers” in their eyes. 🫤

My feelings are a bit hurt so maybe I’ll try again when I’m not feeling so upset.

lechiffre55 · 10/02/2023 22:39

PissedOffAmericanWoman · 10/02/2023 22:36

I wanted to keep reading her post but it was really clear that she missed the point entirely and I was getting rather defensive because the more I read the more off track she was so I simply tried to clear things up the best I could do that I could respond in a calm manner. So I confess to not reading it all but only because she was really terribly missing the point.

I don’t think I can read her entire post without responding in a way that will get me banned. So for everyone’s sake I will reframe. I also worry about derailing OP’s thread further. I really tried to remain sensitive as possible.

But I should have known it was silly to reply from my perspective as a pagan person. We are often deeply misunderstood often intentionally so.
No one wants to understand someone like me. We are “devil worshippers” in their eyes. 🫤

My feelings are a bit hurt so maybe I’ll try again when I’m not feeling so upset.

While it's valid to be upset, quite often people get upset at each other through misunderstanding. Paganism is a religion just like any other. I have a friend who is very anti-religious to the point that it looks like a religion to me.
Peace to both of you.

NitroNine · 11/02/2023 01:47

@PissedOffAmericanWoman
Unless you are in fact the gentleman in the video you opened your post by recommending, I’ve not suggested you hate anyone. I
thought that in the context simply the verb “watch” was sufficient to signal it was media described in such a way as to make it abundantly clear it is anti-Christian that I was referencing.

I read your post very carefully, hence responding to individual points in it. I may of course not have simply not understood your argument. Has “latent Christianity” been redefined by [some] Pagans (none I know would be familiar with usage of the term outwith those referenced in my post) meaning we are in fact thinking of discrete trends? That’s why I wished to interrogate the idea of “old Christian habits” [as essentially harmful].

I’m the sort of Christian other Christians accuse of following the Anti-Christ. The sort that Isn’t Really Christian & is thus subjected to conversion attempts. Oh & who it’s apparently quite reasonable to threaten to murder. (The “mixed” marriages all through my family tree don’t actually help with that.) I was actively encouraged, not merely allowed, to be friends with people of all faiths & none from the point in babyhood where I could recognise other children. My branch of the one family tree (if we consider our family record as a forest, not a single tree) is now free-floating; a single bough held in place by branches from surrounding trees, all the rest having been burned away in the Holocaust. My branch converted to Catholicism on moving to Ireland; the tree from which it grew, at home in Germany, of course did not. So no, I’m not at all what you seem to be assuming.

My pointing out issues with your argument as presented has nothing to do with your religion. I really hope you’re unaware that such an allegation - even a groundless & easily disprovable one - could cause me serious trouble with MumsNet.

I was trying to unpack, in good faith, an argument I genuinely found incoherent. (Apologies if you’ve said elsewhere that [like me] you have neurological issues that can impact communication, if so I’m unaware not ignoring; I’m not trying to be unkind, but I really found it very confusing.) The more I re-read it the more it seems a different version of “latent Christianity” is meant than the established definition - more in the sense of individuals having a personal level of residual Christianity, perhaps? Then there is the difficulty that atheism is expressed as differently as religiosity is so trying to apply the US understanding/model of it globally is necessarily unsatisfactory; which I did not make explicit (& I should know better than to assume people will extrapolate from counterpoint [in this case global variations religion & religiosity]). There is no point my breaking down your post to try to uncover what you did mean (not least as it’s 0143 here & I need to sleep) but I would very much appreciate clarification if you are willing to provide it.

I’m a regular poster on here, always with this name. I don’t mean I think you should have recognised me (as it were); but rather that if you’d looked me up you’d have known my failure to understand was genuine. I really am very sorry you’ve been so upset - but @lechiffre55’s “helpful” contribution to the contrary, I was not at your throat. My criticism was in fact rather less robust than is the norm for these boards - & once again, nothing to do with your religion; nor any influence your religion [may have] had on shaping your argument.

HorribleNecktie · 11/02/2023 11:39

PissedOffAmericanWoman · 10/02/2023 22:36

I wanted to keep reading her post but it was really clear that she missed the point entirely and I was getting rather defensive because the more I read the more off track she was so I simply tried to clear things up the best I could do that I could respond in a calm manner. So I confess to not reading it all but only because she was really terribly missing the point.

I don’t think I can read her entire post without responding in a way that will get me banned. So for everyone’s sake I will reframe. I also worry about derailing OP’s thread further. I really tried to remain sensitive as possible.

But I should have known it was silly to reply from my perspective as a pagan person. We are often deeply misunderstood often intentionally so.
No one wants to understand someone like me. We are “devil worshippers” in their eyes. 🫤

My feelings are a bit hurt so maybe I’ll try again when I’m not feeling so upset.

I’m a pagan as well and I don’t get exactly what you’re wanging on about.

nauticant · 11/02/2023 12:30

Very strange diversion the thread has taken.

Anyway, back to the subject in question, I've been saying for ages that JKR will have been counselled not to launch a libel action because of what it could unleash but I'd imagine that even her counsellors are now finding their litigation fingers twitching:

twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1624169734131310721

ShireWifeofNigelFarage · 11/02/2023 12:48

Jessie Gender is a particularly egregious YouTuber - Jessie’s own sister is a detrans man from the social contagion/ROGD generation!

Here’s a fun little video from TikTok, reposted to subreddit ‘Tik Tok Cringe’ (which stopped being cringe only a while ago and now is just reposts of interesting TikToks.

Haven’t read all the 1400 plus comments but the ones I did read seem pretty sane. Perhaps the extreme genderist mods are losing some of their Reddit power?

www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/comments/10yx5hf/lemme_enjoy_games_pls/

 Hogwarts Legacy gets great reviews
ShireWifeofNigelFarage · 11/02/2023 12:53

Bum, missed off the Jessie Gender (YouTube account name) Jessie Earl (actual name) Gamespot article link:

www.gamespot.com/amp-articles/jk-rowlings-anti-transgender-stance-and-hogwarts-legacy/1100-6501632/

 Hogwarts Legacy gets great reviews
 Hogwarts Legacy gets great reviews
SinnerBoy · 11/02/2023 14:03

ShireWifeofNigelFarage · Today 12:53

Bum, missed off the Jessie Gender (YouTube account name) Jessie Earl (actual name) Gamespot article link:

He wrote a blatant lie, about "safe puberty blockers."

ShireWifeofNigelFarage · 11/02/2023 14:11

Yeah, the blatant untruths thing is well on-brand!

ReunitedThorns · 11/02/2023 14:25

I've seen that article before and couldn't be bothered to read it fully, because it goes on and on and just makes statements that aren't true, "ROGD doesn't exist because I say so" etc.

And then when you look at the author you understand why they have so much anger against a successful woman.

But I see these articles as indoctrination, why does someone who wants the latest games news need to know about ROGD?

I've seen the same with Lego, any news on Harry Potter sets gets hijacked by TRAs demanding that everyone know about trans issues. Even the Ukraine war got into "but what about the trans?".

ReunitedThorns · 11/02/2023 18:37

ResetEra, a site which has enforced a ban on reporting and discussions of the game, has an admin that has been discovered to be playing the game.

It seems that all of these sites have a public face and then do the very opposite in private.

ShireWifeofNigelFarage · 11/02/2023 18:59

ReunitedThorns · 11/02/2023 18:37

ResetEra, a site which has enforced a ban on reporting and discussions of the game, has an admin that has been discovered to be playing the game.

It seems that all of these sites have a public face and then do the very opposite in private.

FOMO sure is powerful!

Will the admin be bullied out or will it turn out that everyone is playing it and no one has a leg pure enough to stand on?

Rainbowshit · 11/02/2023 20:22

ReunitedThorns · 11/02/2023 18:37

ResetEra, a site which has enforced a ban on reporting and discussions of the game, has an admin that has been discovered to be playing the game.

It seems that all of these sites have a public face and then do the very opposite in private.

Ah ha ha. I bet they all are playing it in secret.

fromorbit · 12/02/2023 10:39

Jessie Earl got called out by JKR for a weird puritanical take on Harry Potter stuff.

twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1604180531155017731?

Earl has probably done a lot for JKR's bank balance through pushing the Boycott- Sales promotion line.

Remember JKR has never promoted the game herself or ANY video game connected to the franchise. Because she doesn't care. She never told millions of her followers to buy a game just to cash in. Her tweets recently have been about the horrible situation in Iran and the implosion of TRA thinking in Scotland where she lives.

Meanwhile Hogwarts Legacy is the most popular game on Steam PC gaming platform EVER! And not by a small amount. Over 800,000 streams at once the closest competitor in the past is just over 500,000. These are just numbers on PC the numbers gaming on playstation will be as high or higher.

Full sales figures to be confirmed, but HL is already breaking multiple records and is on course to become a blockbuster gaming hit one of the biggest of all time.

Without the bigotry of TRAs would it have been possible? They were vital in the promotion and giving HL an edgy status which gamers love. Then word of mouth got going.

It was always going to be big, but the boycott promotion seems to have been key in getting a massive buzz going.

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SinnerBoy · 12/02/2023 11:43

Rosie Duffield MP

My own path to righteous enlightenment will start this evening when I set fire to all the books, stamp on the dvds wearing snowy wellies and throw my son's old toy Buckbeak out of the window. Will that help?

Excellent response, Rosie!