Trump has peaked

[oldwomanwhoruns]

Trump has peaked

Surely the gender nutters have to reverse ferret now? Surely?

Oh shit now I'm in agreement with Trump. (But only 2 sentences in so there's gope for me yet)

Fuck my life!

But he's not wrong.

Blghhh.

Gope? Hope

Was trump tw are women before?

He’s right on this one.

On literally everything else - not so much.

I don't know, but he's sounding sane. Which must show how wrong it's all gone! He read the room. He'll get the votes.

Yep, some seriously weird and scary people are on the side of sanity with this issue

Even a stopped clock and all that.

I think what we have to remember is that this isn't a political issue, it's a human dignity and safety issue. Like child safety and other bloody obvious things.

Although he was unacceptably homophobic in there with his nuclear family schtik

I was a bit concerned on the bit about gender roles and celebrating the nuclear family. On leaving children out the trans nonsense I'm 100% with him though

Not very happy about the ‘nuclear family’ stuff and no, Mr Trump, sex is not assigned at birth. But I do agree with him on the rest of it. This is alarming, so I may need to lie down for a while…

They won't.

They'll go "orange man says this! It is therefore our moral duty to disagree!" It's oppositional thinking.

But that could be the Democrats sunk now.

He ruined it with the nuculur family shiz. Up till then he was, as pp said, reading the room quite well.

Yank here. Trump doesn't care the slightest about this issue. He's just putting bait in the water to see who bites at it. His poll numbers are bad and steadily getting worse, so he's looking for a plan B. Even if people believe that he cares about this issue, it will not improve his numbers significantly.

Oh bloody hell.

Why are the far right the ones getting it right??!

You mean when he talked about grabbing them by the ladydick?

But seriously, my reaction was oh, fuck. No surprise the hard right is doubling down on this given the spectacular clusterfuck America's left has made of this issue. But it's going to be making it even harder to get anywhere.

Well that's interesting. Wonder how long it will be for the "you're discussing Trump - you're all right wing fascists" to arrive. Then we can have some fascinating discussions about supporting male rapists, sex offenders and paedophiles to access victims in women's prisons versus listening to a vile politician speak (mainly) sense about the sterilisation and mutilation of children's bodies and minds.

He's clearly reading it very carefully off the auto-cue!

This, surely, has to be bringing some sunlight onto this murky subject? People who knew nothing about the issue will now be saying, what, you what, operations on minors??

He's a hate-mongering transphobe. A real one, not a "believes sex is binary and immutable" one that we get accused of being. If supporting trans people would get him votes he'd probably lie about and pretend to support them because he's a shameless in pursuit of what he wants. But he hates them because they are of no use to him.

He hates women, he hates lesbians and gay men, he hates immigrants, he hates people with disabilities. He is racist.

The fact he has made this statement has nothing to do with the protection of women's rights, nor to protect vulnerable young people from irreversible damage.

I can agree with Hitler, Pol Pot and Trump that the earth is round. It doesn't mean I'm on their side.

And women's safety is hardly Trump's concern.

The right wing in the US have used cultural wedge issues to get the vote out for decades. It started with the Southern Strategy, then abortion, then guns, now this.

They don't give a shit about women, it just happens that the Venn diagram between their "traditional" families bullshit and feminist opposition to gender ideology crosses over on this one point.

"Child sexual mutilation"

Good phrase.

Can't stand him otherwise but gosh he's bang on.

He is a transphobe. He's totally uninterested in this except as a point to beat the Democrats. Nothing about the safety or dignity of women. He is actually the person Sturgeon was talking about.

Confused

Trump said this all along! I thought I was looking at a zombie thread?!

He was also anti abortion if it got him the votes. He wasn't such a moral beacon in the past.

Will say anything for votes.

I've noticed that far right extremist characters do tend to set their stall out with reasonable ideas to tempt people in. Look at UKIP- their Candidate publications were all about regerating their local high streets and campaigning for better transport links. With these reasonable ideas we're a side order to the banquest of racism.

Oh missed the nuclear family bit.

His speech writer has hung out with Matt Walsh.