31 Jan 15:15 Women & Equalities Committee - Scottish GRR Bill

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Tomorrow 31st Jan at 15:15 the UK Government's Women and Equalities Committee are holding an evidence gathering session in relation to the Scottish GRR Bill. We can watch on Parliament TV live.

The witnesses are:
Naomi Cunningham Barrister and member of legal feminist
Dr Michael Foran, Public Law lecturer at Glasgow University.
Lord Charlie Falconer Barrister
Robin White Barrister

committees.parliament.uk/event/17258/formal-meeting-oral-evidence-session/

2 different genders in the tax records?

Firstly Robin should know it's sex not gender and secondly how the fuck can the tax office do it but no other important department can?

Robin has No GRC??

Did I hear right?

That's what I heard too.

Hmmmm 🤐🤐

Onto erotic cross dressers

Ahh the joys of politics. This is taking me back to 80s newspaper headlines.

He was talking about T May was that about bringing self I'D in? Or was she looking to change the current system slightly?

Oh. I've lost the will to live its been suspended

terfgogglebox

I'm just at that bit ..........👀

"What your talking about is the law going bonkers"

To late mate it already has that's why you are having this deranged meeting

Summary: it’s all a mess. No one can agree. Even the ‘experts’.

So how on earth is everyone supposed to understand/navigate it.

Ah I've just realised Kate is a friend of a friend near me. Their kids in the same year. My friend is gently GC now and said Kate only sees it through the past in terms of how hard it was to be gay.

(Mp)

Weren’t centres in Scotland/elsewhere having to be inclusive of men to get funding?

The only way out of this mess is to repeal the GRA. Men can look how they like & wear what they please but they must stay out of womens single sex spaces/services. Otherwise all safeguarding goes out the window!

They're just growing round in circles.

Lord f on the one hand describes the gatekeeping with the current system and then says the Scottish idea (zero gatekeeping) doesn't cause issues against the EA laws because the current system (with some gatekeeping) doesn't

Yes I believe so

You are correct - Legal Feminist has a good summary of the situation -

www.legalfeminist.org.uk/2021/09/12/fostering-good-relations/

I can't manage the last 25 minutes my mind has melted.

Upshot the law is an ass (but no one is sure if it's a male or female ass)

You weren't the only one to make the same mistake on reading.

Yes, there's a regular poster in here who works in a centre and has said that they have to fund a male group in a different service in order to keep their own funding iirc. Not even just signposting to a male group but having to fund them. It's not reciprocal though (obviously).

At 16:25:09

RMW: and it isn't actually a practical difficulty. I don't have a GRC. I have had...I transitioned just before the Theresa May period and was looking forward - like the first same-sex marriage people - to being the first person on the English steps to get a GRC under the system. And I've waited for that. But I practice under my female name. I pay my taxes under my old gender.

Goes on to note - only has one tax number and pays them perfectly happily.

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