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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

31 Jan 15:15 Women & Equalities Committee - Scottish GRR Bill

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GreenUp · 30/01/2023 16:17

Tomorrow 31st Jan at 15:15 the UK Government's Women and Equalities Committee are holding an evidence gathering session in relation to the Scottish GRR Bill. We can watch on Parliament TV live.

The witnesses are:
Naomi Cunningham Barrister and member of legal feminist
Dr Michael Foran, Public Law lecturer at Glasgow University.
Lord Charlie Falconer Barrister
Robin White Barrister

committees.parliament.uk/event/17258/formal-meeting-oral-evidence-session/

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BeBraveLittlePenguin · 31/01/2023 15:55

I had the video minimised. Clicked to see which bloke was speaking now.
Oh boy.

DFSsale · 31/01/2023 15:57

Now Nokes and RMW are having a dig at the EHRC, specifically Baroness Kishwer.

MrsJamin · 31/01/2023 15:58

BeBraveLittlePenguin · 31/01/2023 15:55

I had the video minimised. Clicked to see which bloke was speaking now.
Oh boy.

Same! Not heard that voice before... wow.

Needmoresleep · 31/01/2023 16:01

Pity the Committee has lost the very sound Jackie Doyle-Price. She has been constructive since before Boris when she was responsible, as a junior minister, for teenage mental health. She had some clear opposing views the last time the Committee reported on this issue.

SamphiretheTervosaurReturneth · 31/01/2023 16:04

Is that Nokes being so bloody dismissive to Caroline and utterly silent when it is Robin speaking?

SamphiretheTervosaurReturneth · 31/01/2023 16:07

Caroline - Naomi

Sorry she really annoyed me!

Lord Falconer is good! She hasn't squeaked whilst he is speaking either!

SamphiretheTervosaurReturneth · 31/01/2023 16:08

Ooh! Cancel that. He veered a little at the end of that speech!

DFSsale · 31/01/2023 16:08

I’m loving Helen Joyce’s face. She’s sat behind Falcenor and looks like she wants to slap him 🤣

SamphiretheTervosaurReturneth · 31/01/2023 16:10

Michael Foran is blisteringly sensible there too! Wonderful man... all legalese.

Even with Noakes looking bored as all go tot hell!

BeBraveLittlePenguin · 31/01/2023 16:11

Maya just outright laughing now Grin

GreenUp · 31/01/2023 16:13

Noakes is so rude and dismissive to Naomi. It's disgusting how biased this panel is.

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ArabellaScott · 31/01/2023 16:17

thanks for updates. I find watching Caroline Nokes do anything is really not good for my health.

DFSsale · 31/01/2023 16:22

Coburn asking a good question: are we in this mess because of the laws and their interaction/operation between the GRA and the EA?

yes we fucking are. The law is a mess

DFSsale · 31/01/2023 16:24

Ah the first mention of Section 28. Does anyone have a line?

ArabellaScott · 31/01/2023 16:25

Are we doing lines? Is this instead of shots? I mean, it's Tuesday, but okay.

DFSsale · 31/01/2023 16:27

RMW is able to identify as two sexes in the tax system and other authorities? What a mess. People shouldn’t be able to do that.

FOJN · 31/01/2023 16:27

Why doesn't RMW have a GRC? They've been availability since 2004.

DFSsale · 31/01/2023 16:27

ArabellaScott · 31/01/2023 16:25

Are we doing lines? Is this instead of shots? I mean, it's Tuesday, but okay.

🤣 Bingo lines!

FOJN · 31/01/2023 16:30

False declaration, provable how exactly? Are they really as thick as they seem. HJ and MF looked exasperated with this idiocy of it.

ArabellaScott · 31/01/2023 16:31

DFSsale · 31/01/2023 16:27

🤣 Bingo lines!

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IwantToRetire · 31/01/2023 16:33

Why would anyone want to slap Faulkner? He is the only person so far (while I've been watching) who is standing up for single sex spaces.

The implications seems to be that by having self id there will then be so many "legal" women that they will out argue those operating single sex spaces, as these sad little groups dont have the intelligence to do it.

That Michael is a real weasel.

So to summarise this bill is as much about trying to get rid of single sex exemptions, because they are cruel to trans woman and too difficult for silly women to operate.

Love the way Faulknet keeps telling Michael he is wrong (mabye this is the problem Scottish University Lecturers talking absolute bullshit).

SamphiretheTervosaurReturneth · 31/01/2023 16:33

Aaaaargh! STUPID man!

NicolaSturgeonsSOGIbottom · 31/01/2023 16:43

FOJN · 31/01/2023 16:27

Why doesn't RMW have a GRC? They've been availability since 2004.

And why did I get a deletion upthread for describing RMW as 4 letter word beginning with an M if RMW is legally a 4 letter word beginning with an M?

IwantToRetire · 31/01/2023 16:44

Oh dear have just seen that Naomi Cunningham is going to represent IamSarah.

Hope she gets a bit more back bone and less on the one hand, on the other.

I wonder if she was the one who failed to notice that the Lady Haldane ruling made specific reference to the single sex exemptions still being in place.

Very depressing. Just shows once it gets into the hands of "legal experts" we lose any sense of real life, and it becomes about winning a war of words.

Tinysoxxx · 31/01/2023 16:47

Why is it suspended just when someone was asking a sensible question?

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