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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

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Nicedayout22 · 30/01/2023 07:55

About 7.50, former governor of the Scottish women's prison : treat yourself to a listen!! Then a weasel MSP

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Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 16:50

This is what she will be remembered for!

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lanadelgrey · 30/01/2023 16:55

Getting close to PM, haven’t checked to see if Evan Davis is presenting

Ryder68 · 30/01/2023 17:04

The woman formally known as the First Minister? 😁

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 17:05

@Ryder68 is that a happy face i see? We can but hope it comes to pass

IcakethereforeIam · 30/01/2023 17:07

Surely it's, the uterus haver, formerly known as woman, formerly known as First Minister!

Nicedayout22 · 30/01/2023 17:08

ResisterRex · 30/01/2023 13:57

ITV News ask the FM if TWAW. And if WAW. It's amusing:

twitter.com/peteradamsmith/status/1620051699900755970?s=46&t=iDbnGOXGJGenX6r8IKrxfA

Love that interview 🤣🤣I honestly thought she was going to stick the landing....then splat🤣🤣 amazing what a journalist asking obvious logic follow up questions can do to test an argument 👍😁

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Ryder68 · 30/01/2023 17:10

IcakethereforeIam · 30/01/2023 17:07

Surely it's, the uterus haver, formerly known as woman, formerly known as First Minister!

Of course! 😆

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 17:10

IcakethereforeIam · 30/01/2023 17:07

Surely it's, the uterus haver, formerly known as woman, formerly known as First Minister!

Ooh yes that's better

Nicedayout22 · 30/01/2023 17:13

Nicedayout22 · 30/01/2023 17:08

Love that interview 🤣🤣I honestly thought she was going to stick the landing....then splat🤣🤣 amazing what a journalist asking obvious logic follow up questions can do to test an argument 👍😁

Sorry,meant SHE honestly thought she was going to stick the landing ( long day at work,sorry!)

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ResisterRex · 30/01/2023 17:18

Alex Massie:

Trans prisoner fiasco is down to Sturgeon — there’s no one else to blame

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e8843676-a0b5-11ed-befb-a61c39e55892?shareToken=a3916db7d7990a3e63407cb3e3593fed

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 17:22

ResisterRex · 30/01/2023 17:18

Alex Massie:

Trans prisoner fiasco is down to Sturgeon — there’s no one else to blame

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e8843676-a0b5-11ed-befb-a61c39e55892?shareToken=a3916db7d7990a3e63407cb3e3593fed

It is crucial to understand that the prison service has effectively operated on a self-ID basis for years. In this respect, the government’s gender recognition reforms largely bring the law into line with current practice. To see the future, then, you need only look at the prison service now.

How did we get here? In part, because the government contracted out its own responsibilities. Prisons were a gateway. According to James Morton of the Scottish Trans Alliance: “We strategised that by working intensively with the Scottish Prison Service to support them to include women as women on a self-declaration basis within very challenging circumstances, we would be able to ensure that all other public services should be able to do likewise”. I imagine he may regret writing that now; I hope he regrets using women prisoners as lab-rats.

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 17:22

all above from article

IcakethereforeIam · 30/01/2023 17:27

This is the policy that shops, gyms, leisure centres, hospitals, schools, universities and all the rest are still following. You let one man in, you let them all in, including the voyeurs, the flashers, the paedophiles and the rapists. Not just the ones who say they 'only want to pee'.

Has that been trademarked yet?

ResisterRex · 30/01/2023 17:34

JKR on that car crash interview

twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1620107934364745728?s=46&t=IxsFoX8wlbRAUu7P11ff6Q

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 17:42

ResisterRex · 30/01/2023 17:34

I feel like I bow now down at her feet

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Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 17:43

Should bow down!

Ryder68 · 30/01/2023 18:26

No, @Boiledbeetle bows to no one! your many both enlightening and humorous posts on this and related subjects are pure gold.

Yes JKR is fab, but so are you! 🐞

IcakethereforeIam · 30/01/2023 18:27

A(wo)men!

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 18:28

@Ryder68 😊thank you. X

Tallisker · 30/01/2023 19:03

Blimey The Times are really hammering it home, aren't they?

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 19:08

Tallisker · 30/01/2023 19:03

Blimey The Times are really hammering it home, aren't they?

At least Adam Graham can't currently hammer it home! At least not with a woman!

Tallisker · 30/01/2023 19:15

Boiled 🤣

FigRollsAlly · 30/01/2023 20:06

IcakethereforeIam · 30/01/2023 17:27

This is the policy that shops, gyms, leisure centres, hospitals, schools, universities and all the rest are still following. You let one man in, you let them all in, including the voyeurs, the flashers, the paedophiles and the rapists. Not just the ones who say they 'only want to pee'.

Has that been trademarked yet?

This is such an important point and I hope women will now be listened to properly when they make it.

MyView2 · 30/01/2023 20:51

MoirasSaggyBundles · 30/01/2023 15:00

That clip has been given the State Media's usual droll treatment.

Watching that reminds me of Karen Dunbar as a teacher :)

ScrollingLeaves · 30/01/2023 23:23

lifelongrest · Today 13:03
That interview made me furious. They are deliberately ignoring how prevalent and unreported male sexual violence is. You can’t have a ‘risk assessment’ as most men who sexually assault women never face justice. Most crimes are unreported, if reported not charged, if charged not prosecuted, if prosecuted not convicted. We all know this. A justice secretary should know this.

And it’s not just predatory men women are assaulted by. It’s also opportunistic men.

The move from sex segregation creates opportunity.

It’s simply not true that you can keep men who will assault women out of prison by looking at those convicted of a sex crime. It’s simply not true.

The fact we just can’t know which men will assault is why we have sex segregated spaces

This is all so true.

The other illogical thing I wondered is why if it is a good idea to house transwomen with women on the grounds that the transwomen are too vulnerable in the men’s prison,, why not non- violent gay men who are vulnerable too?