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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Andrew Burns AKA Tiffany Scott

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Signalbox · 28/01/2023 11:30

Wtf is going on? Another violent man being moved to a women's prison in Scotland. A man so violent they can't even take him to court and NHS staff refuse to treat him.

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/new-trans-prisoner-storm-looms-29069314

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mrshoho · 28/01/2023 23:04

Waitwhat23 · 28/01/2023 23:02

I'm normally meticulous about providing links and evidence in response to derailers/sealioners etc, mainly for the benefit of the many lurkers but you know what? The last question is so ridiculous that I just can't be arsed. Dipping into my stash for this amusing visual

😁😆😅🤣

Signalbox · 28/01/2023 23:05

BlessedKali · 28/01/2023 22:59

PLEASE DO ALLOW IT TO BE DERAILED BY ARGUING WITH A TEENAGER. Dont feed them and they go away.

We all know the answers.

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littlbrowndog · 28/01/2023 23:07

I was actually wondering if that was a SNP. pr person just trying to be helpful amongst the bigots raciest and homophobics that are on this board 🍸🍸

Waitwhat23 · 28/01/2023 23:08

I promise I'll behave after this one

Andrew Burns AKA Tiffany Scott
littlbrowndog · 28/01/2023 23:08

Waitwhat23 · 28/01/2023 23:08

I promise I'll behave after this one

All them children 👊

FactsAreNotMean · 28/01/2023 23:10

Idwtlotpam · 28/01/2023 22:53

Please explain how a fully transitioned teans woman is biologically different from someone born female.

I'm now convinced you're just on a wind up, but I'll answer anyway in case anyone genuinely wonders...

These males who are demanding to be put in female prisons are not "fully transitioned". They're still fully intact, fully functioning, penis possessing, males. Look at the pictures of "Isla Graham" in the charming pink leggings taken outside court. Visible Penis. It is unlikely that Andrew Burns has undergone significant surgery given that they are in prison and are so extremely violent that it takes a squad of wardens to transport them anywhere - and so called sex change surgeries are not currently performed in Scotland so he'd have had to be transported to England for it.

But,do you really believe that transition turns a male in to a female? Really?

Even at the extremes of transition, they are not female. They have an inverted penis (or a section of colon, depending on surgical choice). They do not have a vulva, a vagina, a uterus, a cervix, ovaries, fallopian tubes, female DNA, female musculature, female hormone levels, female lung capacity, female pelvis shape, female chromosomes... And the vast majority of transwomen have not had this surgery. Most have no hormonal or surgical intervention whatsoever.

So actually, why don't you explain a) what you define as a fully transitioned trans woman, b) why you believe that Andrew Burns is one and c)why you believe they are the same as a biological female.

Signalbox · 28/01/2023 23:11

Waitwhat23 · 28/01/2023 23:08

I promise I'll behave after this one

I love that photo. The look on that woman's face is just perfect.

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TheClogLady · 28/01/2023 23:12

Idwtlotpam · 28/01/2023 22:33

1, please tell me where you've seen evidence that the acts of violence committed by this person haven't also been committed by any women currently in the Scottish prison system?

  1. Incorrect. Educate yourself on gender reassignment processes.
  2. See above.
  1. No, YOU provide evidence that there is a biologically female woman currently incarcerated in the Scottish system who HAS GOT the exact same violent record as this male offender! it’s not logically possible for me to provide evidence of something that hasn’t happened, you big dafty 😃
  2. A man who has altered his appearance via hormonal and surgical procedures is a man who has altered his appearance via hormonal and surgical alterations. A flayed and inverted penis is not a vagina, they are two different organs - you can’t turn a penis into a vagina just like you can’t turn a lung into a kidney. Besides, transgender people are not obligated to have any hormonal or surgical interventions in life or in law, so you sound a bit ‘truscum’ as the transactivists are wont to say.

Recognising a mammal’s sex is just an observation, it’s not a value judgement.

I have a male dog and female dog of the same breed. The male is significantly bigger, faster and stronger than the female.
Cutting his nuts off hasn’t made him shrink nor made him slower, nor made him weaker.
He’s 35kg and has very little body fat castration hasn’t changed that.

I can try swapping his red collar for a pink one if you like, but he’s still going to beat my female dog in a race, regardless of what colour he’s wearing.

Humans are mammals too 🤷‍♀️

Tiffany is an adult human male with a history of violence.

Boomboom22 · 28/01/2023 23:14

What makes this even worse is that when women are extremely violent sometimes they are sent to men's prison as they are risk assessed as too dangerous yo ve with the other female prisoners. so wtaf is going on here?

mrshoho · 28/01/2023 23:17

Waitwhat23 · 28/01/2023 23:08

I promise I'll behave after this one

Keep them coming. Thine eyes have seen and all that!

Idwtlotpam · 28/01/2023 23:19

Signalbox · 28/01/2023 23:04

Does "fully transitioned" now just mean changing ones name to Tiffany.

The idea that this man has "transitioned" to the point where he is somehow closer to being female than male is utterly absurd. Honestly, people who believe this have lost their minds.

What would you call someone who has breasts, a vagina and a body full of estrogen if not female?

mrshoho · 28/01/2023 23:21

Boomboom22 · 28/01/2023 23:14

What makes this even worse is that when women are extremely violent sometimes they are sent to men's prison as they are risk assessed as too dangerous yo ve with the other female prisoners. so wtaf is going on here?

What? Wth is going on?

littlbrowndog · 28/01/2023 23:22

Idwtlotpam · 28/01/2023 23:19

What would you call someone who has breasts, a vagina and a body full of estrogen if not female?

Peter or Frank or Bruce.

what names would you choose

Signalbox · 28/01/2023 23:23

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Andrew Burns AKA Tiffany Scott
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littlbrowndog · 28/01/2023 23:24

Stop being a daftie. This violent criminal is a man

Signalbox · 28/01/2023 23:24

littlbrowndog · 28/01/2023 23:22

Peter or Frank or Bruce.

what names would you choose

😂

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FlirtsWithRhinos · 28/01/2023 23:25

Idwtlotpam · 28/01/2023 22:53

Please explain how a fully transitioned teans woman is biologically different from someone born female.

Veery few trans women have even partially transitioned, let alone fully.

But the few who have still biologically have different chromosomes, different skeletons, different endocrine systems, different immune systems, different internal reproductive systems, don't and never have had periods, don't and never have had the possibility of pregnancy, different metabolisms, on average taller and stronger, not just because of their size but relative to a biological female of similar size...

Oh, I'm sorry, did you think a female human is just like a male human except with tits and a fuck-hole? Something you can assemble from parts? No. We are complete, entire beings in our own right.

But that's just a side track, because your question about biology misses the point.

We don't segregate men and women in vulnerable situations, or create female-only protections and opportunities to empower women, simply because we are biologically different. We do this because living with that biology in this society has consequences. The difference between a man - an adult human male - and a woman - an adult human female - is not simply their bodies today, but the whole lives lived, in those bodies, with the capabilities they bring, the experiences they do and do not have, the way others see and treat them and what that in turn leads them to believe about themselves, their place in society and their relationships with their own and the opposite sex. We do it because too often, male bodied people are socialised to believe they are better than women, more real than women, more important than women, and therefore entitled to women's bodies, focus and support. And too often, women are socialised to believe it too.

So even if you could throw a bio-switch and transform a male body into one that was 100% female, you'd still have a person without that experience of being born a female child and growing into a female adult, a person whose life experience up to that point was that of a male.

Idwtlotpam · 28/01/2023 23:25

BlessedKali · 28/01/2023 22:59

PLEASE DO ALLOW IT TO BE DERAILED BY ARGUING WITH A TEENAGER. Dont feed them and they go away.

We all know the answers.

I'm 40.

This is 'mums'net, right?

I'm interested to know...

How you'd feel if this was your child/grandchild?

Whether you think a woman who beat her teenage daughter should be incarcerated alongside young women?

littlbrowndog · 28/01/2023 23:26

And if you were locked up with him you would not be so daft

you would be frightened.

you read what he did. Assaulted nurses. Bit prison guards. Too dangerous to be in court

it took 13 security guards to stop him.

BlessedKali · 28/01/2023 23:27

STOP ARGUING WITH THE DERAILER. THEIR INTENTION IS TO DISTRACT US FROM TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO, EVERYTIME YOU REPLY YOU AREN'T SCHOOLING ANYONE, YOU ARE JUST FEEDING THE TROLL

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Andrew Burns AKA Tiffany Scott
Idwtlotpam · 28/01/2023 23:28

littlbrowndog · 28/01/2023 23:22

Peter or Frank or Bruce.

what names would you choose

What would you call someone who has to take estrogen supplements because their body doesn't produce it?

Waitwhat23 · 28/01/2023 23:28

Yeah, I lied about behaving myself. I've just too many relevant memes!

Andrew Burns AKA Tiffany Scott
littlbrowndog · 28/01/2023 23:29

Aye. You are right. Off to bed to leave the tiresome derailer to chat their mad shite into the wilderness

Signalbox · 28/01/2023 23:29

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