Andrew Burns AKA Tiffany Scott

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Wtf is going on? Another violent man being moved to a women's prison in Scotland. A man so violent they can't even take him to court and NHS staff refuse to treat him.

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/new-trans-prisoner-storm-looms-29069314

Yes, the judiciary refuse to give details of which lobbying groups provide them with training -

www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/open-judicial-training-to-foi-scrutiny-tribunal-urged/5110241.article

Those tra's and the furries descending on Glasgow very soon, need to organise a rota between them, of who will volunteer to babysit tiffany in prison, you know, stop him from attacking other people, maybe even give him a hand to clean his cell. Let the tra's and furries have the responsibility of him, maybe that Robyn that stopped the showing of the womans film the other week, let that do some babysitting shifts of the dangerous psycho! It certainly shouldn't be down to women!

Woah!

pinching that picture for the IPSO thread!

thx!

So irritating. The uproar isn't because women have been rendered unsafe. It is because officials have been caught rendering women unsafe. Argh. These women are still being put in unsafe situations, officially or not. Infuriating.

Actually, you ned to say would NS be ok in sitting by herself in a LOCKED room with him?

Yep

How do they turn a blind eye to this

This was covered on R4 news at 6 today. Sunlight!

This is currently the second most read news story on the BBC website

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64438457

Hospitals in Edinburgh have refused to treat this person! He now comes to Glasgow for his frequent hospital visits. He’s as odious in the flesh as you would expect from the stories about him!

Fuckwits going on about how there have always been sex offenders in women's prisons. Male and female sex offenders are not the same, you utter morons. It's the bloody sex you've been trying to ignore that's the pesky difference. And no not all of us have been waiting for headlines to say men shouldn't be in women's prisons. Argh.

’females are violent sex offenders too’

is such a stupid argument because

a) it’s so rare the TRAs have to go back as far as Rose West and Myra Hindley to find examples (and they both had male co offenders and neither seems to have been violent once incarcerated, as far as I can tell)

and

b) I’d much rather be locked in with Myra the multiple child murderer than 6ft 5 paedo Katie Dolatowski because I know which one I’m more likely to be able to fight off.

The female one.

Obvs.

Is there any good reason why that BBC article omits the face-slashing incident from this inmate’s cv, when that surely helps readers to understand just what kind of violence this person has perpetrated?

I am however loving the photo they chose.

1. There are no equally violent biological female prisoners. Women’s prisons don’t even have the highest security level protocols that exist for men because they aren’t needed.
2. Female is sex, not an identity. It’s a condition of the body, not the mind.
3. That’s a problem for the male prison estate to resolve, not the female estate, because this violent offender is male (aka ‘a man’)

Yes.

It’s not hate to speak the truth

I’d rather be rude than a liar (and I will never be ashamed of prioritising women and girls over violent male offenders).

HTH.

@Idwtlotpam

1/ data doesn't support that. Rates of Male pattern violence does not diminish with transition either.

2/ take a look at the image below. Really?

3/ that's not the responsibility of the women in the women's prisons. Why do women always have to pick up the pieces? Sort it out in the male estate ta.

4/ yes, work closely with a lovely trans person. Who's been exceptionally honest with names etc for dbs and the online searches.

Odfod.

Crikey this chap was quite an early adopter (2017) of the kind of language favoured by many trans activists. Perhaps when he is released the SNP or Scottish Greens might find a place for him as a women's officer. He'd fit right in!

"Scott then called Sheriff Livingston a "fucking transphobe bastard" and a "cunt" as he jailed her for a further year on five charges of assault and one of criminal damage."

www.alloaadvertiser.com/news/15507716.shirtless-prisoner-hurls-abuse-at-sheriff-as-she-is-jailed/

@Idwtlotpam

You should be ashamed of placing the feelings of a violent male predator above the needs of vulnerable women and girls. On a site / space for women.

You lost me at your first point, but I'll ask you, Would you be happy sharing your personal space with him?

1. Statistically there are far fewer; I'm struggling to find Scottish stats but a 2019 FOI showed only 19 "female" prisoners with restricted/category A status in England and Wales, and of course they may not have all been actually female. This is out of approximately 4000. The Scottish women's prison population is approximately 400, which suggests Scotland (if it were to have similar levels of violence) would have approximately 2 category A female prisoners. And there is actually provision for hyper violent women to be housed in the male estate if necessary because the female estate doesn't have the correct facilities - afaik this is unused.
2. Irrelevant.
3. So, we're supposed to be worried that the terrible mental health of this individual may be compromised by being subjected to the presence of violent males, so instead we should compromise the statistically terrible mental health of female prisonrs by subjecting them to the presence of violent males... and don't forget that an extremely high % (80% or thereabouts) of female prisons are past victims of abuse.

When it comes to the desires of violent males, my field of fucks is barren.

1, please tell me where you've seen evidence that the acts of violence committed by this person haven't also been committed by any women currently in the Scottish prison system?

1. Incorrect. Educate yourself on gender reassignment processes.
2. See above.

SEALIONING

1. As far as I’m aware there are no women in Scotland with a life long restrictions order, only the most dangerous prisoners get these.
2. this is the guy who used to insist on being called Lord Almighty. So, he used to identify as god, did we believe that? Why should he believed.
3. I don’t think this guy feels any threat from anyone, he is the threat.

Man with issues? Not a woman's problem..... And please do not conflate sex with gender - it just proves you haven't read the post you are replying to