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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

India Willoughby: I am more of a woman than JK Rowling will ever be

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NotTerfNorCis · 23/01/2023 12:54

India has stated this on Twitter.

Doesn't it tell us a lot about how genderism rests on social stereotypes? How is India 'more of a woman' than someone born female?

twitter.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/1617183552101048321?t=qgFTj7AwwiPi9tSKSyRsYQ&s=19

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MarshaBradyo · 24/01/2023 11:46

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/01/2023 11:44

It doesn’t matter how often the Monitors/India report posts that correctly refer to India’s sex here on Mumsnet, they can’t report what’s in my brain or how I refer to India in real life. You will never control that and I will never concede that. I will abide my MNHQ’s pandering rules for the sake of posting here, but I will not refer to India as “she” ever. I will never refer to any male as she/her ever, either in writing, or in real life.

As the saying goes on Twitter, cope and seethe.

+1

Me too. As this so obviously becomes about male violence and oppression I’m not going along with it. It’s a no.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/01/2023 11:46

Well, the answer to that is neopronouns.
But as soon as someone deviates from standard English pronouns, the words they choose are no longer functioning as pronouns, they're essentially nicknames with added grammatical forms.

Pronouns exist solely to make communication easier and more fluid. If people have to think about them, they're useless.

Yes, exactly. Neopronouns are about as relevant as which flag stickers you put on your pencil case. Not all languages have pronouns.

DialSquare · 24/01/2023 11:50

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Wiccan · 24/01/2023 11:50

Cuppasoupmonster · 24/01/2023 11:18

It’s my right as a man 😂 😂 how unbelievably prescient!

Francis .. " it's symbolic of our fight against oppression"
Reg .. "It's symbolic of his fight against reality "
🤣🤣

Classic.

MsFogi · 24/01/2023 11:51

What a dick!! It's not because someone says something that it's true.
But just in case I am wrong....I am more of a Euromillions winner than whoever won the last mega-jackpot and am available to collect my winnings anytime.

heathspeedwell · 24/01/2023 11:57

As an atheist I don't believe in blasphemy. As someone gender critical I don't believe in gender - therefore misgendering is about as relevant to me as getting someone's star sign wrong.

I understand that some people genuinely believe in horoscopes, but I reserve the right to consider horoscopes to be totally irrelevant. Like gender.

Wiccan · 24/01/2023 12:07

heathspeedwell · 24/01/2023 11:57

As an atheist I don't believe in blasphemy. As someone gender critical I don't believe in gender - therefore misgendering is about as relevant to me as getting someone's star sign wrong.

I understand that some people genuinely believe in horoscopes, but I reserve the right to consider horoscopes to be totally irrelevant. Like gender.

Gender is bad enough don't get me started on horoscopes 😂 had someone at work
" Ooh ooh , I bet you can't guess which star sign I am ?".
Simply did a 360 and walked away, so anyone who thinks I'm going to waste my time with pronouns 🙄

FrancescaContini · 24/01/2023 13:10

heathspeedwell · 24/01/2023 11:57

As an atheist I don't believe in blasphemy. As someone gender critical I don't believe in gender - therefore misgendering is about as relevant to me as getting someone's star sign wrong.

I understand that some people genuinely believe in horoscopes, but I reserve the right to consider horoscopes to be totally irrelevant. Like gender.

Hear hear

GailBlancheViola · 24/01/2023 13:27

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Add me to the list.

I will refer to TW by their name I will NOT refer to them by anything else, I will pretzel my speech in order not to because I am fed up to the back teeth of being coerced to accept a blatant lie and falsehood.

TW like IW have brought this on themselves by their own actions and words and now they can live with it.

Datun · 24/01/2023 13:36

TW like IW have brought this on themselves by their own actions and words and now they can live with it.

Quite. What do people like IW think when they gleefully boast about how they walked miles out of the way at the airport to deliberately enter a woman's toilet, walking past a mixed sex loos the way, in order to do.

HiccupHorrendousHaddock · 24/01/2023 13:37

Wiccan · 24/01/2023 12:07

Gender is bad enough don't get me started on horoscopes 😂 had someone at work
" Ooh ooh , I bet you can't guess which star sign I am ?".
Simply did a 360 and walked away, so anyone who thinks I'm going to waste my time with pronouns 🙄

Hopefully at 180? Because a 360 would be a pirouette.

I wonder if IW identifies as more of a ballerina than Darcy Bussell…

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 24/01/2023 13:42

Iw is correct though, IW is a more 'real' woman than JKR , JKR doesn't nor has ever had the balls to be a 'real' woman

Wiccan · 24/01/2023 13:45

HiccupHorrendousHaddock · 24/01/2023 13:37

Hopefully at 180? Because a 360 would be a pirouette.

I wonder if IW identifies as more of a ballerina than Darcy Bussell…

🤣 didn't even notice was juggling 3 thinks at once 180 would be better. IW is no ballerina any man wearing tights is simply max wall !

Wiccan · 24/01/2023 13:52

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 24/01/2023 13:42

Iw is correct though, IW is a more 'real' woman than JKR , JKR doesn't nor has ever had the balls to be a 'real' woman

Not the point here though . JKR is a women end of .

SidewaysOtter · 24/01/2023 14:32

It doesn’t matter how often the Monitors/India report posts that correctly refer to India’s sex here on Mumsnet, they can’t report what’s in my brain or how I refer to India in real life. You will never control that and I will never concede that. I will abide my MNHQ’s pandering rules for the sake of posting here, but I will not refer to India as “she” ever. I will never refer to any male as she/her ever, either in writing, or in real life.

Oh god, yes. With bells on. And glitter, there's always glitter*.

(*But not near a uterus. Think of the chafing 😳 )

<waves to the monitors>

UrsulaPandress · 24/01/2023 14:51

@BaronessEllarawrosaurus

No comprende?

DialSquare · 24/01/2023 15:01

I believe Baroness was being sarcastic.

bellinisurge · 24/01/2023 15:01

There IS a goddess. Mark Hamill's like is still there.
#MayTheForceBeWithYou

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SweetSenorita · 24/01/2023 15:17

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SweetSenorita · 24/01/2023 15:33

MillicentTrilbyHiggins · 23/01/2023 13:48

I'm wearing a dress and not menstruating. So I'm your opposite. Together do we make a man and a woman?

I'm neither wearing a frock nor menstruating.

Where do I fit? Hint: I was female at birth and, of course, still am.

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 24/01/2023 15:48

Just so there is no doubt yes I was being sarcastic. If I say what I really think I'd be deleted. You must admit though IW is good for a laugh, and I don't mean with.

ArcaneWireless · 24/01/2023 15:52

Pink glittery uterus and matching earrings.

if ours aren’t jazzy enough….

India Willoughby: I am more of a woman than JK Rowling will ever be
India Willoughby: I am more of a woman than JK Rowling will ever be
Boiledbeetle · 24/01/2023 16:00

ArcaneWireless · 24/01/2023 15:52

Pink glittery uterus and matching earrings.

if ours aren’t jazzy enough….

Please tell me that's a pink glittery merkin (no, not the earrings) they wouldn't cover much!

ArcaneWireless · 24/01/2023 16:18

If you want your Va jazzled then I think it would cut the mustard beetle 😉

I’m sure that those who insist they are real and that will be glad to know that these items can be bought from a catalogue too. Or some website or something.

WallaceinAnderland · 24/01/2023 16:22

It must be a kind of hell, screaming into the void at people every day that you are a woman when they know you are not and deep down you do too.

I get the same sense. So much bitterness.

Why not just be happy with yourself, accept the things you can't change. Stop bullying, stop being racist and homophobic, stop targetting individuals and go live a happy life.