Nick Timothy in the Telegraph on the GRR

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He was Joint Chief of Staff under Theresa May:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/01/22/britain-becoming-sick-trans-debate-facts-can-cure/

"The legislation is part of a trend in which transgenderism and gender fluidity are normalised and made mainstream in culture. This is the kind of cultural context in which charities like Mermaids and even the NHS through its Tavistock clinic helped young people to make irreversible decisions to change their bodiess_. It is how governing bodies allow female sports to be ruined by trans athletes. It is how the BBC website joyfully writes up stories about children becoming drag queens, and cross-dressing men are invited to read to primary school pupils in schools and libraries.

It is how nobody stops to ask how many such men are moved to act in these ways through their own sexual desire. Autogynephilia, the feeling of sexual arousal some men feel as they pretend to be women, is according to some researchers behind many or even most cases of gender dysphoria among those born as men. It is legitimate to ask whether non-consenting women ought to be participants in such sexual fantasies."

Apologies, but I can't find my glasses and can only make out a few words. Would someone please tell me what comes after "Autogynephilia, the feeling of sexual arousal ..." as I'm not sure I can read the rest of the sentence. Thanks for clearing this up!

Autogynephilia, the feeling of sexual arousal some men feel as they pretend to be women, is according to some researchers behind many or even most cases of gender dysphoria among those born as men.

any better? HTH😉👍

Reminds me that this is a very good book on the topic:

Men Trapped in Men's Bodies: Narratives of Autogynephilic Transsexualism (Focus on Sexuality Research) amzn.eu/d/dlTQEIt
amzn.eu/d/dlTQEIt

It's a shame it's so expensive. But I suspect you may be able to track it down second hand or in a library.

God I spend hours without internet and this happens. I must lose internet more often I think.

Cannot believe a few weeks ago I got told off for virtually nothing and now we can openly state

Autogynephilia, the feeling of sexual arousal some men feel as they pretend to be women, is according to some researchers behind many or even most cases of gender dysphoria among those born as men

How things change so quickly.
Man I am happy this morning.

"The wheels on the bus are falling off"🎶

I’d really like to discuss this aspect. How is it that AGP seems to manifest itself so strongly in later life in men? We see it on the trans widows threads. Is it they need to be out in public to get their sexual thrills?

Ta, Nicedayout22 I thought the quote read "Autogynephilia, the feeling of sexual arousal some men feel as they pretend to be women, is according to some researchers behind many or even most cases of gender dysphoria among those born as men. It is legitimate to ask whether non-consenting women ought to be participants in such sexual fantasies." but wasn't sure.

and for all, with thanks.

Is it they need to be out in public to get their sexual thrills?

It seems that the usual pattern with AGP men is that they start off in private then move into public spaces while “dressed” and then start full time laydeeing and saying they are women.

The need to keep escalating is interesting. I guess the trans rights movement constitutes the next stage of escalation in many cases.

Not a problem, accuracy is important: shall I check again to be sure?

Autogynephilia, the feeling of sexual arousal some men feel as they pretend to be women, is according to some researchers behind many or even most cases of gender dysphoria among those born as men.

No,that looks accurate...in quoting,of course.

The age being middle aged and the apparent need to escalate would seem to point to male pattern sexual offending. Such offending starts off behind closed doors. Boundaries are tested. The male gets bolder and bolder. What normal society deems OK and not OK behaviour in public gets further and further from their mind, and/or they know what's OK and what's not OK. The thrill comes from more and more pushing of the boundaries.

Hence the Stonewall trans umbrella is a public wet dream come true for these males. These autogynephilic males. Autogynephiles. Who are male.

Until you find your glasses...

Autogynephilia, the feeling of sexual arousal some men feel as they pretend to be women, is according to some researchers behind many or even most cases of gender dysphoria among those born as men. It is legitimate to ask whether non-consenting women ought to be participants in such sexual fantasies."

Every single day the Telegraph is covering this issue from different angles and with different voices, but all saying the same thing in essence, that this has gone way too far and all are covering the danger to women it presents - the trans movement has been hijacked by men that hate women, and if we needed further proof we only need to look at the photos of the protest which featured actual MPs in Scotland supporting them as the placards called for women to be 'eaten' and 'decapitated'

In just one photo, that did our job for us.

As a country we will not be silenced any longer. Back when Nick was in the government this was all still new and everyone that was anyone in government was cheerleading trans, but it has taken such a dark and twisted turn most politicians have worken up to the dangerous ideology for what it is, everyone that is except for the Labour party - particularly the male LP backbenchers whom treated Rosie Duffield with utter contempt again in parliament. I have the utmost respect for that woman, when this is all over she should be honoured for her bravery and courage to speak up for us.

Still here, still saying

Autogynephilia, the feeling of sexual arousal some men feel as they pretend to be women, is according to some researchers behind many or even most cases of gender dysphoria among those born as men.

Who, when death comes for them, as it comes for us all, will also die as men.

Fiona Hill was the other Joint Head of no10. SFAIK she's only done one interview since leaving (with the Spectator) and is another piece of the puzzle so far as Tories and self-ID goes.

I’m absolutely thrilled about this, it’s such great news.

Surely this is being talked about because of the constitutional crisis caused by the Scottish trans law, there will be a need to get people on board with the U.K. government’s stance on it. It wasn’t such a grave political issue previously but this has caused a need to become very clear about the facts of the debate.

Thank goodness that this is the issue picked by the Scottish and U.K. parliaments to clash on - there will have to be totally open debate with evidence.

Fingers crossed for all of us. I almost dare to feel hopeful.

Plus this thread is still up! That is certainly cause for celebration. Big hugs to you all, you wonderful, brave women.

I know this will never reach the eyes of the Righteous ostriches (Bad Media! etc), but still WOW that it's there in black-and-white in a mainstream newspaper!

I can't tell you all how DELIGHTED I am to see this issue being written about in the mainstream press. Women have been vilified for pointing out that many of these adult men who suddenly come out as 'trans' are in fact sexual deviants who get a thrill from dressing as women and are not trans at all. But god forbid anyone who tries to point out the difference.

So thank you Nick Timothy! Better late than never. The lid needs to be blown off all this stuff so that it's not just a small number of people who know about it. Everyone needs to know that there is a difference between the vanishingly small number of genuinely trans people and all the other bandwagon-jumpers who are benefiting from pro-trans changes to our laws and social norms. And many of them are deviants, perverts and sex offenders.

I'm pleasantly surprised by this piece - he actually gets it. Like everyone else, I love the autogynephilia para but I'm really impressed by the succinctness and clarity of the whole piece. This sentence beautifully sums up the irony of trans activists claiming they don't pose a threat to women, while threatening women: "Activists threatening feminists with violence and pro-trans MPs intimidating female MPs in Parliament make their critics’ case for them."

Wish he'd been this on the ball while working for Theresa May.

Just loving this thread and the wims on it explaining the 'love' that dare not speak its name. It's a common issue among those middle-aged gender confused men trying to remove the privacy, dignity and safety of female people.

RoyalCorgi · Today 10:07

I'm pleasantly surprised by this piece - he actually gets it.

Yes, this is very good, as well as the fact that this festering pile of ordure is now in the open. I bet that most of us are just waiting for the storm of outrage, but with everything else, the vile threats, the genie will be very difficult to put back in the bottle.

Not only is the article brilliant but the comments below are on fire! So many commentators speaking remarkably knowledgeably about feminism, the law, women's rights, child safeguarding and even aspects of sexual fetish!

This is the week to write to our MPs to reinforce that they need to take strong action to resolve this mess.

@IcakedefargeIam

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I’ve got a paper copy / it’s brilliant and nails the whole debate. I’ll try posting excerpts fo it.

Another section

Reference to sport and the bbc too